Post by: LuckyLefty on November 20, 2005, 04:08:25 PM
From "gutter", to "foul" these drunks were just tasteless!!!
I've hated watching Drunks at golfs Phoenix open try to yell right at the moment of impact in golf!
Thsi was takier!
He really looked great with both his ball reaction and how fast...and smooth,... and how he got strong clean revs....like every shot!
REgards,
Luckylefty
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Post by: PJM300 on November 21, 2005, 05:06:50 AM
Kind of a low blow or pompous remark in my opinion
Post by: azguy on November 21, 2005, 05:20:43 AM
Gotta give him his 'atta boy' for the win, but not sure that was a comment worth making on TV. JMO
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Post by: Jeffrevs on November 21, 2005, 05:52:05 AM
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I was rooting for him until he made the remark, I shot that like a league bowler....
Kind of a low blow or pompous remark in my opinion
Yep.....I agree here Pete! That hacked me off too!! And ...didn't he say after one of his strikes....RIGHT BEFORE HE OPENED...didn't he say .."no one can beat that?!" what does THAT mean ?!
I look at him differently now........rubbed me the wrong way.
Great win, ...no doubt....but........
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Post by: anotherwindup on November 21, 2005, 05:58:24 AM
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Post by: scotts33 on November 21, 2005, 06:01:53 AM
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For scroggins at the end...some classless fans.
From "gutter", to "foul" these drunks were just tasteless!!!
I've hated watching Drunks at golfs Phoenix open try to yell right at the moment of impact in golf!
Thsi was takier!
He really looked great with both his ball reaction and how fast...and smooth,... and how he got strong clean revs....like every shot!
REgards,
Luckylefty
Sorry, I didn't hear that LL.
About Scroggins comments.....what do most expect when they mic these guys? I really doubt Mike S. actually meant much by either statement. I think, he was coming down on himself for making a lousy release/shot.
Most get to caught up in this stuff. Results are Scroggins won. Now if Duke had made the right ball choice to start Duke might have won.
I'd like to hear what NFL, NBA, PGA players say if they were mic'ed. Sheesh...........couldn't be aired as it's a family show.
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Post by: LuckyLefty on November 21, 2005, 09:11:54 AM
He responded "No way Jose"...."I'm going straight down the middle".
Clearly some one said "gutter it".
Next he said...."Oh no...I'm throwin right from here" and he demonstrated the throw from 5 feet back of line!
Someone said "then foul".
Didn't have to hear either comment to KNOW what was said. Right?
Tasteless!
REgards,
Luckylefty
PS I didn't like league bowler comment either ....but he was just throwin it SOOO SOOOO good. That is what he meant by "You can't beat that". The shot was NOT as easy as he made it look! The other lefties showed that(ARt Brown thru the ball very well and could barely break 200!
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Post by: Gene J Kanak on November 21, 2005, 09:19:08 AM
As for the "no one can beat that" remark, I thought that came after a shot that struck despite a poor release. I think he just meant, hey, if I'm going to find and blast the pocket on a poor shot, there's no way I'm going to lose. I know that I've mumbled similar things to myself during league. I don't think it was directed toward Norm. I think he just knew that he had too good a ball reaction to lose. Of course, I could be wrong.
In any case, kudos to Scroggins for winning his first major. You don't have to like what he said, but you do have to give him props for hanging on and winning the big one.
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Post by: Koabzilla on November 21, 2005, 09:20:00 AM
No respect for him ever again.
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Post by: Cbjdc on November 21, 2005, 09:23:37 AM
But I would like to know is when are they going to take the extra technology out of peterson's and ryans hands. They were going nuts with that stromotion.
And my favorit one. Ryan saying that a unfamiliar format refering to the step ladder formate. WHAT A JOKE.
Post by: shelley on November 21, 2005, 09:31:28 AM
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And my favorit one. Ryan saying that a unfamiliar format refering to the step ladder formate. WHAT A JOKE.
It's unfamiliar because they dropped it before Dave Ryan started announcing. Before Dave Ryan, bowling hardly existed at all. It certainly wasn't worth watching.
SH
Post by: LuckyLefty on November 21, 2005, 09:32:21 AM
It was so pure ...so clean so balanced with a ton of not easily seen revs....Like butter off the hand and a steamroller at the pins!
He knew at that point he almost couldn't be beat.
REgards,
Luckylefty
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Post by: scotts33 on November 21, 2005, 09:32:47 AM
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You didn't have to hear it.
He responded "No way Jose"...."I'm going straight down the middle".
Clearly some one said "gutter it".
Next he said...."Oh no...I'm throwin right from here" and he demonstrated the throw from 5 feet back of line!
Someone said "then foul".
Didn't have to hear either comment to KNOW what was said. Right?
Tasteless!
REgards,
Luckylefty
I still don't understand how you know what was said LL. You weren't there and you couldn't hear it so you are jumping to conclusions. All pros throw it down the middle when they need a few pins on the fill ball. He was playing up to the crowd.
BTW--Duke during qualifying almost tied Art Brown because he did the same thing on the fill ball needed 7 pins and threw it down the middle. Almost left a 4,6,7,10. 10 fell out at the last second to win by 1 pin.
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As for the "no one can beat that" remark, I thought that came after a shot that struck despite a poor release. I think he just meant, hey, if I'm going to find and blast the pocket on a poor shot, there's no way I'm going to lose. I know that I've mumbled similar things to myself during league. I don't think it was directed toward Norm. I think he just knew that he had too good a ball reaction to lose. Of course, I could be wrong.
Agree with you Gene...all this stuff Mike is accused of is more like he was putting himself down NOT the other way around.
Congratulate the guy and let it go.....he won. He and Rick Lawerence aren't the prettiest bowlers out there but they've made a lot of shows the past year or so.
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Post by: cgilyeat on November 21, 2005, 09:37:59 AM
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To valegand and crazychuck
you guys need to lighten up! It was meant as a joke. I say that all the time when I throw a bad shot and I get away with a strike. I'm sorry if I offended anyone with that comment, I guess I should have said "f**k that was a bad shot", I would have taken less heat from that statement.
And to 83 bcgrad,
If a definition of a dork is a guy that makes $100,000.00 dollars throwing a bowling ball, then I'm proud to be a dork.
Mike Scroggins
2005 Masters Champion
Page 2 of the "Shame on You Mike Scroggins" thread in the PBA Tiour Discussion section. I wasn't paying attention to what he said at the time, but it was not a well thrown shot, and it did look like a lot like a lot of stuff you see in leagues. Even if I had of heard it, it would not have bothered me at all.
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Post by: LuckyLefty on November 21, 2005, 09:40:49 AM
He could easily go inside if he wanted to with a little less speed!
Why would he say ....
"I'm going to throw back here...(5 feet from foul line) while looking up into the crowd and clearly responding to them.
Someone said..."We love pancakes"?
REgards,
Luckylefty
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Post by: Amigo2 on November 21, 2005, 09:59:38 AM
How many times have we delivered a really good ball, blown the rack and gotten really pumped up?
Good win for Scroggins
Amigo
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Post by: Platinum Bowler on November 21, 2005, 10:31:01 AM
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Post by: Phillip Marlowe on November 21, 2005, 10:43:09 AM
As to the you can't beat that, I just took it as "that" was the great shot. Which, it was.
Finally, Scroggins deserved the win. He was the most consistent bowler through the week. The Masters format, qualifying and then double elimination is interesting, but it doesn't guarantee the best bowler will win. The matches are too short, and one big game can blow them open. In essence, the shorter three game matches plus the luck of the draw created chance in their essence. Brown and Muscato are fine bowlers, but on a normal tour stop or at the U.S. Open -- which I believe has the best format for identifying the best bowler -- I doubt either would have made it nearly so far. Scroggins and Duke got where they were by bowling great, bowling consistently and by being very lucky. Since luck is such a part of the format, Getting lucky at the right time is part of what is needed to win. Scroggins got the luck at the right time. Duke didn't. It's what happens when you roll imperfectly round things at imperfectly round things over an imperfectly smooth, flat thing and the round things bounce off imperfectly round and flat things.
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Post by: Ragnar on November 21, 2005, 10:53:15 AM
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Post by: LuckyLefty on November 21, 2005, 01:11:45 PM
"Keep it up and I'm sending Randy Pederson up at ya!"
See I could tell on what he was saying what was being said from the stands.
See...I'm smarter than I look!
REgards,
Luckylefty
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Post by: scotts33 on November 21, 2005, 04:11:15 PM
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