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mumzie

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So why didn't they use plastic in the TQR?
« on: February 18, 2009, 02:07:47 PM »
I noticed that the bowlers in the TQR didn't use plastic to get there...
Thoughts?
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Re: So why didn't they use plastic in the TQR?
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2009, 10:16:33 PM »
Read this in an article linked from the PBA homepage:

 Because all of the exempt players seeded into the main draw of 64 qualified by virtue of their success in tournaments with unlimited bowling ball technology, the event's Tournament Qualifying Round will be contested with normal, unlimited technology (as always, equipment must be PBA product registered), on the traditional Cheetah lane pattern. Another reason for the TQR being a separate tournament not limited to plastic balls is the main draw event will use just one exact replica ball, which is impossible to do in the TQR. Also, if the TQR players' personal plastic balls were the only balls allowed in the TQR, there would be the potential for dramatic inequality from ball to ball.

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Re: So why didn't they use plastic in the TQR?
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2009, 06:11:04 AM »
In the end, I think it's a money issue.  They couldn't afford to give those 50th anniversary plastic balls to everyone, just to have the vast majority go home after 7 games.

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Re: So why didn't they use plastic in the TQR?
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2009, 06:13:34 AM »
they could afford to just choose not to.. you pay 250 to 300 to bowl the tqr anyway.. atleast it would be 2 good souvenirs for what you are paying to bowl..

what do you think cost is on those 2 plastic balls

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Re: So why didn't they use plastic in the TQR?
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2009, 06:21:42 AM »
Does anyone know?

Which manufacturer is providing the balls for the tournament, I read that all participants have to use the same plastic ball. also, are they allowed to alter the surface of the ball?
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Re: So why didn't they use plastic in the TQR?
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2009, 06:34:33 AM »
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Does anyone know?

Which manufacturer is providing the balls for the tournament, I read that all participants have to use the same plastic ball. also, are they allowed to alter the surface of the ball?
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Yes, they can alter surfaces, and I believe someone (Jeff Carter maybe?) said that the balls are the same as the Ebonite Maxims, just with different colors and logos.
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Re: So why didn't they use plastic in the TQR?
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2009, 06:50:59 AM »
I thought they couldn't alter the surfaces. and they got only 2 balls for the tourney
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Re: So why didn't they use plastic in the TQR?
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2009, 06:56:53 AM »
I would have thought they were visa-a-balls with the 50th anniversary logo or maybe Geico logo on each ball. But other companies may now have the technology.

If you give the balls away in the TQR it reduces the amount of prize money available in the TQR. There would have also been the logistics problem of drilling up 100+ balls for the TQR participants.

They are giving 2 per bowler in the round of 64 with some others available for purchase if the bowlers want more. The probably had a limited production run made, with that the cost per ball would be higher than normal plastic.

I believe Brunswick used to have a 500 limit on the custom visa-a-balls and then the cost was around $50 each.
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Re: So why didn't they use plastic in the TQR?
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2009, 06:58:10 AM »
A couple guys I drill for made it out of the TQR.  They were given 2 balls right away after the TQR.  The balls are made by Ebonite and only have the CG marking that Ebonite has on all of their balls, and the 50th anniversary logo.  These are great looking balls!  After the practice session last night, they have the option of drilling another if needed.  They are allowed to make surface alterations.  The only thing they couldn't do is take the balls with them out of the bowling center.
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Re: So why didn't they use plastic in the TQR?
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2009, 06:59:18 AM »
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I thought they couldn't alter the surfaces. and they got only 2 balls for the tourney
Wrong on both counts.  As written on the PBA's website:

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Players will be granted the same rules for drilling options and surface manipulation of the bowling balls as they are typical weeks, meaning that while the balls will be identical in composition and color, there will be the opportunity for diversity of ball reaction. While the players will be given two plastic balls initially, they will have the option of drilling more than two over the course of the event. The players will not be permitted to take the plastic balls out of the bowling center.
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Re: So why didn't they use plastic in the TQR?
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2009, 09:45:59 AM »
If the TQR would have been plastic only, I would have made the trip. I could have flown with a 2-ball tote, plastic balls and shoes. I wasn't going to fly with 8-10 balls just to qualify and leave all 10 in the paddock all week.

I have had the ball they are using now for a month, they ordered waaaaay too many and had more than enough for each TQR entrant to buy one. When I got mine, I was told they needed to get rid of them, they were literally giving them away in bulk. They gave me 2 of them and I'm not even an exempt bowler.

It doesn't make a lot of sense to me to have a TQR with normal equipment for a PLASTIC ONLY event. Whatever...
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Re: So why didn't they use plastic in the TQR?
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2009, 09:58:14 AM »
Before the season started, I asked Tom Clark why this was the case. His explanation to me was that the exempt bowlers qualified for their spots via "normal" (i.e., multiple reactive resins balls) bowling. For this reason, the TQR bowlers should qualify for the event the same way... and then everyone should compete with plastic balls. Basically, he was trying to explain that the qualifying rules should not necessarily change just because the format of the event is different -- the PBA wants the same kind of perceived quality advancing from TQRs ("the world's best bowlers), not just a guy that gets lucky with a plastic ball or a specialist.
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Re: So why didn't they use plastic in the TQR?
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2009, 10:57:02 AM »
I wonder how confusing it is to find the right ball on the rack...
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