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bowler257628

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A sad day in the pba
« on: March 18, 2004, 09:16:23 PM »
The 32 man bracket left MANY well known pba pros out of the cut, meaning if they don't do tour trials they are not gonna make the show for a very long time until the PBA comes to planet earth and realizes exempt status sucks.
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Re: A sad day in the pba
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2004, 02:05:28 PM »
there are lots of bowlers going to tour trials, I just think the pba is better off without the exempt tour...
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Re: A sad day in the pba
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2004, 02:53:01 PM »
My thoughts are that a stronger field week in and week out will be on hand. But at the same time the dream of many PBA wannabes will be dashed. No Dreamers any more. Qualify or stay home. Just ranting again....
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Re: A sad day in the pba
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2004, 03:28:28 PM »
So your telling me if you are on tour for so many years and you didnt get exempt this year you wouldnt be sad?
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bowler257628

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Re: A sad day in the pba
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2004, 03:38:04 PM »
ok.. Let me put it like this, Rudy "revs" Didnt give a care this tourney because he didnt care....... He gave up. Go to ANY pba pro and ask them how they feel about exempt.. Just ask Pete Weber, he will tell you he hate it and he is exempted.. The pba made a stupid mistake by exemption on tour and they have to live with the mistake.
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bowler257628

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Re: A sad day in the pba
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2004, 03:59:31 PM »
How is this great for professional bowling?? Rudy gave up because he had no chance to make it to match play.. So what if he didnt make match play alot? Who are you to judge them for somthing they do? Are you on tour? Did you just lose your career in bowling? If so who are you? I am not on tour myself, but a couple of friends are, and they HATE the exempt tour..... PBA bowlers have everything to do with exempt tour because they are the ones that bowl.. This year was a complete waste, I think they might as well close down the PBA National tour and every touring player should go home and bowl regionals.
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Re: A sad day in the pba
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2004, 04:18:43 PM »
your 12 year old nephew couldnt be on tour... As far as rudy giving up I see why.. If I bowled on tour all those years then bowled trying to save my career id be pissed off like he was too. The PBA Screws its members once more!!! LONG LIVE THE PBA
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Re: A sad day in the pba
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2004, 04:21:37 PM »
Hey, lets not insult one another.  Everyone has an opinion.  My thoughts, as a viewer, is that its great.  I will see the guys that I want to watch bowl and not the ones that had a "soft" (I know,not always true) draw during the week.  As a PBA Member, its probably terible because if you did not make it, you will have to do something else to make a living. This will be hard to swallow for most.  BUT what I think really screwed things up was the bracket formats.  I kind like the way they did it before.  Bowl your qualifying games then let the top 24 go into match play.  Here the top bowlers always seem to make it to the top while giving the othere something to shoot for.
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Re: A sad day in the pba
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2004, 04:24:52 PM »
This year showed who were the actual bowlers and who were wasted talent. Sorry, IMHO, Rudy never showed he was anything great and just a wasted talent in all the years hes been bowling. The exempt tour might be helping some bowlers out, and letting them go on to other things they should have started at doing. Some bowlers would have made more money working at Mcdonalds then what they made this season.
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Re: A sad day in the pba
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2004, 04:24:59 PM »
I love the new exempt PBA tour.

The PBA does NOT need one-hit-wonders out there like Chris Hayden who make match play once every 50 events, and then walks around saying he's a professional. I have nothing but respect for the careers of greats like Randy and Del, but in how many professional sports do you see people competing after 10, 15, 20 years? They simply weren't able to compete at the same level they once were.

And for those that still want to aspire to the PBA, there are the rabbit squads. It's basically like the old qualifying, just only the top 4 make the cut. So instead of everybody who averages 210 making the cut, only the very best will advance to match play.
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Re: A sad day in the pba
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2004, 04:25:33 PM »
Wouldnt it get kinda boring watching the same bowlers over and over? I hate watching a Dave Traber and Steve Jaros match, they dont have enough "energy" to put on a show. I will say this since there is an exempt tour I am glad at least Duke,Maximum Bob, weber,etc the "exciting bowlers" make the exemption. I just dont like that the pba made the exemption when there are some good bowlers out there..
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Re: A sad day in the pba
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2004, 04:27:13 PM »
The PBA does NOT need one-hit-wonders out there like Chris Hayden who make match play once every 50 events, and then walks around saying he's a professional. I have nothing but respect for the careers of greats like Randy and Del, but in how many professional sports do you see people competing after 10, 15, 20 years? They simply weren't able to compete at the same level they once were.


You do know Randy and Del are not exempt? I hate the "hype" tim mack got when he first came on tour...



And buzzsaw your nephew needs a Highschool diploma to be on tour.. Thats a requirement.
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Re: A sad day in the pba
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2004, 08:51:42 PM »
I've been reading these posts and have a question and a few comments.

Question -aren't amateurs still going to be able to bowl in the ABC Masters and US Open?

Comments:
  No offense intended to anyone. I really like bowling. I watch the telecasts to try and learn to bowl better. But I don't believe going to an exempt tour will turn bowling into anything like golf (more $$ from sponsors, more prize $$, more $$ in general?) which is what some posters seem to be suggesting.
  Think about it - ever take a customer bowling? How many business deals have any of you ever done in a bowling center? On a golf course? Golf, like it or not - is an elite and expensive! activity/sport. Bowlers complain about paying $3/game for open play. Most golfers often pay $100+ for eighteen and don't say a word.
  What does it cost to play 18 at Pebble Beach now, $300? People buy plane tickets to play golf on specific courses. The only thing remotely like this bowling has is the stadium in Reno and guess what, there is NO open bowling there. What genius thought that up?? Many golf courses are private or semi-private (elite, exclusive again). Ever heard of a private bowling center - except maybe the one in the White House? Who said it - pchee? - most bowlers are cheap. Golfers are not, at least when it comes to golf.
  I think its a big stretch to believe making bowling into an exempt tour will make the $$ flow. I hope I'm wrong.
  What is the other difference between golf and bowling - just about anyone can walk into a bowling alley, never having bowled before - and throw a strike or two. This gives the impression that the game is easy, whereas in golf the same person will be lucky to break 60 for nine holes and some of the 60 plus shots will be spent in complete frustration whiffing the ball. This person watches pro bowlers and says "That's not so hard." Watches golfers says "Those guys are amazing." No matter what you do to lane conditions this problem will remain. Sure you can get rid of the house shots and many of the 220 average "pba wannabe" bowlers but you cannot eliminate this intrinsic difference between the games. Do you even want to though? Isn't this part of bowling - anyone(from 5 to 95) can get a strike what makes many people actually enjoy doing it?
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bowler257628

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Re: A sad day in the pba
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2004, 10:17:35 PM »
You gotta give Zaffino credit he was an under dog and he actually lived up to his "hype" I still havent seen the "greatest amature" live up to his hype... As far as anything goes, there will not be more money on prize funds.. Thats as much as they can pay out or willing to pay out.
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Re: A sad day in the pba
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2004, 12:31:20 AM »
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I hate the "hype" tim mack got when he first came on tour...

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How can you hate the hype of Tim Mack and be a Rudy Revs fan?  Rudy is all about hype.  Rudy was known as a great pot bowler, but has had several years to make a name for himself as a professional.  He failed.  It's not the PBA's fault.  Over the last 4 years, he has averaged 11 cashes, 4 match plays, $17,500/year, and 0 TV finals total.  Mack had a great run as an amateur and won a ton of money worldwide.  He wasn't on tour the full year and was nearly exempt.  With more time to adjust to the conditions and equipment he might have qualified.  Remember, Mack is used to traveling light, not drilling 12-20 new balls each stop trying to get an ideal matchup.

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Just ask Pete Weber, he will tell you he hate it and he is exempted..  


How can you assume to know how PDW feels about anything?  I would think the guaranteed exempt pros would love the exempt tour because it means less competition.  I could see the borderline guys not liking it much...
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