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Belmonte
« on: January 21, 2009, 06:06:36 AM »
What happened to Belmonte, I thought he was gonna rip the place up this year? I haven't seen him yet.
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Re: Belmonte
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2009, 03:01:18 PM »
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That's cause he's not bowling on these patterns week in and week out for the past 6 years like the other 40 mainstays on tour.  And if you check bowl.com and some of the results to these overseas tournaments, you will see ALOT of familiar names that you see on PBA.com every week.  I'm not making this up for the sake of arguing with you.  Fact. I'm only going to argue facts.
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Fine.

Please provide links which clearly demonstrate Belmonte's superiority/dominance over the ELITE of the sport.

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Re: Belmonte
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2009, 03:03:42 PM »
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belmonte can makes just as much money not being in the pba.. why do you think a lot of the elite amatuers never turn pro?? I know of 5 personally that are good enough to be a force on the tour..


Really??? Wow, I didn't know that.[/sarcasm off]

I've been around bowling long enough (check my profile) to know a thing or two about the sport, but fall into the "being able to/but having other responsibilities" category.

With that said, for those that choose to bowl for a living, bowling in the PBA is about prestige, credibility and respect.  Just ask Mika Koivuniemi.


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Edited on 1/21/2009 4:01 PM


Well if I had the choice I would pass up presige, credibility and respect any day of the week to make more money.  After all, isn't that the points of doing anything "for a living"?

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Re: Belmonte
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2009, 03:07:24 PM »
Seems to me that once upon a time Tim Mack was winning almost everything in the "amateur" events around the world and was heralded as the next PBA superstar to be. Tim is a very accomplished bowler but hasn't fared so well in his attempts to make it on the PBA Tour.  Therefore it makes me wonder if winning in Europe or anywhere else means you will be successful in the US on the Pro Tour.  As for Belmonte, I say lets wait until he actually does something in the PBA before we crown him the next king of bowling as it seems USBC wants to do.

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Re: Belmonte
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2009, 03:13:25 PM »
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Seems to me that once upon a time Tim Mack was winning almost everything in the "amateur" events around the world and was heralded as the next PBA superstar to be. Tim is a very accomplished bowler but hasn't fared so well in his attempts to make it on the PBA Tour.  Therefore it makes me wonder if winning in Europe or anywhere else means you will be successful in the US on the Pro Tour.  As for Belmonte, I say lets wait until he actually does something in the PBA before we crown him the next king of bowling as it seems USBC wants to do.


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Re: Belmonte
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2009, 03:13:33 PM »
the thing I never got was how some americans had a god complex.. not speaking of you but ins sports. like how some basketball players play in the nba for prestige but could go to europe and make more money.. like our bowling is far above the rest of the world.. personally I don't think its as far ahead as most people think it is.. and our top bowlers still go overseas to bowl in some big events anyway..

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belmonte can makes just as much money not being in the pba.. why do you think a lot of the elite amatuers never turn pro?? I know of 5 personally that are good enough to be a force on the tour..


Really??? Wow, I didn't know that.[/sarcasm off]

I've been around bowling long enough (check my profile) to know a thing or two about the sport, but fall into the "being able to/but having other responsibilities" category.

With that said, for those that choose to bowl for a living, bowling in the PBA is about prestige, credibility and respect.  Just ask Mika Koivuniemi.


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Edited on 1/21/2009 4:01 PM

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Re: Belmonte
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2009, 03:13:44 PM »
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belmonte can makes just as much money not being in the pba.. why do you think a lot of the elite amatuers never turn pro?? I know of 5 personally that are good enough to be a force on the tour..


Really??? Wow, I didn't know that.[/sarcasm off]

I've been around bowling long enough (check my profile) to know a thing or two about the sport, but fall into the "being able to/but having other responsibilities" category.

With that said, for those that choose to bowl for a living, bowling in the PBA is about prestige, credibility and respect.  Just ask Mika Koivuniemi.


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Edited on 1/21/2009 4:01 PM


Well if I had the choice I would pass up presige, credibility and respect any day of the week to make more money.  After all, isn't that the points of doing anything "for a living"?


Same here man.  These people bowling for prestige are out of their minds.  They obviously never saw Pulp Fiction.  

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Re: Belmonte
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2009, 03:16:17 PM »
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belmonte can makes just as much money not being in the pba.. why do you think a lot of the elite amatuers never turn pro?? I know of 5 personally that are good enough to be a force on the tour..


Really??? Wow, I didn't know that.[/sarcasm off]

I've been around bowling long enough (check my profile) to know a thing or two about the sport, but fall into the "being able to/but having other responsibilities" category.

With that said, for those that choose to bowl for a living, bowling in the PBA is about prestige, credibility and respect.  Just ask Mika Koivuniemi.


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Edited on 1/21/2009 4:01 PM


Well if I had the choice I would pass up presige, credibility and respect any day of the week to make more money.  After all, isn't that the points of doing anything "for a living"?


Some of the top bowlers in the world, WRW Jr. for instance, could've done much better had they pursued a "normal" career instead of bowling professionally (Walter is a physics major).  

It is the Love of the sport and the competitive spirit within the true greats that dictate their decisison-making.  

True, there are some that probably would not be making more money in the real world, but the elite make money in other ways as well, i.e. endorsements, easily obtained jobs in the off-season due to their status, etc.
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Re: Belmonte
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2009, 03:18:39 PM »
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belmonte can makes just as much money not being in the pba.. why do you think a lot of the elite amatuers never turn pro?? I know of 5 personally that are good enough to be a force on the tour..


Really??? Wow, I didn't know that.[/sarcasm off]

I've been around bowling long enough (check my profile) to know a thing or two about the sport, but fall into the "being able to/but having other responsibilities" category.

With that said, for those that choose to bowl for a living, bowling in the PBA is about prestige, credibility and respect.  Just ask Mika Koivuniemi.


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BowlingWolf

Edited on 1/21/2009 4:01 PM


Well if I had the choice I would pass up presige, credibility and respect any day of the week to make more money.  After all, isn't that the points of doing anything "for a living"?


Some of the top bowlers in the world, WRW Jr. for instance, could've done much better had they pursued a "normal" career instead of bowling professionally (Walter is a physics major).  

It is the Love of the sport and the competitive spirit within the true greats that dictate their decisison-making.  

True, there are some that probably would not be making more money in the real world, but the elite make money in other ways as well, i.e. endorsements, easily obtained jobs in the off-season due to their status, etc.
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I didn't mean getting a 9 to 5.  I meant if bowling was the choice to make a living I would much rather make more money than prestige, etc.

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Re: Belmonte
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2009, 03:19:32 PM »
Necro,

I've come to believe that you are truly nuts.

For someone who can't pick up a 10 pin, you sure have a lot to say about top-notch bowling.
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Re: Belmonte
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2009, 03:20:43 PM »
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Necro,

I've come to believe that you are truly nuts.

For someone who can't pick up a 10 pin, you sure have a lot to say about top-notch bowling.
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Re: Belmonte
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2009, 03:23:27 PM »
kidjette,

I agree that the first order of business is always to be able to place food on the table, put a roof over your head, and clothe yourself.

But, regarding Belmonte, he is not suffering, and I do believe that if he truly wants to be considered great, he has to play in the PBA, pays his dues, and prove his mettle.

I would not be surprised if he can do it.

What I don't get is those that say that he plays in other countries because he's able to make more money.  When they say this, they are unwittingly amitting that he's not good enough to compete with the big boys.  Instead of propping him up, they are really shooting him down.
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Re: Belmonte
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2009, 03:24:51 PM »
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Necro,

I've come to believe that you are truly nuts.

For someone who can't pick up a 10 pin, you sure have a lot to say about top-notch bowling.
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Re: Belmonte
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2009, 03:28:22 PM »
that's if he wants to be considered great here though..not everywhere..

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kidjette,

I agree that the first order of business is always to be able to place food on the table, put a roof over your head, and clothe yourself.

But, regarding Belmonte, he is not suffering, and I do believe that if he truly wants to be considered great, he has to play in the PBA, pays his dues, and prove his mettle.

I would not be surprised if he can do it.

What I don't get is those that say that he plays in other countries because he's able to make more money.  When they say this, they are unwittingly amitting that he's not good enough to compete with the big boys.  Instead of propping him up, they are really shooting him down.
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Re: Belmonte
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2009, 03:30:25 PM »
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that's if he wants to be considered great here though..not everywhere..

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kidjette,

I agree that the first order of business is always to be able to place food on the table, put a roof over your head, and clothe yourself.

But, regarding Belmonte, he is not suffering, and I do believe that if he truly wants to be considered great, he has to play in the PBA, pays his dues, and prove his mettle.

I would not be surprised if he can do it.

What I don't get is those that say that he plays in other countries because he's able to make more money.  When they say this, they are unwittingly amitting that he's not good enough to compete with the big boys.  Instead of propping him up, they are really shooting him down.
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Re: Belmonte
« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2009, 03:38:35 PM »
you won't see him this week------only pba champions are eligible to compete. that also means no tim mack, or rudy kasimakis, etc.