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Title: Bill Simmons..
Post by: 10 In The Pit Pro Shop on January 31, 2010, 03:10:24 AM
Is it just me or this guy super annoying?
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: BadShot on January 31, 2010, 11:11:28 AM
he's aggravating the heck outta me, mr. 10 in the pit!! gag!!
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: 10 In The Pit Pro Shop on January 31, 2010, 11:12:11 AM
haha! :-)
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: strikecing on January 31, 2010, 11:18:35 AM
He is pissing me off!!! And I dont think Randy is very happy he is there...
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: mrteach3 on January 31, 2010, 11:19:44 AM
I have never been a big Randy Pederson fan, but I really feel sorry for him today.   It has to be annoying.
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: 10 In The Pit Pro Shop on January 31, 2010, 11:23:08 AM
yeah.. I'm not a big randy fan either, but this guy is a complete D bag
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: Juggernaut on January 31, 2010, 11:27:55 AM
I think they put him there to make people appreciate Mr. Stone a little more than before. Kind of like a "See, it could be this bad" thing.
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: n00dlejester on January 31, 2010, 11:53:17 AM
I am digging how annoying this guy is lol.

This is a very entertaining show.  PDW is a man on a mission, and calling fools out for cameras lol.  I love it.
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: BadShot on January 31, 2010, 12:02:24 PM
fortunately i've muted the broadcast and can't hear his obnoxious commentary anymore . . . i can only hope they'll pan over to a shot of randy beating the guy to a pulp!!
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on January 31, 2010, 12:12:38 PM
....Richard Simmons' husband as far as I'm concerned. I'm crafting a resume' right now for next week's telecast.  That is of course, after 30 minutes of research on the sport. F&%$K You, ESPN.
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: completebowler on January 31, 2010, 12:17:18 PM
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....Richard Simmons' husband as far as I'm concerned. I'm crafting a resume' right now for next week's telecast.  That is of course, after 30 minutes of research on the sport. F&%$K You, ESPN.
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+1......fvcking ESPN is killing the PBA....did you see the promo's for next week? It is getting ridiculous.

I liked the new Storm commercial though....it seems to me that the ball companies should be putting more ads together and buying air time.
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: ctwings10 on January 31, 2010, 12:35:44 PM
What bowlers may not get is that Bill Simmons has a large built in ESPN audience.  He fully admits that he's not a bowler and isn't trying to act like he knows the game, or trying to overpower Randy.  If you read his columns or listen to his podcast, he's actually a bit low key on the broadcast.

I find nothing wrong with bringing in some different personalities that might bring in a different audience.  As both a bowling fan and someone who reads his columns, I thought it was fine for a one-time affair.
Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: Thunder835 on January 31, 2010, 12:56:18 PM
This guy is an idiot. It's bad enough the PBA/bowling is a joke to anyone and everyone except us who really care about our sport. Now they bring this guy in and have him just completely degrade our sport. Go write something about Bill Russell, you JACKASS!
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: iowalefty on January 31, 2010, 01:26:51 PM
i was fine with bill simmons on today.  so what if he doesnt know bowling that well? he's a CASUAL at best bowler..ya know, like 95% of the population.  ctwings said it best, he has a large following.  although i am sure he was cued in on randy's worst break of bowling on you tube, at least he took the time to watch it.  

if we are going to villify bill simmons, and by extension his followers, and by further extension casual couple times per year bowlers, then bowling as a SPORT really will die.

let the sports guy get kelly kulick on his podcast, or write an article about her, and maybe another avenue for growing the SPORT of bowling is opened.
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: strikecing on January 31, 2010, 02:09:55 PM
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: Bill Thomas on January 31, 2010, 02:10:55 PM
I can't honestly fathom why they put the guy on the telecast.  He added nothing and as is obvious from the above posts irritated a lot of people.

I too thought the Storm commercial was great.
Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: bolngod on January 31, 2010, 02:16:40 PM
Randy is not a bad color guy. At least he has been there done that. The S and S comedy tour should go by the wayside. To watch Stone giggle like a little school girl when Randy said "high hard one." Seriously.... It's frustrating that Joe Q. Public thinks he can beat a pro by watching a tour telecast and they really don't know any different.
Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: renaissanceman517kak on January 31, 2010, 02:32:49 PM
You guys need to get over yourselves...
Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: JessN16 on January 31, 2010, 03:42:20 PM
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Nobody outside of this community knows who Mike J Laneside is.

I don't know why the comments continue to roll in, because it's already been mentioned twice in the thread -- the PBA did this because Bill Simmons has an audience somewhere else. They're trying to bring that audience to bowling. Simmons gets incredible amounts of traffic on ESPN.com and his other ventures and it's likely more than a few people tuned in today to hear him and couldn't care less about the bowling.

If the objective is to increase audience numbers, this is the kind of thing you do. No, you don't bring Bill Simmons on to cater to the hardcore bowling audience. I think that should tell you what you need to know right there: ESPN is focusing on trying to grow the sport. If it pi**es off a bunch of hardcore bowlers, they don't care, because making the hardcores happy isn't going to grow the audience. Non-bowlers don't tune into the telecast to hear pithy banter about a sport they don't know much about.

As for the media buzz following Kulick, Stone mentioned they tried to get her on the show today and she had something else to do. She kind of took herself out of the picture, sounds like.

Jess
Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: Uncle Crusty on January 31, 2010, 03:56:16 PM
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You guys need to get over yourselves...


+1,000,000

I can't wait for the day when people are just happy bowling still has a TV slot instead of crying about every slip of the tongue, cstchphrase that isn't "pure," special guest in the booth, etc. If you guys expect the PBA telecast to cater to just hardcore bowlers and include nothing but technical analysis, you clearly don't realize that ratings come from casual bowlers and non-bowlers. Simmons is hilarious (I'm from New England, so I'm biased), and I'd much rather listen to some guy crack jokes and improve ratings than listen to two stiffs talk about thumb pitches and ball surfaces and PAPs for 90 straight minutes.
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: ctturtle on January 31, 2010, 04:00:36 PM
I didn't mind that Bill was on the telecast. I mostly watch to see what equipment is being used and how the Pros play the lanes and make their moves. Randy does a pretty good job at explaining the technical side. Rob tries to add some humor. Overall it isn't like when Chris Schenkel or Bo Burton were doing it but, it's OK. (My opinion)

I have enjoyed seeing some new faces make the telecasts and win. Nice job today Michael Fagan.
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: ebo4life on January 31, 2010, 04:05:00 PM
But calling Walter Ray a Power bowler?????
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: Uncle Crusty on January 31, 2010, 04:10:45 PM
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But calling Walter Ray a Power bowler?????


So? Did that bother you that much? The world knows he's not a bowler, he was there for entertainment. And if you could see through every nitpicky mistake and error, you'd see that he was entertaining.
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: renaissanceman517kak on January 31, 2010, 04:38:31 PM
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But calling Walter Ray a Power bowler?????
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: ebo4life on January 31, 2010, 04:47:23 PM
lol Thought it was humorous thats all--Im a new Englander too so I know where u come from and I was rooting for him to know his stuff but oh well
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: DOconTEX on January 31, 2010, 04:47:25 PM
Looking at the promos for NO, I don't think I will watch live.  I HATE celebrity events.  Don't watch celebrity golf or celebrity bowling.  What they showed in the promo with Chris Paul sliding down the lane is just stupid.  

Other than that, hated to see PDW crash and burn in the tournament named after his dad.
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: wphill02 on January 31, 2010, 05:58:59 PM
While I agree Simmons doesn't know a lot about bowling, it's nice to have a big sports personality that will actually go to a tournament and sit in the booth.  Jim Rome uses his show to personally attack bowling yet Simmons actually comes on trying to help the sport and you guys all bash him.  He even had Stone on his podcast on ESPN and they talked bowling for 15 minutes.  

Also, it was Stone's idea for Simmons not to do any homework on his podcast.  Simmons said there were two ways he could go, either study really hard for the broadcast or since he was the 3rd person in the booth, go in cold and ask randy questions that someone that isn't a serious bowler would be asking.  Stone told him it would be better to go in cold and ask questions so don't put all the blame on Simmons.  At least he did something for bowling which is a lot more than most others.
Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: Motogp69 on January 31, 2010, 06:00:18 PM
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Is it just me or this guy super annoying?
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A waste of air. I prefer Stone and Pederson by themselves or another bowler in the booth.
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: NeverLearn on January 31, 2010, 06:23:03 PM
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But calling Walter Ray a Power bowler?????


So? Did that bother you that much? The world knows he's not a bowler, he was there for entertainment. And if you could see through every nitpicky mistake and error, you'd see that he was entertaining.
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but the people who tuned in to see "Bill Simmons" and trust his judgment, do not know that!
Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: completebowler on January 31, 2010, 06:23:35 PM
You guys that say so what are missing the point. Football has tried this gimmick with Miller and Kornheiser....it has failed.

When I tune into a sporting event I want to hear intelligent and insightful commentary. Not guys yucking it up being stupid.

Now if you can accomplish both then great but I turn bowling on to see bowling...not some half-azzed comedy act.

Whatever happened to Duke, Voss, or Barnes as the third booth man? Those shows were great.
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: NeverLearn on January 31, 2010, 06:25:14 PM
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While I agree Simmons doesn't know a lot about bowling, it's nice to have a big sports personality that will actually go to a tournament and sit in the booth.  Jim Rome uses his show to personally attack bowling yet Simmons actually comes on trying to help the sport and you guys all bash him.  He even had Stone on his podcast on ESPN and they talked bowling for 15 minutes.  



Ignorance causes as much if not more problems than intentional lyng.

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Also, it was Stone's idea for Simmons not to do any homework on his podcast.  Simmons said there were two ways he could go, either study really hard for the broadcast or since he was the 3rd person in the booth, go in cold and ask randy questions that someone that isn't a serious bowler would be asking.  Stone told him it would be better to go in cold and ask questions so don't put all the blame on Simmons.  At least he did something for bowling which is a lot more than most others.


And it's taken Stone, what 5 years, to accumulate the least tidbit of bowling knowledge?

Damage done.
Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on January 31, 2010, 06:29:39 PM
Okay, so you hated him. I tuned in just in time to see the last frame of the title match.

What was Michael Fagan throwing?

I am "assuming" it was the Mission however with the Ebonite site having the worst graphics around it is hard to tell from their ball graphic. Then too, Ebonite doesn''t seem to be a big seller in my area so I have never seen most of their stuff in person.

Thanks

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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: RadioActive on January 31, 2010, 06:30:35 PM
I turned it off after DA Stone asked BS to make up a new term for a 5 bagger! Just what we need another non bowler making up something for knownothing to yell after they carry their 5 lucky noseshot in a row.
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: Spider Man on January 31, 2010, 06:43:11 PM
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You guys need to get over yourselves...




B/c Ludacris is in the booth next week? I doubt I even watch that pile of douche next week.
Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: Spider Man on January 31, 2010, 06:46:18 PM
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Nobody outside of this community knows who Mike J Laneside is.

I don't know why the comments continue to roll in, because it's already been mentioned twice in the thread -- the PBA did this because Bill Simmons has an audience somewhere else. They're trying to bring that audience to bowling. Simmons gets incredible amounts of traffic on ESPN.com and his other ventures and it's likely more than a few people tuned in today to hear him and couldn't care less about the bowling.



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It would have made more sense to have Kenny Mayne, since he did the Detroit documentary.
Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: Boos on January 31, 2010, 06:50:14 PM
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I can't wait for the day when people are just happy bowling still has a TV slot instead of crying about every slip of the tongue,

We are happy but for gods sake get a commentator with Randy
Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: Crankenstein300 on January 31, 2010, 09:26:40 PM
A bunch of people got their panties in a twist last year over the Chris Paul tournament, and it looks like next week's telecast will be the same.

So I will be the first to say: Get over yourselves

This event is for Chris Paul's foundation, and raising money and awareness for that. So who cares if they go out and screw around. I find Ludacris to be a strange addition, but maybe Paul knows him.

But either way, the show won't be about execution of bowling so take it for what it is.

As for today's show, I like Simmon's ESPN material, but I think this was a failed experiment. It may have been ESPN's idea and the PBA did it for them or the PBA's motto of any kind of press is good press might have convinced them this was a good idea, but they never should have kept him on the entire show in the booth.
Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: The Stroke on February 01, 2010, 09:35:45 AM
You know what I can't believe?  All the BR allstars putting him down.  What did you expect from a guy who probably knows little about our sport?  He was there for entertainemnt's sake and maybe draw some different fans in.  You BR "keyboard pounders" really crack me up.
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: CPA on February 01, 2010, 10:20:36 AM
I did not enjoy Bill Simmons and his attempt at commentating on a PBA telecast.  He reminded me of Tony Kornheiser on Monday Night Football.  Neither one added anything to the telecast.
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Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: Spider Man on February 01, 2010, 10:22:38 AM
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I did not enjoy Bill Simmons and his attempt at commentating on a PBA telecast.  He reminded me of Tony Kornheiser on Monday Night Football.  Neither one added anything to the telecast.
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At least he didn't remind anyone of Jim Rome.
Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: renaissanceman517kak on February 01, 2010, 10:34:24 AM
If there's one thing I have learned on this site, is that there can truly be snobs for any endeavor and activity on earth...you guys remind me of  Paul Giamatti's wine snob character in "Sideways"
Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: c102 on February 01, 2010, 02:15:12 PM
The tour telecasts are really becoming a pathitic joke the fans acting like a bunch of fags with the celebrity faces on a stick, ham bone signs, dicks like that Bill simmions asking why the guys were kissing their bowling ball...I watched 1 finals show this year because it is f'in gay anymore and that was this weekend what a bad week to pick only watched because PW made the show.
Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: Spider Man on February 01, 2010, 02:20:29 PM
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The tour telecasts are really becoming a pathitic joke the fans acting like a bunch of fags with the celebrity faces on a stick, ham bone signs, dicks like that Bill simmions asking why the guys were kissing their bowling ball...I watched 1 finals show this year because it is f'in gay anymore and that was this weekend what a bad week to pick only watched because PW made the show.





Yes! What was the point behind Brad Pitt's head on a stick??
Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: Spider Man on February 01, 2010, 02:23:29 PM
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If there's one thing I have learned on this site, is that there can truly be snobs for any endeavor and activity on earth...you guys remind me of  Paul Giamatti's wine snob character in "Sideways"




Snobs? Really? Maybe some of us don't want the sport turned into a mockery by jim rome wannabe's, but god forbid we voice our thoughts. so sorry. Not!
Title: Re: Bill Simmons..
Post by: renaissanceman517kak on February 01, 2010, 02:30:05 PM
Yup snobs...how dare anyone but the ultimate expert in bowling disgrace the hallowed grounds of the PBA broadcasting booth...

snobs...