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Title: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: titletowncards on October 28, 2008, 11:11:41 AM
I am throwing Earl Anthony out there as the greatest lefty ever.
It's hard to dispute that, 41 titles later.

I'm watching some Youtube videos of Mike Aulby and Parker Bohn III and I can't decide who I'd rank as the second greatest lefty ever.

I lean towards Parker, but Aulby won more Major's and was so good in the clutch, beating Parker for a couple of title's even (1998 Masters, 1996 TPC).

Let me know what you guys think and throw some more names in the discussion.

If you haven't guessed already, I'm a lefty myself.
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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: Joe Jr on October 28, 2008, 07:16:32 PM
To me it's Parker. I think he's the best lefty on the planet.
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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: sdbowler on October 28, 2008, 07:19:53 PM
I would agree that bowling alone would be EA but with everything else that Parker is involved in for bowling it would be him.
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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on October 28, 2008, 07:32:41 PM
Lefty Hawkins from the early 1840's back when the PBA first came alive on ESPN.  The guy was cranking particle pieces from the cap to the other cap and winning the Lumber Liquidators titles like no other.

I believe he once won 13 tournaments in a row, before he got bored and started bowling right handed...
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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: scotts33 on October 28, 2008, 09:54:40 PM
I like Parker but to me Mike Aulby is the best.

With him I'll also take Steve Cook brother-in-law and Johnny Petraglia cuz he's a Vietnam Vet.
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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: lsf_21 on October 28, 2008, 10:08:13 PM
i think jason couch should be in the discussion
parker is still the one of the best but i believe jason couch should be close.
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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on October 28, 2008, 10:11:30 PM
quote:
i think jason couch should be in the discussion
parker is still the one of the best but i believe jason couch should be close.
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Jason's body of work cannot compare with Petraglia's, PB3's, or Mike Aulby's.  Couch has a TON of game, but he's not in the same class as the other lefties.
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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: iowalefty on October 28, 2008, 10:39:02 PM
what?? no love for scott devers???

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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: scotts33 on October 28, 2008, 10:50:53 PM
quote:
what?? no love for scott devers???


Beautiful figure 8 back swing.  Ya know he had/has a 1/2 lane in his basement???

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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on October 28, 2008, 10:55:14 PM
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quote:
what?? no love for scott devers???


Beautiful figure 8 back swing.  Ya know he had/has a 1/2 lane in his basement???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBgwbpm1Io0  <---Note the LaMode shirt young bowlers!
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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: titletowncards on October 29, 2008, 12:36:03 AM
I love the Scott Devers reference!
Go to the match that were talking about and put a dark hoody and a mustache on Stayrook and tell me he wouldn't resemble the Unabomber.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBgwbpm1Io0
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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: Walking E on October 29, 2008, 01:43:13 AM
Aulby could play the whole lane as well. Both Aulby and Parker were/are extremely versatile.
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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: rockerbowler18 on October 29, 2008, 02:00:15 AM
Earl Anthony is number 1...

I'd take Parker Bohn III as number 2, and at that a CLOSE second. I know he's several titles behind, but he's got tougher competition than Earl Anthony did as far as I'm concerned.

Also, look at the man's form! He's by the book, and a lot of people criticize lefties for having strange form. I think we can all agree there is no one out there with better textbook form than Parker. On top of the game, he's got the heart, he's a great guy to hang around, loves the game, and does anything he can to promote the sport.

In third, I'd say it's a tie with Jason Couch and Aulby. Couch really is great, whether people agree with me or not.

Also, since we're already talking about lefties, I don't think he's anywhere near the tip top of the list, but I think Patrick Allen is an underrated player. He's a pretty nice guy and he's got a nasty ball motion. (nasty being good)
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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: iowalefty on October 29, 2008, 06:54:31 AM
i remember scott had a lane in his basement...jess the unabomber, i can see it in my mind lol.
scott looked like my drunken right handed uncle trying to bowl left handed almost.  he couldnt walk a straight line either. yet he won 4 titles lol.

in all seriousness id go PBIII too for 2nd best.  aulby is close too.
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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: dpunky on October 29, 2008, 07:14:52 AM
Mike Aulby, in my opinion, is the second greatest lefty ever in the PBA.  Parker Bohn III is a close third.

Why is Steve Cook not being mentioned?
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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: Scolai on October 29, 2008, 07:19:15 AM
Erik Forkel is another lefty that has terrific form and 5 PBA titles.  One also has to think of John Mazza with 8 titles in any discussion of lefties who are worthy of consideration.

In terms of rank, I have to agree with previous posters:
1 - Earl Anthony
2 - Parker Bohn III
3 - Mike Aulby

The Scott Devers reference made me chuckle.  It was always humorous to watch the guy...
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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: Pinbuster on October 29, 2008, 07:51:04 AM
Everyone forget Dave Davis?

But to answer the question I would give the nod to Aulby over Bohn. Aulby has many more Major titles than Bohn.

Edited on 10/29/2008 8:43 AM
Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: titletowncards on October 29, 2008, 11:39:15 AM
Let me revise my Earl Anthony title total to 43, I forgot they have now included his Masters titles.
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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: Maine Man on October 29, 2008, 11:43:19 AM
quote:
In terms of rank, I have to agree with previous posters:
1 - Earl Anthony
2 - Parker Bohn III
3 - Mike Aulby


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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: Badger856 on October 29, 2008, 11:47:18 AM
Aulby all day long.
Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: mrbowlingnut on October 29, 2008, 11:53:04 AM
Aulby because when I had glasses I was mistaken for him a few times at the Showboat. One guy watched me bowling and said you can even bowl right handed, I guess that works since I throw it so bad the guy thought i was using the wrong hand

Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on October 29, 2008, 11:55:32 AM
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Aulby because when I had glasses I was mistaken for him a few times at the Showboat. One guy watched me bowling and said you can even bowl right handed, I guess that works since I throw it so bad the guy thought i was using the wrong hand





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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: DON DRAPER on October 29, 2008, 11:55:59 AM
with 31 pba national titles it's hard to pick anyone other than parker bohn III. however, mike aulby with 27 titles, and more majors, was a threat to win any time he stepped up on the approach.
Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: TWOHAND834 on October 29, 2008, 12:01:14 PM
It is not even close........RICK LAWRENCE.  He got on that hot streak where he made like 2 shows a few years back.

Seriously, I would give the nod to Parker, then Aulby.

I also liked watching Ricky Ward when he was out there, John Mazza, and John Gant.  Gant really strapped on it and I like how much lane he was playing in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-OrIVpminQ
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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: LuckyLefty on October 29, 2008, 12:04:56 PM
Well if you like how Parker bowls(and YES lefties look better and I'm a righty by birth).  Then you would also LOVE Dave Davis' form!  (He was one of Parker's teachers).

When Dave was about age 56 when I was fortunate enough to get to bowl with Dave he had just finished winning a senior major title(I'm sorry I forget which one)!  He had completed knee surgery and rehabilitation and his form was incredible and may frankly be bowling as well as he ever had in his life!  More powerful and fast than videos I have seen of him.  Fantastic!  At that time he qualified for about 4 out of 5 finals on TV and the Senior tour closed down...I don't even know if Dave still bowls!

20 titles....I'm not sure how many majors(say 3??) and I believe a couple of Senior majors also.  

But most importantly....Dave I believe was 7 and 1 versus Earl on TV.

Many people don't know that fact! For me that is why I rank Dave over Parker(my favorite bowler today)!

Dave Davis....second greatest lefty of all time..

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PS (got this from Wikipedia "including an amazing six titles in the 1967 season alone. The 1967 season would see him win the PBA National Championship on his way to Player of the Year honors. He also won the PBA National Championship in 1965, plus two Tournament of Champions titles (1968 and 1975)......4 majors!)

PS 1. Earl...2. Dave Davis...3. Parker Bohn!




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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: BowlingWolf on October 29, 2008, 12:17:42 PM
While I also agree with Earl Anthony as the greatest, I think it's a toss-up between Parker and Aulby for second place, with Dave Davis, Johnny Petraglia, and the incredibly powerful Steve Cook and Jason Couch right behind them.

One of the bowlers that I absolutely loved to watch whenever he made the show, but, alas, despite his talent, most powerful release and silky smooth form, never managed to win a title, was Richard Wolfe.  I don't think there was ever anyone so smooth and powerful all in one package, either as a lefty or righty.
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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: Juggernaut on October 29, 2008, 12:25:18 PM
HUGH MILLER! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1G7jDgj_eU
 J/K, although Hugh was a pretty good bowler

  Actually, I love to watch Parker, but I have to give 2nd to Aulby.  Mike was the first player to ever make $300,000 in a single season.  You don't do that by being a slouch!
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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: BowlingWolf on October 29, 2008, 12:28:47 PM
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HUGH MILLER! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1G7jDgj_eU
 J/K, although Hugh was a pretty good bowler

  Actually, I love to watch Parker, but I have to give 2nd to Aulby.  Mike was the first player to ever make $300,000 in a single season.  You don't do that by being a slouch!
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And Parker was the first bowler to make $400,000 in one season.
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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: Juggernaut on October 29, 2008, 12:48:18 PM
quote:

And Parker was the first bowler to make $400,000 in one season.
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  I didn't think your statement was accurate, so I did a little research.

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Walter Ray Williams Jr. capped a recordbreaking season with a victory at the 2003 PBA World Championship at Taylor Sportsplex. Williams wrapped up his third win and second major of the campaign with a 226-205 win over Brian Kretzer in the championship match. The win earned the five-time PBA Player of the Year $120,000 and pushed his season earnings to a record $419,600, making him the first bowler to top $400,000 in a single season. '`This is such a great feeling," said Williams, who now ranks second all time with 37 PBA tour titles. "This feeling never gets, old. This win ranks right up there with the other majors I've won."
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  Pulled directly from the article here: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FCK/is_/ai_101497223

  However, it appears that I may have overstated Mr. Aulby's earnings as well.  He didn't actually quite make it to $300,000.  This is from his wikipedia page:
 he collected a then-record $298,237 in winnings.  Close, but NO CIGAR.
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Edited on 10/29/2008 12:57 PM
Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: LuckyLefty on October 29, 2008, 12:52:44 PM
For our researcher.

And Dave Davis was the first to win 6 in a single year!

(I have no idea).

Just thought I'd throw it out there!

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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: Juggernaut on October 29, 2008, 01:00:14 PM
quote:
For our researcher.

And Dave Davis was the first to win 6 in a single year!

(I have no idea).

Just thought I'd throw it out there!

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  It would appear that you are correct sir. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Davis_(bowler)

( Have to cut & paste due to the parenthesis )
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Edited on 10/29/2008 1:01 PM
Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: titletowncards on October 29, 2008, 01:21:25 PM
I am a little young to ever see Dave Davis on TV, but from what I've seen on Classic and Youtube, I can see your arguement.
Great form!
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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: BowlingWolf on October 29, 2008, 01:48:48 PM
Juggernaut,

This is what happens when one relies on memory--it is often faulty.  

For some reason I was thinking Parker had amassed over $400,000 in one year first--maybe it was not all PBA official earnings--I'll have to do some research.

Thanks for the stats.

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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: Juggernaut on October 29, 2008, 01:56:07 PM
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Juggernaut,

This is what happens when one relies on memory--it is often faulty.  

For some reason I was thinking Parker had amassed over $400,000 in one year first--maybe it was not all PBA official earnings--I'll have to do some research.

Thanks for the stats.

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 As will I.  Could've SWORN Aulby went over $300,000....... Oh well, egg on MY face.
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Edited on 10/29/2008 1:56 PM
Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: bowlerdawg on October 29, 2008, 02:50:10 PM
got to give it aulby
dude did not flinch in the clutch

ice water in his veins

parker is a bad man make no doubt there

but for me it Mike Aulby
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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: Monster Pike on October 29, 2008, 03:28:58 PM
Well, Scroggy's gotta be in this discussion also, LOL!!  Seriously, at this point I would say Aulby & BohnIII are pretty even w/an ever so slight edge to Aulby.  Bohn wins another major & a few more wins then he would maybe pull ahead.  But Aulby beating him in majors has to get the nod.
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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: KennyRambo on October 29, 2008, 05:12:16 PM
Aulby.
Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: noturcuzin on October 29, 2008, 05:20:38 PM
My vote is for either Patrick Allen or Parker Bohn III.
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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: Walking E on October 29, 2008, 05:26:07 PM
I don't think I could decide between Aulby and Bohn. They are both so amazing.

I also agree that Patrick Allen throws a great ball and is a great bowler, though I wouldn't put him up there with these guys yet.

Couch is an animal. I have to think that the advent of reactive equipment hurt Couch's career. If the PBA was still using urethane, Couch and Robert Smith would each have 25 titles by now, if not more.
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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: LuckyLefty on October 30, 2008, 10:11:00 AM
RE Dave Davis..From what I have seen out on Classic...doesn't compare to how powerful his form was in his 50s(when I believe he won two SENIOR MAJORS also) I think!

I don't mean revs either.  I mean higher revs than his Classic days of the 70s and rumbling speed...like near 20 or so off the hand.

The word power stroker comes to mind and in person one could see with his perfect free arm swing and level high speed release how he could take some lane conditions right out of play.

Actually very very assured when competing also!

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Title: Re: 2nd Greatest Lefty ever on PBA tour
Post by: tonybowls on October 30, 2008, 10:26:45 AM
Jess Stayrook for sure.