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Another patented Chris Barnes mental breakdown...
« on: December 14, 2008, 04:55:10 AM »
Oh wait that was the Big Nasty! Whaaaaa?!!! He shoots 290 going into the championship match only to shoot 189 when he gets there. Yikes!
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Re: Another patented Chris Barnes mental breakdown...
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2008, 08:59:07 PM »
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They did, but they wouldn't have shredded the lane condition enough for that kind of quick transition.  IMO, it looked like he over-thought the situation after that game against Parker and tried to stay ahead of the lane changes instead of just playing them as he started last game and then make changes as he saw fit.


It also appeared to me that he should have de-shelled very early on in that game. He was getting a reaction consistent with too much surface for the condition and spent more time trying to adjust out of it than simply changing balls to something with more polish and/or a pearl with a similar layout and going that direction.

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Re: Another patented Chris Barnes mental breakdown...
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2008, 09:03:35 PM »
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They did, but they wouldn't have shredded the lane condition enough for that kind of quick transition.  IMO, it looked like he over-thought the situation after that game against Parker and tried to stay ahead of the lane changes instead of just playing them as he started last game and then make changes as he saw fit.


It also appeared to me that he should have de-shelled very early on in that game. He was getting a reaction consistent with too much surface for the condition and spent more time trying to adjust out of it than simply changing balls to something with more polish and/or a pearl with a similar layout and going that direction.

Jess


Yeah, I felt the same as I watching the telecast.  I was thinking maybe a switch to a Grand Illusion and he may have stayed in the match.  Of course, I can't say for sure bc I've haven't thrown mine on the Shark or any other PBA pattern, but it seemed like a decent choice.
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Re: Another patented Chris Barnes mental breakdown...
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2008, 11:05:18 PM »
He got over-confident and choked. He shouldnt have wiffed on a 10 pin
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Re: Another patented Chris Barnes mental breakdown...
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2008, 11:16:07 PM »
He probably could have made the change, cuz PA and Page were both using the HY-Road! Wow, PA switching from Hammer to Storm, go figure! Just my $.02, Bruce
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Re: Another patented Chris Barnes mental breakdown...
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2008, 01:25:45 AM »
Why shouldn't we be more surprised he missed a 10 pin than made the 2-4-6-10?
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Re: Another patented Chris Barnes mental breakdown...
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2008, 06:38:43 AM »
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Its called lane transition. Actually in the clutch when he needed strikes at the end he threw very good shots. He definitely got hosed in the 10th.




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Re: Another patented Chris Barnes mental breakdown...
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2008, 06:44:22 AM »
I was surprised like everyone that he whiffed the 10 pin. Wes is one of the best spare shooters on tour right now. It was for sure a mental breakdown, but saying he "choked" and was over confident, no way I agree with that..

As bad as he threw the ball the 1st part of the game and with the missed 10 pin, he still had a chance to win by striking out in the 9th and 10th..

He threw a quality shot and got tapped.. Tough break for Wes, but he will be back. He is still the hottest player on tour right now..








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Re: Another patented Chris Barnes mental breakdown...
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2008, 07:40:27 AM »
Guys make no mistake about it, those first two shots in the championship match were thrown out of the window. He was not trying to stay ahead of transition at all, they were just really poor shots. By the time he recovered from those two shots and starting throwing it well again, the spot really started to burn up and he was in deep trouble. Frankly, I think the first two shots of the match lost him that title. It caused a huge misstep in his keeping up with lane transition, which is really tough to begin with under the TV lights.
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Re: Another patented Chris Barnes mental breakdown...
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2008, 07:43:35 AM »
at least he stayed behind the line.
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Re: Another patented Chris Barnes mental breakdown...
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2008, 09:35:04 AM »
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He was lost from his rhythm, he was in sync the whole first game, and then he pitches out 2 shots wide and missed a ten pin


Not sure about losing rhythm, but I agree that it looked like he missed the first two shots wide. Then his next two shots were closer to where he wanted them and found that he couldn't play there because the lane was transitioning. His second shot on the left lane over reacted by quite a large margin and the adjustment he made on his 5th shot (on the right lane) wasn't enough. By then, he's down to trying to win the game in 5 frames and overcome a missed single pin spare.

In the same situation, when my second shot on the left lane seemed to hook way too much, I wouldn't necessarily give my next shot (the third shot on the right lane) extra room. In tournament play, you learn pretty quickly to treat each lane on a pair separately or suffer the consequences. You could see by his body language that Wes liked his second shot on the left lane, but he probably just didn't realize the lane had broken down that much. He moves back to the right and ... uh-oh, it broke down as much there too.

My fellow league bowlers often give me crap or tease me because I will often get upset over a poorly-executed shot that results in a strike (thanks lane man). What happened to Wes is a great example of why that upsets me.  If you're a tournament bowler and make it into single game match play and execute poorly on your first two shots while the lanes are transitioning, you're now even further behind in the necessary adjustments and you've just given your opponent a 2-frame handicap.

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Re: Another patented Chris Barnes mental breakdown...
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2008, 09:44:13 AM »
I think part of it was overconfidence after shooting 290 the first game.  Whiffing the 10 pin basically cost him the game and he missed because he was still thinking about the first one when he shot the spare.  Unfortunately, Wes has a nasty habit of ringing a 10 when he needs a strike in the 10th as well, that's the 3rd time I've seen it in the past 2 yrs.
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Re: Another patented Chris Barnes mental breakdown...
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2008, 10:33:23 AM »
How does ringing a 10 pin have anything to do with Wes?? The shot yesterday was pure and the 10 pin just happened.. he threw the ball the best he could..



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I think part of it was overconfidence after shooting 290 the first game.  Whiffing the 10 pin basically cost him the game and he missed because he was still thinking about the first one when he shot the spare.  Unfortunately, Wes has a nasty habit of ringing a 10 when he needs a strike in the 10th as well, that's the 3rd time I've seen it in the past 2 yrs.

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Re: Another patented Chris Barnes mental breakdown...
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2008, 10:37:18 AM »
10 PINS SHOULD BE AUTOMATIC FOR A PROFESSIONAL BOWLER!



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Re: Another patented Chris Barnes mental breakdown...
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2008, 11:54:20 AM »
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10 PINS SHOULD BE AUTOMATIC FOR A PROFESSIONAL BOWLER!





I would agree that they should make a single pin spare, but even "Dead Eye" Walter Ray Williams missed a ten pin on tv last year.

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Re: Another patented Chris Barnes mental breakdown...
« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2008, 11:59:34 AM »
Nobody makes every single spare they shoot at.  The professionals, as much as we try to forget it, are human and will make mistakes.

I agree, that missed 10 pin probably was the one thing that hurt him the most in that match, but there were other factors.
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