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Title: ? about the show
Post by: droolly on December 16, 2007, 10:48:36 AM
What was the green/yellow ball Oatman used on the right lane?

Also, last week DeVaney was using a ball that had the pin location inches higher than his fingers, why use a layout like that?
Title: Re: ? about the show
Post by: J_Mac on December 16, 2007, 06:54:11 PM
Oatman was using a Big Blue Pearl on the show, I believe he may have used a Blue Vibe when he missed the 6 pin.

Using a high pin layout like that allows high rev players to use some of the aggressive coverstock/asymmetric equipment out there today.  Think of the Tommy Jones trick layout that everyone was obsessing about months ago.

That layout basically gets the ball to push further down the lane without burning up energy as early as a pin below the fingers layout on the same ball could.
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Title: Re: ? about the show
Post by: Monster Pike on December 16, 2007, 06:55:06 PM
I'm gonna guess It was Raw Toxic, but a Hammer head out there should know for sure.
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Title: Re: ? about the show
Post by: shelley on December 16, 2007, 06:55:09 PM
The consensus on the chat was a Big Blue Pearl.  Much brighter than PA's three years ago at the Masters.

The pin height affects the length and with Devaney's rev rate, he probably wanted something that pushed down the lane a little without having to use (more) polish that could make it squirty.

SH
Title: Re: ? about the show
Post by: Dyno-Joe on December 16, 2007, 06:57:18 PM
My guess with Devaney's lay out is due to how it was laid out. guessing that jim tomek laid it out for him using the dual angle technique and the pin can fall into that potion with some lay outs. and pin height does not dictate length, drilling angle does (first angle in dal).
Title: Re: ? about the show
Post by: wulfpackbwlr on December 16, 2007, 06:57:40 PM
Yes it was a BBP and it was a blue vibe that he missed that single pin with.  No clue why he threw that at it with that ball since in practice he had hardly thrown it after warm up.
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Title: Re: ? about the show
Post by: Monster Pike on December 16, 2007, 06:59:09 PM
Why would they call a ball Big Blue Pearl but make it Green/Yellow?
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Title: Re: ? about the show
Post by: wulfpackbwlr on December 16, 2007, 07:01:06 PM
Beats the crap out of me.  I was there.  It was green/yellow to my and everyone I was withs eyes as well.
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Title: Re: ? about the show
Post by: J_Mac on December 16, 2007, 07:53:35 PM
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Beats the crap out of me.  I was there.  It was green/yellow to my and everyone I was withs eyes as well.


I recognized it as a BBP right after thinking it was an off color Toxic.  Someone that has bowled with or seen Billy at Regionals verified that it is a BBP blem, perhaps explaining the odd coloration.
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Title: Re: ? about the show
Post by: FastTracker33 on December 16, 2007, 07:58:10 PM
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Beats the crap out of me.  I was there.  It was green/yellow to my and everyone I was withs eyes as well.


I recognized it as a BBP right after thinking it was an off color Toxic.  Someone that has bowled with or seen Billy at Regionals verified that it is a BBP blem, perhaps explaining the odd coloration.
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Being a blem explains it! LOL.

That was a heck of a nice blem. I love the ugly colored bowling balls (Track Robo Rule, Mo LevRG, etc. etc.).
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Title: Re: ? about the show
Post by: Xfest on December 16, 2007, 07:59:34 PM
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Beats the crap out of me.  I was there.  It was green/yellow to my and everyone I was withs eyes as well.


I recognized it as a BBP right after thinking it was an off color Toxic.  Someone that has bowled with or seen Billy at Regionals verified that it is a BBP blem, perhaps explaining the odd coloration.
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I have a BBP still and mine is no where near that bright. I almost thought it was one of the Storm Tropicals LOL.
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Word.. lol.. But then I remembered he was signed with Hammer, so I said Vicious Particle.. Nope, BBP blem..
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Title: Re: ? about the show
Post by: BowlerKidR on December 16, 2007, 09:21:33 PM
I watched the telecast on a 32"  LCD which usually is true to color, but i guess it was wrong. To me it looked like Oatman was throwing a Vicious, there was no doubt at that time that it was not.

Anyway i found the proof that it is indeed a Big Blue Pearl, and oddly enough this is not a color blem as far as i can tell.
http://brunswickinsiders.com/PBA%20Tournaments/08Spartanburg/PhotosSpartanburg/bowlingballs/oatmantvball3.jpg
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Edited on 12/16/2007 10:22 PM
Title: Re: ? about the show
Post by: DanH78 on December 16, 2007, 09:39:07 PM
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I watched the telecast on a 32"  LCD which usually is true to color, but i guess it was wrong. To me it looked like Oatman was throwing a Vicious, there was no doubt at that time that it was not.

Anyway i found the proof that it is indeed a Big Blue Pearl, and oddly enough this is not a color blem as far as i can tell.
http://brunswickinsiders.com/PBA%20Tournaments/08Spartanburg/PhotosSpartanburg/bowlingballs/oatmantvball3.jpg
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Edited on 12/16/2007 10:22 PM


And right there it says "X-out" which is how Hammer marks blems.  The pin looks like a normal length, so it was a color blem
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Title: Re: ? about the show
Post by: JOE FALCO on December 16, 2007, 09:47:56 PM
Evidently PRO's are allowed to use 'X-OUT' balls! Sounds strange to me!
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Title: Re: ? about the show
Post by: DanH78 on December 16, 2007, 09:55:23 PM
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Evidently PRO's are allowed to use 'X-OUT' balls! Sounds strange to me!
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Why is that strange?
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Title: Re: ? about the show
Post by: Crankenstein300 on December 16, 2007, 10:18:52 PM
A lot of the Ebonite users have used X Outs. Patrick Allen comes to mind. I've seen X Outs of nearly every ball used by him.
Title: Re: ? about the show
Post by: JOE FALCO on December 17, 2007, 07:14:21 AM
Why is it strange? I thought X-OUTS were balls that were REJECTED by the companies QC .. this being the case they are UNUSUAL .. not knowing what unusual would mean .. how can it be used in a professional game? That was what I meant by STRANGE!
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Title: Re: ? about the show
Post by: BowlerKidR on December 17, 2007, 09:38:42 AM
This is because normally an x-out ball has low top weight or a real short or long pin length. To the every day house bowlers, these balls will not work properly and the bowler will not like the ball. For this reason the balls are marked X-OUT, but are still sold to the public. The reason that the pro's use them and are allowed to use them is because these balls are still legal according to the USBC and the PBA. As long as the ball is within the regulations with regards to static weights and crap like that, then they can be used. In the last few season when The One was very popular with Tommy Jones and Patrick Allen, both of them used 5 inch pin balls, with the CG down near their thumbs. Its all about getting a certain ball reaction, and anything is legal as long as its static weights fall in the range of legal.
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Title: Re: ? about the show
Post by: ToppDogg on December 17, 2007, 12:08:46 PM
i just check on the pba website they have a part call in the bag that tell u what ball everybody had billy o had bbp
Title: Re: ? about the show
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on December 17, 2007, 12:35:05 PM
Sweet!  Big Blue Pearl making an appearance?
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