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Title: amletto monacelli
Post by: Dabalos on August 19, 2008, 09:06:59 AM
What ever happend to him?
Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: charlest on August 19, 2008, 06:13:48 PM
no longer an exempt player (stupid rule). will lead to the downfall of the PBA.

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Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: noturcuzin on August 19, 2008, 06:18:14 PM
He was a good bowler. I just watched him on tv today.
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Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: pro shop guy on August 19, 2008, 06:32:56 PM
Him and John Mazza were my 2 favorites growing up.
Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: dyno- thane300 on August 19, 2008, 06:43:18 PM
Bob Learn Jr. whatever happened to him?
Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: charlest on August 19, 2008, 07:49:30 PM
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Bob Learn Jr. whatever happened to him?


Same as Monacelli, same as Brian Voss, Same as many GREAT bowlers.
According to the PBA, they're not "what's happening now".
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Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: BigWillyStyle on August 19, 2008, 07:54:36 PM
Not trying to start a "who's better than who" debate, but Rhino Page made it through many TQR's to make TV. I'm sure that everyone mentioned has just as much opportunity as Rhino...some have just moved onto another part of their life.

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Same as Monacelli, same as Brian Voss, Same as many GREAT bowlers.
According to the PBA, they're not "what's happening now".
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Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: sdbowler on August 19, 2008, 08:00:30 PM
If I recall didn't Amletto start to have a lot of hip problems. He was a pretty fit guy though. I remember seeing him in Alabama a few years ago. He was in great physical shape I thought.
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Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: luv2C10falll on August 19, 2008, 08:16:57 PM
Yea ...Put Rhino on the right side of the lane an he's doin something else also...Maybe workin at HomeDepot
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Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: BigWillyStyle on August 19, 2008, 08:20:54 PM
C'mon....you CAN'T say that with all that success, that it was cause of the left side. He had a good year...that's that. He was top 5 in average on a few of the patterns if I remember correctly. Very good bowler. But there are plenty of righties that keep their spot year-after-year with no problem. If it was that easy to bowl PBA on the left side, then don't you think that the PBA would be predominantly lefties?!?

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Yea ...Put Rhino on the right side of the lane an he's doin something else also...Maybe workin at HomeDepot
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Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: DanH78 on August 19, 2008, 08:25:30 PM
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Didn't Sean Rash qualify a couple times through TQR's from the right side?
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Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: TWOHAND834 on August 19, 2008, 08:49:35 PM
In fact.  Wasn't Rash the first to win through a TQR and the reason he became exempt?
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Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: JessN16 on August 19, 2008, 11:30:40 PM
Forget the left/right issue with Rhino, you can stop with this: If we packed the tour with everyone's favorites over the years, you would have a seniors/favorites tour and young guys would never get the chance to break through. There isn't enough room for them all and for better or worse, the exempt system is the way you separate the guys who are capable at that moment in time from the ones who aren't.

No one forced Voss or Monacelli to lose their exemptions. Monacelli's health took him away (happens to the best in all sports, eventually) and Voss didn't perform well enough (ditto). Simple as that.

If we're going to rap on the PBA for its exempt system, be prepared to curse golf because Jack Nicklaus isn't contending at Augusta or NASCAR because Richard Petty isn't still driving or baseball because Nolan Ryan is at home working on his dude ranch.

What bowling needs to fix this problem is a marketable senior tour, but no one has found a way to make it work financially on TV yet.

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Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: Mr Straight Ball on August 20, 2008, 09:55:05 AM
If we want to see who's capable now...do away with the exempt title and allow everyone who has the green to play. Plus, those animal patterns need to go since the so called best are looking right of 10 on 4 patterns out of 5. PBA should of worked on some new patterns and not the gimmicks they dropped this year like using different patterns on different lanes. AY-CARUMBA!

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Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: Pinbuster on August 20, 2008, 11:02:08 AM
If you are going to open it up at least go back to the qualification that you have to be a member and cashed in two regionals or won a regional.

It is suppose to be the PROFESSIONAL bowlers tour not any hack that has the bucks to enter.
Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: jbuzz31 on August 20, 2008, 11:08:57 AM
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Bob Learn Jr. whatever happened to him?



i would love to see him on a show. i was watching espn classics one week and saw that show where he rolled the 300 against johnny petraglia.   what a show! i think the lowest score for anyone that day was a 268.
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Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: baer300 on August 20, 2008, 11:12:12 AM
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If we want to see who's capable now...do away with the exempt title and allow everyone who has the green to play. Plus, those animal patterns need to go since the so called best are looking right of 10 on 4 patterns out of 5. PBA should of worked on some new patterns and not the gimmicks they dropped this year like using different patterns on different lanes. AY-CARUMBA!

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The PBA did change the patterns for the upcoming year and added another pattern. So this year should be better, hopefully. I agree during last year all the patterns played by the gutter.


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Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: Marc822 on August 20, 2008, 11:16:28 AM
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Plus, those animal patterns need to go since the so called best are looking right of 10 on 4 patterns out of 5. PBA should of worked on some new patterns and not the gimmicks they dropped this year like using different patterns on different lanes. AY-CARUMBA!



the PBA actually did change the patterns slightly.  There isnt just 4 versions of the cheetah then the shark anymore
Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: dpunky on August 20, 2008, 11:16:35 AM
I think Monacelli had back issues that caused him to basically retire from the sport.  He still competes in the ToC
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Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: Mr Straight Ball on August 20, 2008, 11:19:52 AM
I know what you mean about "any old hack" playing BUT bowling is struggling! The other sports are leaving us in the dust. Obviously the sponsorship dollars are not overflowing so the only way to generate revenue is to let more people play. It does not have to be like the Open with a long qualifying format give folks (2) 6-game blocks and cut to whatever number.
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Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: shelley on August 20, 2008, 09:45:20 PM
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If we're going to rap on the PBA for its exempt system, be prepared to curse golf because Jack Nicklaus isn't contending at Augusta or NASCAR because Richard Petty isn't still driving or baseball because Nolan Ryan is at home working on his dude ranch.


The only difference with bowling is that the exempt system is relatively new.  The PBA TOUR has had exemptions for years and you don't hear people bitcaing about that.  The Nationwide Tour serves much the same purpose as the regional tours in the PBA, but on a more flexible way.  Instead of simply taking the tops in each region (which I think they're doing away with anyway), winning on the Nationwide tour gets you a certain amount of exemption on the big tour.

This is not the first exempt system for the PBA tour, though.  There were previous exempt systems in the '80s and '90s, you just didn't hear about them every week like you do now and I believe the field was larger to boot.

SH
Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: KennyRambo on August 20, 2008, 10:05:15 PM
I'd like to see more tournaments and more patterns, hell have a different oil pattern every week, and not tell anybody what it is. Let the bowlers figure out how to play it, rather then coming in and setting it up every week.
Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: Rev_O on August 29, 2008, 10:11:58 PM
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Bob Learn Jr. whatever happened to him?


I think Mr. 300 either moved or is in process of moving to Texas to be closer to the USBC HQ.
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Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: Rev_O on August 29, 2008, 10:12:44 PM
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Yea ...Put Rhino on the right side of the lane an he's doin something else also...Maybe workin at HomeDepot
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Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: mjschrems on September 03, 2008, 12:08:39 AM
Being my favorite bowler since I can remember, at the 2007 ToC myself and 3 friends of mine actually sat down and talked to him the morning after he failed to qualify for the tournament. He talked to us for over an hour about life on tour...etc. He really opened up to us and told us a lot, some things I was very suprised at. I don't want to disclose everything here but there were some major factors why he decided to move on from bowling. Remember, his home and children are in Venezuela and it was very tough for him to only be there a few days a month. He said the injuries he had weren't too serious and not bothering him at the time. Now that he wasn't exempt he planned on working with children bowlers in his country. He had some other projects he was working on as well. Even though he wasn't exempt he said he still wanted to compete in a few tournaments like the US Open. He was one of the nicest persons i have ever met and it was a pleasure speaking to him. We were appreciative of him taking the time to meet with us, not many other people would have done that.
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Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: laddog54 on September 03, 2008, 01:03:53 PM
One of my favorites. Patterned my game after his for years until injuries made me tone it down.
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Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: wulfpackbwlr on September 03, 2008, 01:32:59 PM
As mjschrems mentioned, I had never heard anything about Amletto's injuries being the reason that he stopped bowling so much.  I remember hearing that it was more personal issues than injuries.  I can imagine it being rough emotionally, and expensive to be so far from your family.  While it's a choice all bowlers must make, it's possible he just decided to choose family over bowling.
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Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: HamPster on September 03, 2008, 04:26:43 PM
Haha, put Rhino on the right side and he would beat everybody over there too.  What about the righties that count on everybody else helping them burn in a shot to do well?  Righties have to put up with track burn, lefties have to put up with a lack of it.  If they start out without a look, they don't develop one for a while.  I'm ambidextrous, I bowl on both sides, and they both have their challenges.  On average, the left side is sharper but tighter.  In other words, I don't leave flat 7's much.  However, a shot on the right that would hold doesn't on the left side.  I miss two or three in on a house shot, I'm probably holding pocket on the right.  On the left, I'm looking at the 4-7 or possibly worse.  And don't forget that most of the guys on the right side play far enough left that they can burn Rhino's heads.  Rhino can play just as far right as most righties with hand can play left.  He's got the revs when he needs them.  It's too bad we only get to see what happens on the show.
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Title: Re: amletto monacelli
Post by: luv2C10falll on September 03, 2008, 05:16:43 PM
I dont know Hampster,from what Ive seen at some pba events I think only a few lefties can play deep,like 4th arrow or deeper like Couch,Bohn maybe even Allen but not sure with that one
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