Post by: bowler257628 on March 18, 2004, 09:16:23 PM
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Post by: bowler257628 on March 19, 2004, 02:05:28 PM
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Post by: Rantings on March 19, 2004, 02:53:01 PM
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Bowling is for sissies..ask Bones...
Post by: bowler257628 on March 19, 2004, 03:28:28 PM
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Post by: bowler257628 on March 19, 2004, 03:38:04 PM
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Post by: bowler257628 on March 19, 2004, 03:59:31 PM
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Post by: bowler257628 on March 19, 2004, 04:18:43 PM
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Post by: Stan on March 19, 2004, 04:21:37 PM
Post by: Platinum Bowler on March 19, 2004, 04:24:52 PM
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Post by: WAYouthBowler on March 19, 2004, 04:24:59 PM
The PBA does NOT need one-hit-wonders out there like Chris Hayden who make match play once every 50 events, and then walks around saying he's a professional. I have nothing but respect for the careers of greats like Randy and Del, but in how many professional sports do you see people competing after 10, 15, 20 years? They simply weren't able to compete at the same level they once were.
And for those that still want to aspire to the PBA, there are the rabbit squads. It's basically like the old qualifying, just only the top 4 make the cut. So instead of everybody who averages 210 making the cut, only the very best will advance to match play.
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I'm neither good, nor consistent, which is why I bowl.
Post by: bowler257628 on March 19, 2004, 04:25:33 PM
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Post by: bowler257628 on March 19, 2004, 04:27:13 PM
You do know Randy and Del are not exempt? I hate the "hype" tim mack got when he first came on tour...
And buzzsaw your nephew needs a Highschool diploma to be on tour.. Thats a requirement.
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Edited on 3/19/2004 5:22 PM
Post by: kjl456 on March 19, 2004, 08:51:42 PM
Question -aren't amateurs still going to be able to bowl in the ABC Masters and US Open?
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No offense intended to anyone. I really like bowling. I watch the telecasts to try and learn to bowl better. But I don't believe going to an exempt tour will turn bowling into anything like golf (more $$ from sponsors, more prize $$, more $$ in general?) which is what some posters seem to be suggesting.
Think about it - ever take a customer bowling? How many business deals have any of you ever done in a bowling center? On a golf course? Golf, like it or not - is an elite and expensive! activity/sport. Bowlers complain about paying $3/game for open play. Most golfers often pay $100+ for eighteen and don't say a word.
What does it cost to play 18 at Pebble Beach now, $300? People buy plane tickets to play golf on specific courses. The only thing remotely like this bowling has is the stadium in Reno and guess what, there is NO open bowling there. What genius thought that up?? Many golf courses are private or semi-private (elite, exclusive again). Ever heard of a private bowling center - except maybe the one in the White House? Who said it - pchee? - most bowlers are cheap. Golfers are not, at least when it comes to golf.
I think its a big stretch to believe making bowling into an exempt tour will make the $$ flow. I hope I'm wrong.
What is the other difference between golf and bowling - just about anyone can walk into a bowling alley, never having bowled before - and throw a strike or two. This gives the impression that the game is easy, whereas in golf the same person will be lucky to break 60 for nine holes and some of the 60 plus shots will be spent in complete frustration whiffing the ball. This person watches pro bowlers and says "That's not so hard." Watches golfers says "Those guys are amazing." No matter what you do to lane conditions this problem will remain. Sure you can get rid of the house shots and many of the 220 average "pba wannabe" bowlers but you cannot eliminate this intrinsic difference between the games. Do you even want to though? Isn't this part of bowling - anyone(from 5 to 95) can get a strike what makes many people actually enjoy doing it?
Post by: bowler257628 on March 19, 2004, 10:17:35 PM
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Post by: Strider on March 20, 2004, 12:31:20 AM
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I hate the "hype" tim mack got when he first came on tour...
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How can you hate the hype of Tim Mack and be a Rudy Revs fan? Rudy is all about hype. Rudy was known as a great pot bowler, but has had several years to make a name for himself as a professional. He failed. It's not the PBA's fault. Over the last 4 years, he has averaged 11 cashes, 4 match plays, $17,500/year, and 0 TV finals total. Mack had a great run as an amateur and won a ton of money worldwide. He wasn't on tour the full year and was nearly exempt. With more time to adjust to the conditions and equipment he might have qualified. Remember, Mack is used to traveling light, not drilling 12-20 new balls each stop trying to get an ideal matchup.
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Just ask Pete Weber, he will tell you he hate it and he is exempted..
How can you assume to know how PDW feels about anything? I would think the guaranteed exempt pros would love the exempt tour because it means less competition. I could see the borderline guys not liking it much...
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Post by: freedomrules3 on March 20, 2004, 12:47:30 AM
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AS I GET OLDER I AM LESS AND LESS TOLERABLE TO CHILDISH BEHAVIOR AND MEAN PEOPLE
Post by: seadrive on March 20, 2004, 08:54:40 AM
Keep in mind that this is not a lifelong sure thing. Check out the exempt field breakout for the 2005-2006 tour:
# Location of Exemption
40 PBA Tour (champions and point leaders)
7 Point leaders from the seven PBA regions
11 PBA Tour Trials
4 Weekly PTQ
1 Weekly Commissioner Exemption
1 Weekly Elite Pro-am Winner
64 Total Bowlers for 2005-2006
Of the 58 guys who hold exemptions into the 2004-2005 tour stops, only the top 40 are guaranteed spots for the following year. There will be at least seven new guys on tour, the points leaders in each of the PBA regional tours.
The Walter Rays, Chris Barnes and Norm Dukes are sure bets to be on tour for years to come, but the guys who qualify this year through the Tour Trials will be on pins and needles all year long.
No more "I belong out here, just give me one more year to prove it." If you're as good as you think you are, then be the points leader in a region. If you can't do that, then stay home where you belong.
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Cogito ergo bowl
Post by: jkiser01 on March 20, 2004, 08:56:15 AM
I have been watching bowling on TV since I was a kid and I am 41 now and as much as I hate to say this, I look forward to new blood each and every week..
The future of the PBA are players like DJ Archer, Chris Johnson and Wes Malott. These are up and coming young players that are exciting to watch and you can tell they love the game of bowling and would never quit or give up..
Lets not knock the exempt status until we see if it works or not..
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If they only made a ball that would carry that d*mn 10 pin..
jkiser01
Edited on 3/20/2004 10:17 AM
Post by: jkiser01 on March 20, 2004, 11:11:51 AM
Great points in your last post and I totally agree with you..
Its 2004 and time to make a change or the PBA will join the PWBA and I don't think any of us want that to happen..
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If they only made a ball that would carry that d*mn 10 pin..
jkiser01
Post by: debs130 on March 20, 2004, 11:24:20 AM
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You know, I never really believe people that have more than 2 numbers after their screen name to be smart.
Gee,thanks a lot! I have 3 numbers after my name to represent my birthday.
Debbie