Author Topic: walter ray williams, jr. (Read 3724 times)

DON DRAPER · « **on:** August 21, 2005, 10:08:26 AM »

i see age isn't slowing walter ray williams, jr., down. he won a regional title this weekend in st. petersburg, florida. after beating ritchie allen 261-209, and 258-202 in the round of 16 he then beat jason hurd 268-210 and 234-189. he then beat steve wilson 279-212 in the round of 4. the title match was only slightly tougher as he beat david hungate 238-212. with the exception of hungate the players he defeated were pba national tournament winners.

stopncrank · « **Reply #31 on:** August 23, 2005, 08:18:13 AM »

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Mr. Hanson,
Is it ok that a player can so drastically alter the scoring environment? The reason he burns the pattern outside is because his ball hits like a turd inside the second or third arrow. Back to what I said in my earlier post...without reactives, he is a good player, probably a hall of famer...but no way he's the best in the history of the game.

Is it coincidence that he won one title in five years prior to the introduction of reactives and then proceeded to be the most dominant player in history?

if i remember correctly, the great earl anthony had to quit the tour because his game didn't match up to tour conditions. how many titles did mark roth win before softer conditions and polyester equipment? how many titles has ameleto monicelli won since reactives came about? the reason walter ray IS the greatest is that he can ADAPT to whatever they(the pba) throw at him. how many times have the pba changed the oil patterns since walter has been bowling. he still wins no matter what conditions are out there.
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morpheus · « **Reply #32 on:** August 23, 2005, 01:13:33 PM »

Never-Learn
Once again, I never said he was terrible before reactives and even said he would probably have been a hall of famer if he continued on a similar pace. That being said and assume we never had reactives, let's say he's three times as good in the second half of his career which would give him 24 career titles. That isn't even close to what we witnessed after the introduction of reactives. I URGE YOU TO DO YOUR OWN STATISTICAL ANALYSIS BECAUSE MINE IS ACCURATE.

Pinbuster
The stats discounted his first two years and started with 1983, his first full year on tour.

stopncrank
Earl didn't spend 10 years on tour and suddenly become the greatest ever. In addition, there wasn't any technical innovation that made his stats look better or worse. That's not the case with WRW. He was a very good player and suddenly became unstoppable after the introduction of reactives.

Phillip Marlowe · « **Reply #33 on:** August 23, 2005, 01:20:01 PM »

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stopncrank
Earl didn't spend 10 years on tour and suddenly become the greatest ever. In addition, there wasn't any technical innovation that made his stats look better or worse. That's not the case with WRW. He was a very good player and suddenly became unstoppable after the introduction of reactives.

Well, this is not entirely accurate. Earl had a brief try at the tour in the early 60s, but got skunked. He went back home to Tacoma and practiced constantly (30-40 games a day) and bowled in pot games every night and tournaments until he felt that he had finally achieved the consistency he wanted and could consistently compete and win. Then he went back on tour. He probably could have done the same thing on tour, won a few and more gradually became "Earl Anthony" in the public eye, but he would have had a difficult time supporting his family.

Besides, he liked living in the Pacific Northwest...
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