Post by: revTrex on May 08, 2008, 02:39:18 AM
Alright, guys, here goes:
As I work for BJI, I'm trying to put together a list of the 50 greatest bowlers to NEVER BOWL OR WIN in the PBA. This in response to the PBA putting together a list of the 50 greatest PBA players...
So...what I guess I'm asking you guys to do is just start naming some guys. I've got the obvious ones -- Jimmy Smith, Jimmy Blouin, John "Count" Gengler, Hank Marino, Ned Day -- but I want to hear what you guys think. I know a ton about the pre-PBA years...but not so much about those bowlers who rolled outside the PBA while the PBA was in existence. That means a lot of folks -- the action bowlers, the amateurs, etc. -- might go unnoticed, and I don't want that to happen. I want this list to be as complete as possible, so the more you got, the better it'll be. ON SECOND EDIT: Note that the list has been expanded to include those who never won a title. You can now suggest pros, amateurs, anyone...before the PBA, during the PBA but no longer bowling, current players...etc.
After I compile all the names (from here, from my own research, from talking to other experts, etc.), BJI is going to rank these, just like the PBA is doing. Haven't exactly established how this will happen, but it'll most likely be a panel of experts.
Sound good? Start naming! ON EDIT: If you want, when you post a name, add a little info (where they're from, why they should be on the list) about that bowler. Researching names takes a lot of time...and by providing info, those bowlers you name will have a better chance of making the list!
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Edited on 5/8/2008 4:00 PM
Post by: revTrex on May 08, 2008, 03:38:23 PM
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Post by: lsf_21 on May 08, 2008, 03:47:30 PM
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Post by: revTrex on May 08, 2008, 03:59:36 PM
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Post by: NJStroker on May 08, 2008, 04:00:09 PM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to thinking that if they buy a new ball they will carry everything. And its even funnier when im carrying with my 15 year old ball and they're going flat ten.
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Post by: pegleg42090 on May 08, 2008, 04:09:53 PM
Post by: revTrex on May 08, 2008, 04:56:25 PM
1. Count Gengler
2. Jimmy Smith
3. Hank Marino
4. Andy Varipapa
5. Jimmy Blouin
6. Jason Belmonte
7. Osku Palermaa
8. Tim Mack
9. Richie Wolfe
10. Brad Angelo
11. Paul Moor
12. Derek Eoff
13. Bill Hoffman
14. David O’Sullivan
15. Jeff Carter
16. Bob Purzycki
17. Jeff Klein
18. Buddy Bomar
19. Ned Day
20. Joe Falcaro
21. Joe Scribner
22. Joe Norris
23. Richie Hornreich
24. Rudy Kasimakis
25. Steve Nagy
26. Jeff Kidder
27. Graz Castellano
28. Lindy Faragalli
29. Therm Gibson
30. Ed Kawolics
31. Junie McMahon
32. Joe Wilman
33. Nelson Burton, Sr.
34. Alfie Cohn
35. Allie Brandt
36. Adolph Carlson
37. John Crimmins
38. Frank Kartheiser
39. Fred Bujack
40. Mike Rose, Jr.
41. Jeff Richgels
42. John Socha
43. Joe Jimenez
44. John Delp III
45. John Chacko Jr.
46. John Voorhies
47. Frank Thoma
48. Mort Lindsey
49. Harry Steers
50. Harry Cohn
51. Otto Stein Jr.
52. Charley Daw
53. Jim Spalding
54. Rich Wonders
55. Tore Torgensen
56. Paeng Nepomuceno
Keep 'em coming, and give me your thoughts on the above names. Like one of them? Tell me. Hate one of them? Tell me. Provide reasons, too!
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Post by: cjh2839 on May 08, 2008, 05:04:03 PM
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Post by: AdrianS on May 09, 2008, 04:37:54 AM
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Time for some REAL bowling!!!
Post by: Brian Green on May 09, 2008, 07:25:47 AM
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Post by: revTrex on May 09, 2008, 09:24:47 AM
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Gil Sliker and Joe Firpo. They have one doubles title each, but no singles title.
Alas, the doubles title eliminates them. I know -- it's frustrating.
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Post by: pop_1 on May 09, 2008, 10:00:56 AM
JD Santalucia
Rory Kalaquin
Sean Riccardi
Post by: leftehh- LG on May 09, 2008, 10:13:00 AM
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Derek Eoff, Matt O'Grady, Jason Belmonte, Osku Palermaa, Paul Moor.
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to thinking that if they buy a new ball they will carry everything. And its even funnier when im carrying with my 15 year old ball and they're going flat ten.
lawls matt o'grady ?
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Post by: I Flush 8s on May 09, 2008, 01:45:48 PM
Edited on 5/9/2008 1:46 PM
Post by: tenpin477 on May 09, 2008, 03:27:37 PM
The kid is an amazing talent though, don't get me wrong, I wish I was that good.
Post by: microfiber on May 09, 2008, 03:29:00 PM
David Haynes- Multiple Team USA apperances, Mega Buck winner
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Post by: BowlingWolf on May 09, 2008, 04:16:22 PM
As a young man, no one was able to dominate the game like Andy. Here's a glimpse of how good he was as he aged:
"In 1946, at the age of 55 he won the prestigious All-Star competition in a grueling 100 game format, making him the oldest winner ever.
He became the first to win two years in a row when he repeated in 1947 in spite of a dramatic comeback by Joe Wilman.
Mr. Varipapa lived to be 93 years old and was an active bowler well into old age.
At the age of 78, he taught himself to bowl left-handed, as his right hand was giving him difficulties and within two years he averaged 180, a testament to his awesome skills and longevity."
Legendary.
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Post by: Locke on May 09, 2008, 04:21:44 PM
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Post by: mrbowlingnut on May 09, 2008, 04:31:09 PM
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Lynda Barnes? One of the best female bowlers ever.
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Post by: Locke on May 09, 2008, 04:37:25 PM
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Post by: BiGtYmEr300 on May 09, 2008, 05:52:32 PM
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What the Deuce?!!
Post by: BowlingWolf on May 09, 2008, 08:02:04 PM
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Post by: BowlingWolf on May 10, 2008, 06:00:07 PM
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Didnt Varipapa. "the clown prince of bowling" win the U.S. Open? I may be wrong but I believe he did win a PBA title.
He won it won it 2 years in a row, finished 2nd on his last try, before the PBA came into existence (its inception was in 1958).
And that was back when it was a grueling 100 game event, and he was already in his mid-fifties (the format was later modified and the event would become the US Open, still to this day the hardest event out there, but even more so back then).
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Edited on 5/10/2008 6:02 PM
Post by: tenpin477 on May 12, 2008, 12:36:23 PM
Post by: revTrex on May 12, 2008, 01:18:53 PM
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Post by: dzrtrnr on May 12, 2008, 03:40:28 PM
Post by: laddog54 on May 12, 2008, 05:11:26 PM
Sr still ave around 200 and Jr 220 just bowling one league a week. He could have won a tile but quit bowling for years. Don't know exactly why but just got tired of the way bowling was being run.
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Post by: charlest on May 13, 2008, 05:23:40 AM
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THE Greatest Bowler to never have one an official PBA title, and quite likely The Greatest Bowler of all time, is the one that people think of only as the greatest trick shot artist of all time: Andy Varipapa.
Legendary.
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I agree. Andy Varipapa is a must for this list.
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Post by: charlest on May 13, 2008, 05:26:29 AM
You don't mean "Jose Jimenez"?
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Post by: Jorge300 on May 13, 2008, 09:14:33 AM
On a side note: I bowled with Tim in college at Penn State, he was incredible back then even. And it was none other then Smack himself who gave yours truly the nickname that adorns my screenname.
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Post by: CharlieBrown on May 14, 2008, 07:25:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moHDv_kY0yM
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Post by: gbrown on May 15, 2008, 06:41:22 PM
Post by: DON DRAPER on May 17, 2008, 10:09:19 PM
Post by: tenpin477 on May 17, 2008, 11:52:32 PM
Post by: Dean Richards on May 28, 2008, 09:42:31 PM
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Post by: Rev_O on May 28, 2008, 09:50:50 PM
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Update...here's a list I've compiled thus far:
1. Count Gengler
2. Jimmy Smith
3. Hank Marino
4. Andy Varipapa
5. Jimmy Blouin
6. Jason Belmonte
7. Osku Palermaa
8. Tim Mack
9. Richie Wolfe
10. Brad Angelo
11. Paul Moor
12. Derek Eoff
13. Bill Hoffman
14. David O’Sullivan
15. Jeff Carter
16. Bob Purzycki
17. Jeff Klein
18. Buddy Bomar
19. Ned Day
20. Joe Falcaro
21. Joe Scribner
22. Joe Norris
23. Richie Hornreich
24. Rudy Kasimakis
25. Steve Nagy
26. Jeff Kidder
27. Graz Castellano
28. Lindy Faragalli
29. Therm Gibson
30. Ed Kawolics
31. Junie McMahon
32. Joe Wilman
33. Nelson Burton, Sr.
34. Alfie Cohn
35. Allie Brandt
36. Adolph Carlson
37. John Crimmins
38. Frank Kartheiser
39. Fred Bujack
40. Mike Rose, Jr.
41. Jeff Richgels
42. John Socha
43. Joe Jimenez
44. John Delp III
45. John Chacko Jr.
46. John Voorhies
47. Frank Thoma
48. Mort Lindsey
49. Harry Steers
50. Harry Cohn
51. Otto Stein Jr.
52. Charley Daw
53. Jim Spalding
54. Rich Wonders
55. Tore Torgensen
56. Paeng Nepomuceno
Keep 'em coming, and give me your thoughts on the above names. Like one of them? Tell me. Hate one of them? Tell me. Provide reasons, too!
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Awesome, I'm #25 on your list!!
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