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scotts33

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MOTIV
« on: December 14, 2008, 09:41:14 PM »
I am going to get a new MOTIV ball but not sure if it will be the TX-1 or SX-1.  Depends on what they send to my driller.  He bought a case and should see them mid to end of this week.  

So, my question is copied from charlest's post in mainzer's GX-1 topic.  I and many others I believe would like to know.

I am curious about its traits:

What type of ball is it?
What amount of oil does it handle?
What type of ball reaction does it have with a "normal" or average drilling?
How does it take to surface changes?
Does it stay flippy if polished?
Does it become arc-like if sanded or does it stay flippy?
How reliable is the coverstock?
Does it take to rejuvenation"
How fast does it absorb oil?
Does it still hook strongly if it doesn't absorb oil?
How flexible is the core?
Is it low RG or high RG?
How well does the cover and the core match up?
Does it match up for high rev bowlers OR low rev bowlers?
etc.


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Re: MOTIV
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2008, 06:17:46 AM »
I seen my pro shop guy throwing the TX-1 and the ball was very smooth while covering a lot of lane.  More information can be found at www.motivbowling.com. Hope this will help.
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Re: MOTIV
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2008, 06:21:59 AM »
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I seen my pro shop guy throwing the TX-1 and the ball was very smooth while covering a lot of lane. More information can be found at www.motivbowling.com. Hope this will help.  


I've seen the website.  I sent an e-mail to Motive/Techline about this topic.  Maybe someone from the company will come on this site and answer some questions and hopefully if they do everyone will be civil and not run off another manufacturer's spokesperson who can offer up some insite to the equipment.  
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Re: MOTIV
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2008, 10:08:21 AM »
I'm drilling up a SX-1 today.  I'll let you know how it goes.  I'm in the Muskegon area where a number of guys have thrown this ball and it's reported to have a pretty tunable coverstock.  I saw a guy with the front nine last Tuesday the first game, and the front six the second game.  Coverstock was OOB finish.

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scotts33

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Re: MOTIV
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2008, 10:17:10 AM »
So, you guys that have rolled both the SX-1 and TX-1.  Am I right in assuming the TX-1 is more for a THS less hooking ball.....play more up the boards and the SX-1 is for more oil and more hooking thru the lane?  


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Re: MOTIV
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2008, 11:13:18 PM »
Doesnt ship until after the new year tho.
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Re: MOTIV
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2008, 03:51:50 PM »
Availability: NEW! COMING DECEMBER 30TH
Product Code: MOT001


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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2008, 06:53:34 AM »
Update on Motiv.  My driller got a case in Sat. and drilled two one for a customer and one for himself both the black SX-1's.  He was very impresssed with coverstock and quality of the balls.

I called Motiv this morning to get an idea of the difference between the two balls SX-1 vs. TX-1.  They said the SX-1 the black one is for drier conditions.  

I'll be getting one of them drilled this afternoon and report back.

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Re: MOTIV
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2008, 07:12:29 AM »
Is it even possible to put out a bad piece of equipment nowadays?  What is this ball going to do that the other 500 can't?   Good luck though.....
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Re: MOTIV
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2008, 07:35:45 AM »
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Is it even possible to put out a bad piece of equipment nowadays? What is this ball going to do that the other 500 can't? Good luck though.....
 


I think you can ask that of any ball these days.  The one issue, I like is that they are made in the USA.  Since, they are symmetric I also like that.  

Why don't we all use Black Beauties?  
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Re: MOTIV
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2008, 10:24:20 AM »
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I called Motiv this morning to get an idea of the difference between the two balls SX-1 vs. TX-1. They said the SX-1 the black one is for drier conditions.


Scott,

Well that is different than most other companies.  They have the hook potential rating higher for the black one and the price is higher also.  Usually a ball for drier lane conditions is less than one for oil.


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Re: MOTIV
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2008, 10:34:29 AM »
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I called Motiv this morning to get an idea of the difference between the two balls SX-1 vs. TX-1. They said the SX-1 the black one is for drier conditions.
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Scott,

Well that is different than most other companies. They have the hook potential rating higher for the black one and the price is higher also. Usually a ball for drier lane conditions is less than one for oil.

 


Gary,

I looked at the website and asked cuz I wanted to know the difference between the two.  So, I figure the SX-1 black will go a bit longer and layoff a bit on the backend depending on your stats. layout, surface and lane condition bowled on.  TX-1 blue will get a lil less length be a lil milder covering less boards probably more arcy and driver harder on backend again depending on your stats. layout, surface and lane condition bowled on.  This is just a guess either way I really doubt they are weak-weak balls.  Going to give them a shot as I have been looking for something and they are made in MI.

TX-1 Blue 15 lb. 2.54 .052
Hook  37
Length  26
Drive Energy  36

SX-1 Black 15 lb. 2.47 .047
Hook  41
Length  28
Drive Energy  30
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Re: MOTIV
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2008, 01:33:38 PM »
Scott,

Looking forward to your impressions after you get a chance to try yours.


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Re: MOTIV
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2008, 03:35:56 PM »
I've seen a request to have someone from the company to jump into the discussion, so I'll give you some information that should help.  I'm the marketing director for MOTIV (but don't hold that against me).

First, when we developed our hook potential rating, we had the ball dynamics in mind (RG,diff, etc.).  So, with the same finish on the balls, the SX1 will be more aggressive because of the core design. It's not rocket science to know that you guys can tune the cover where you need it to be.

Out of the box, the SX1 finish is better for medium oil and the TX1 finish for medium-heavy.  We are hearing the best results from bowlers that put a 1000 or 2000 abralon finish on the SX1.

Our reactive urethane Motivator-X cover is really durable and has a lower oil absorption rate.  You won't get a massive jump on the backend, but a smoother reaction.  The lower oil absorption rate also gives you extended ball reaction life and better consistency from game to game.    

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Re: MOTIV
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2008, 03:41:51 PM »
Thanks for responding scott.
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