Author Topic: 2 handers bowling well in US Open (Read 2621 times)

Track900 · « **on:** February 16, 2005, 07:00:25 AM »

Im sure everyone knows that Osku Palerma uses both hands, as he was on the TV show last year in the US Open, after 12 games of B and C bowling he is in 13th. But I bet few have heard of Brian Valenta. Currently he is in 6th place. He to uses both hands similar to Osku,and they both are very smooth with TONS of power, the main difference is Valenta shoots his spares including 10 pins 2 handed. Anyway Valenta is an unbelievable talent he bowls college at Lindenwood University near St.Louis, I have had the pleasure of watching him this past year in 3 different college tournaments and WOW!!!! I have seen him play coast to coast one day and the 2 board the next day. Wouldnt be something for those 2 to make the telecast!!!!! Is 2 handed the new wave of the future?

? Only time will tell!!!!

Bluff · « **Reply #1 on:** February 16, 2005, 03:33:08 PM »

He got 3rd in Mini last week. I think he come all the way for those 2 events. I would like to see him on TV

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oooink · « **Reply #2 on:** February 16, 2005, 03:37:33 PM »

Does anyone have any vids of him bowling? I havent seen him bowl yet but I have heard a lot about it. It would be interesting to see.

Bluff · « **Reply #3 on:** February 16, 2005, 03:55:08 PM »

He's ball rev pretty Good I say. He can go straight and hook it.
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Walking E · « **Reply #4 on:** February 16, 2005, 03:57:04 PM »

Man, that is so ugly to watch! It's like watching a wrong-foot bowler on TV!

Even worse, they can kick my tail doing it! D'oh!
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LuckyLefty · « **Reply #5 on:** February 16, 2005, 05:12:07 PM »

I've posted it here many a time in the past.

Two handed bowling is the wave of the future.

If left alone when they start at 3 or 4 kids will gravitate to this on their own.

How do I know because my son did it! At age 4 when he decided he wanted a heavier ball. Just before age 5 he shot 192 with a 10 pound plastic. I never talked to him about it. Was averaging about 110 or 115 in Yaba at age 5 1/2 or 6 and throwing like this. Some nice lady coaching Yaba wouldn't let him throw like this she made him throw one hand like she did booking her 156! I lost my proverbial Irish when I found out about it as I never coached him and just let him do what was natural for him!

He went from about 12 mph and about 17 revs to 3 revs and a cloud of dust.

Subsequent to seeing this I saw a 13 year old make about $100,000 over two years in SouthFlorida throwing two handed. If he missed right he hit it harder with his left hand and hooked it more. If he pulled it he decreased the revs with his left hand and went almost straight.

Much like the two handed backend in tennis this method allows one to adjust at the last second via the push of the extra hand.

This 5'11" little stringbean at 125 I watched whip a 6 foot 280 pound strong man with a 16 inch forearm in the finals of one tourney by throwing about a 247 against the strongmans 217. While he had one foot of area at the arrows and almost 2 feet at the breakpoint. Muscle man had about a board and a half at the arrows.

Two hands ARE better than one. Logic tells us this but we want to look pretty so we keep doing it the way we do it! The two handed backhand in tennis proved the wisdom of this.

REgards,

LUckylefty

Bluff · « **Reply #6 on:** February 16, 2005, 05:17:52 PM »

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I've posted it here many a time in the past.

Two handed bowling is the wave of the future.

If left alone when they start at 3 or 4 kids will gravitate to this on their own.

How do I know because my son did it! At age 4 when he decided he wanted a heavier ball. Just before age 5 he shot 192 with a 10 pound plastic. I never talked to him about it. Was averaging about 110 or 115 in Yaba at age 5 1/2 or 6 and throwing like this. Some nice lady coaching Yaba wouldn't let him throw like this she made him throw one hand like she did booking her 156! I lost my proverbial Irish when I found out about it as I never coached him and just let him do what was natural for him!

He went from about 12 mph and about 17 revs to 3 revs and a cloud of dust.

Subsequent to seeing this I saw a 13 year old make about $100,000 over two years in SouthFlorida throwing two handed. If he missed right he hit it harder with his left hand and hooked it more. If he pulled it he decreased the revs with his left hand and went almost straight.

Much like the two handed backend in tennis this method allows one to adjust at the last second via the push of the extra hand.

This 5'11" little stringbean at 125 I watched whip a 6 foot 280 pound strong man with a 16 inch forearm in the finals of one tourney by throwing about a 247 against the strongmans 217. While he had one foot of area at the arrows and almost 2 feet at the breakpoint. Muscle man had about a board and a half at the arrows.

Two hands ARE better than one. Logic tells us this but we want to look pretty so we keep doing it the way we do it! The two handed backhand in tennis proved the wisdom of this.

REgards,

LUckylefty

Yup you post it year ago hehehe
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a_ak57 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 16, 2005, 05:20:23 PM »

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Two hands ARE better than one. Logic tells us this but we want to look pretty so we keep doing it the way we do it! The two handed backhand in tennis proved the wisdom of this.

REgards,

LUckylefty

Very well said, lefty, and INCREDIBLY true. People think of 2 handed bowling as disgusting, but maybe that's because they are getting whooped by the people doing it?
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Walking E · « **Reply #8 on:** February 16, 2005, 05:28:46 PM »

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Very well said, lefty, and INCREDIBLY true. People think of 2 handed bowling as disgusting, but maybe that's because they are getting whooped by the people doing it?
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Not in my case - I've never bowled against a two-hander. I just think it looks too amateurish. Then again, I felt the same way when I saw the no-thumb bowlers like Mike Miller and Bob Vespi on TV. I mean, most bowlers who were taught to bowl one-handed and with a thumb will only do these other styles to goof off, so it looks like a goof-off way of doing things to me.

So if ABC requires a differentiation between RIGHT and LEFT book and sheet averages, will there be a new classification for TWO-HANDED?

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axeweldr · « **Reply #9 on:** February 16, 2005, 05:32:54 PM »

Bob Vespi did use his thumb. He was double jointed, so he would dislocate his thumb, when he set up in the ball. I remember the announcers talking about him, and showing a close up of his hand cupping the ball. Just thought I would clear the air on the one.

John

Walking E · « **Reply #10 on:** February 16, 2005, 05:35:46 PM »

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Bob Vespi did use his thumb. He was double jointed, so he would dislocate his thumb, when he set up in the ball. I remember the announcers talking about him, and showing a close up of his hand cupping the ball. Just thought I would clear the air on the one.

John

Oops - my mistake!

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axeweldr · « **Reply #11 on:** February 16, 2005, 05:38:04 PM »

I guess I am showing my age, or my lack of life. lol

John

Platinum Bowler · « **Reply #12 on:** February 16, 2005, 09:33:10 PM »

Yeah I bowled against Brian Valenta in the top 16 match play at the Junior Olympic Gold Championships last July. He went on to place 2nd and make Jr Team USA. An inside shot, especially a dryer one is great for him, and he just tears it up. The best of luck out to him.
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mrtappedalot · « **Reply #13 on:** February 16, 2005, 10:32:12 PM »

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So if ABC requires a differentiation between RIGHT and LEFT book and sheet averages, will there be a new classification for TWO-HANDED?

I believe (if I remember the ABC rules correctly) that you can only use one hand, and one hand only when bowling. So technically, these guys aren't bowling two-handed, but obviously the non-bowling hand is pulled off the ball a split second before release; that's why its legal. So that's how that goes.

As for it being the wave of the future; I can see some people doing it, but if it was really THAT big of an advantage, we would have seen many more people doing it by now.

Many two-handed bowlers I see out there are just guys who swing the living daylights out of the ball on THS and let the wall do the work. I'm sure Osku and Brian are exceptions obviously to most others out there. And while I see two-handed bowlers making it in events here and there, I really don't think it will ever become that big of a faction.

NOTHUMB · « **Reply #14 on:** February 16, 2005, 10:52:26 PM »

Yeah um we had a 2 hander in this area. His nickname around the bowling alley---spray and pray.
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