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Bowlaholic

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Belmo @WSOB
« on: December 13, 2015, 09:27:03 AM »
Some friends & I were discussing Belmo's less than stellar performance at the current WSOB in Reno.
About half subscribe to the theory that a lot of players are not intimidated by him anymore (especially the newer young players who are coming up on the tour) and the other half think his 2 handed style may be taking it's toll on his body.
I think it may be both.  It's got to be  something as he did not make match play in any of five events.
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World Championship 40
Any thoughts?
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Re: Belmo @WSOB
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2015, 09:38:28 AM »
I think it's the thumb rule, whatever usbc changed eith specs.  No extra weight hole for 2 handers or whatever. Cuz when that went into effect, I saw his performance tank as well.

Also, I feel the manufacturers are lil bit more even in terms of "how" their equipment is. 2008-2013/14 storm/Utah clearly had a massive lead in terms of how good their product is.  Now Brunswick and EBI are making some REALLY great pieces.

Also is motiv still as good as they a season ago? Idk maybe it's just Russell not on fire. 
 
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Re: Belmo @WSOB
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2015, 09:43:46 AM »
Another theory could possibly be the change of venue this year.  The WSOB is not in Vegas, instead having been moved to Reno.  The lane topography is different than what Belmo and the others have seen at South Point the last several years.  That can also play into why he isn't in match play.
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Re: Belmo @WSOB
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2015, 09:47:02 AM »
Those are very good points.  I also noticed Ronnie Russell was really off his game.
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Re: Belmo @WSOB
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2015, 09:52:47 AM »
Or the PBA decides to have their signature event at a place that your ball doesn't react as good as it does at the other place.

or you fly half way around the world and get an untimely sniffle.

or they decide you are no longer gonna be the poster boy for the PBA and they take the ramp away.

It's pretty tough to draw any conclusions when you only bowl for 4 days at the same venue.
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Re: Belmo @WSOB
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2015, 09:55:03 AM »
Quote from: billdozer on December 13, 2015, 09:38:28 AM

Also, I feel the manufacturers are lil bit more even in terms of "how" their equipment is. 2008-2013/14 storm/Utah clearly had a massive lead in terms of how good their product is.  Now Brunswick and EBI are making some REALLY great pieces.

Also is motiv still as good as they a season ago? Idk maybe it's just Russell not on fire. 
 

Both really good points.  EBI and Brunswick really stepped up their game and have some great balls that have been released recently.  900 Global also stepped it up and they're making a good showing so far at the WSOB.  (Their Tour Preferred Series line of balls are designed with Chris Barnes).

Motiv hasn't really changed much in their line since last year, so I'm thinking it's more on Ronnie Russell for the slow start.  The only newer balls since his dominating run last season are the Octane Burn and the soon to be released Jackal Carnage.
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Re: Belmo @WSOB
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2015, 11:35:07 AM »
How do u check what place people finish in all the squads ??? PBA website too confusing for me I can only find single tournaments but not the whole series in one.
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Re: Belmo @WSOB
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2015, 12:12:54 PM »
Quote from: Ken De Beasto on December 13, 2015, 11:35:07 AM
How do u check what place people finish in all the squads ??? PBA website too confusing for me I can only find single tournaments but not the whole series in one.

The whole series in 1 is the world championship
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Re: Belmo @WSOB
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2015, 12:21:55 PM »
When I read posts like this, I wonder to myself if anyone actually follows pro bowling. As far as I know, Belmo still won 2 majors this year and made a few more shows in addition. 

If the patterns transition where everyone is lofting the cap or he can throw hard, he will always be in contention. 

Even in the most recent tournament, I believe he made the qualifiers round.  So even when he bowls not so great he still cashed.   
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Ken De Beasto

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Re: Belmo @WSOB
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2015, 12:38:41 PM »
Quote from: SVstar34 on December 13, 2015, 12:12:54 PM
Quote from: Ken De Beasto on December 13, 2015, 11:35:07 AM
How do u check what place people finish in all the squads ??? PBA website too confusing for me I can only find single tournaments but not the whole series in one.

The whole series in 1 is the world championship
Yea like I click the link for world champ only see a few names. now i don't see any names arghhhh the headache.
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Re: Belmo @WSOB
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2015, 01:53:09 PM »
Because everyone goes through peaks and valleys of performance in bowling.
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Re: Belmo @WSOB
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2015, 02:04:25 PM »
Yea let's go Sean rash cut martin Larsen out of cut.
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Re: Belmo @WSOB
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2015, 04:09:31 PM »
Quote from: billdozer on December 13, 2015, 09:38:28 AM
I think it's the thumb rule, whatever usbc changed eith specs.  No extra weight hole for 2 handers or whatever. Cuz when that went into effect, I saw his performance tank as well.

Does the PBA adopt the USBC rules now?  they didn't used to; for example I seem to recall on the PBA that bowlers could sand specific track lines to a different grit, while the ABC/USBC rules were always that a ball had to be a uniform surface grit/finish
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Re: Belmo @WSOB
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2015, 05:56:27 PM »
Quote from: itsallaboutme on December 13, 2015, 09:52:47 AM
Or the PBA decides to have their signature event at a place that your ball doesn't react as good as it does at the other place.

or you fly half way around the world and get an untimely sniffle.

or they decide you are no longer gonna be the poster boy for the PBA and they take the ramp away.

It's pretty tough to draw any conclusions when you only bowl for 4 days at the same venue.

 
There isn't much more than this….
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HankScorpio

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Re: Belmo @WSOB
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2015, 11:25:00 PM »
Poor week for him, but let's not forget that he probably still wins player of the year unless Ciminelli wins the World Championship. That leads me to believe he just had an off week.
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