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2011 TOC show to be on ABC-TV
« on: June 22, 2010, 02:23:10 AM »
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Re: 2011 TOC show to be on ABC-TV
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2010, 10:40:43 AM »
Thanks,Riggs. No to sure about the future of the PBA,but this show at this time should be interesting.

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Re: 2011 TOC show to be on ABC-TV
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2010, 10:47:36 AM »
I wish the PBA would go back to the old school way of production.
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Re: 2011 TOC show to be on ABC-TV
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2010, 10:48:07 AM »
Jeff,

 I hate to be angry, and skeptical, but I am. I don't think having it televised on ABC will do anything for bowling, and I also feel that the only reason that it is being televised there is because Kelly Kulick won it last year, which turned in into a miniature media sideshow of sorts.

 I see where you say that NOW it has been opened up to ANY PBA member who has EVER won a tournament. I also feel that this is a kneejerk reaction to all the criticism the PBA received for allowing Kelly into the tournament last year after winning the specialized, limited competition, "WOMENS" series.


 I guess what I am feeling, and trying to say is, I wish bowling was interesting enough in its own right to have garnered an appearance on ABC television. Instead, I feel like ABC is trying to "cash in" on what, last year, turned into a media sideshow.


 I could be totally wrong, and I actually hope that I am.

 I just don't see why people who don't even watch the PBA, and don't even/won't even know what the significance of this tournament is, would suddenly flock to their tv's to watch this. Because its on ABC?  You may get a few more casual viewers, but that's probably all. The faithful, like you and I, will already be there.


 Love you, love your articles, and love bowling, I just feel like this is a "publicity stunt" by ABC more than anything else, and that would be sad.
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Re: 2011 TOC show to be on ABC-TV
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2010, 10:52:30 AM »
I hope the powers-at-hand decide to use a PROFESSIONAL pair of announcers for this event. Having Marshall Holman and Bo Burton on hand wouldn't be a bad idea.

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Re: 2011 TOC show to be on ABC-TV
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2010, 10:53:51 AM »
Riggs, any idea as to the TV show crew, will they use Rob and Randy from the ESPN telecast or will ABC-TV have their own crew?

Juggs, i see where you coming from and i agree you make some very valid concerns. I feel that given the current state of bowling in general, this move COULD be just what the PBA needs, and thats more exposure. Thats assuming they (ABC-TV) promote and market this show well in advance of the air date.
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Re: 2011 TOC show to be on ABC-TV
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2010, 11:58:07 AM »
ABC, ESPN.  They are the same company.

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Re: 2011 TOC show to be on ABC-TV
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2010, 12:11:29 PM »
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Juggs, i see where you coming from and i agree you make some very valid concerns. I feel that given the current state of bowling in general, this move COULD be just what the PBA needs, and thats more exposure. Thats assuming they (ABC-TV) promote and market this show well in advance of the air date.


 I truly hope you're the one who's right. ABC used to broadcast all (or nearly all) PBA events in primetime on saturday afternoons, and it was pretty highly rated. HOPEFULLY this event will be profitable enough to show ABC that bowling IS worthy to be on broadcast network tv during prime hours.


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Re: 2011 TOC show to be on ABC-TV
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2010, 01:28:25 PM »
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Juggs, i see where you coming from and i agree you make some very valid concerns. I feel that given the current state of bowling in general, this move COULD be just what the PBA needs, and thats more exposure. Thats assuming they (ABC-TV) promote and market this show well in advance of the air date.


 I truly hope you're the one who's right. ABC used to broadcast all (or nearly all) PBA events in primetime on saturday afternoons, and it was pretty highly rated. HOPEFULLY this event will be profitable enough to show ABC that bowling IS worthy to be on broadcast network tv during prime hours.


Juggernaut,
     While I too remember bowling on Saturday afternoons, I would hardly consider that "prime hours". With all the competition for time, baseball, soccor, football, basketball, etc. Saturday afternoons from 1:30 - 3:00 (or 3:30) is time most people spend outside or away from the televisions. I think, and hope, their will be a ratings increase, but I think that is almost a guarantee since ABC is broadcast into millions of more homes then ESPN.

That being said, I think this is a good thing for that exact reason. And I don't really think it matters why it is happening. I am happy to see the PBA captialize on Kelly's win last year. This is exactly what they should be doing. Using the media sensation generated by that to help expand the reach of the PBA into the TV viewing public.

Also, Kelly won the Women's World Championship to qualify for the TOC. That was open to all, not just the Women's Series qualifiers, just like the Men's World Championship was open to any PBA member. I think it was perfectly legitimate to give the winner of that tournament a spot in the TOC. And no one would have said a thing if Kelly had finished 71st, it was only because she made the show, that people started complaining. With the advent of the exempt tour, you had to adjust the rules of the TOC or eventually, you may have only had 30-40 people that qualified for it. And with the $1MM total purse this year, I again think it is fair to open it up like they are. Why should someone be excluded from a chance to win one, if not the largest 1st prize in professional bowling ever, just because your win was too long ago and someone won their one and only tournament after you? If you won a PBA event, you are a "Champion" and deserve a chance to shine in an event like this.

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Re: 2011 TOC show to be on ABC-TV
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2010, 08:22:19 PM »
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I hope the powers-at-hand decide to use a PROFESSIONAL pair of announcers for this event. Having Marshall Holman and Bo Burton on hand wouldn't be a bad idea.


I personally don't think the announcers are the problem.  We need integrity back in the sport.  The announcers aren't running off near as many people as boredom and overpriced equipment is.
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Re: 2011 TOC show to be on ABC-TV
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2010, 09:08:02 PM »
Granted, the announcers are just part of the problem. However, when I'm watching a telecast I want people who know what they're talking about when it comes to the PBA and bowling. Not some guy who screams, "Hambone !", or "Yahtzee !".

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Re: 2011 TOC show to be on ABC-TV
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2010, 11:54:18 PM »
Anymore there is very little difference between ABC and ESPN productions, especially with both being the part of the same parent company. Heck, a lot of ABC Sports shows are now branded "ESPN on ABC" so I bet that it will look very close to the same as an ESPN show and might even have Winnercomm as the production company as usual.

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Re: 2011 TOC show to be on ABC-TV
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2010, 12:08:51 AM »
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Saturday afternoons from 1:30 - 3:00 (or 3:30) is time most people spend outside or away from the televisions.



You obviously live in a winterless climate.  Jan 22nd I'll be curled up under a blanket because it will be -20 outside.  TV is pretty much the only thing to do up here in MN during the bitterly cold months of winter.  I'll be tuning in!

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Re: 2011 TOC show to be on ABC-TV
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2010, 07:57:42 AM »
ESPN and ABC are the same company.  Don't expect any announcer changes.  Would imagine show will look the same and only difference will be ABC telecast, which might increase ratings a little.  Don't see how this is a negative in any way.

BTW, the British Open this year will be on ESPN all four days -- no ABC coverage.
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Re: 2011 TOC show to be on ABC-TV
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2010, 08:16:17 AM »
I don't mind the announcers so much but the different show format every week is beyond horrible. Stick with the original step ladder format and quit trying to push a different gimmick every week.

The PBA last year was nothing but gimmicks and had little substance. Different formats, Different lane conditions on a single pair, Different whatever they could figure out. Remember gold pins??? These are all horrible idea they keep coming up with the lets us know the end is near for the PBA just like the WPBA.
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