Post by: cjh2839 on December 17, 2007, 06:16:18 AM
--------------------
BOWL NC TOUGHSHOTS TOUR
AIM- cjh7125
Edited on 12/17/2007 3:17 PM
Post by: KDawg77 on December 17, 2007, 02:17:19 PM
--------------------
Ken
Sometimes you are the cheetah and sometimes you are the stick...
Videos at http://www.putfile.come/k-dawg77
http://www.myspace.com/lefthandedhammerpride
http://khlthe2nd.bowlspace.com
http://members.bowl.com/FindAMember/memberView.aspx?mp=418&ms=2006&s=2006-2007
Post by: Spike2112 on December 17, 2007, 07:19:35 PM
Spike
Post by: Brandon Riley on December 17, 2007, 07:34:26 PM
He looked so nervous and indecisive, and his body language was nothing like it was on the previous show. He seemed so much more focused against Angelo and Couch, and appeared that something was really bothering him yesterday
--------------------
Brandon Riley
Post by: BrooklynSlop on December 17, 2007, 07:36:00 PM
quote:
Im interested to hear billy's comments on his blog.
He looked so nervous and indecisive, and his body language was nothing like it was on the previous show. He seemed so much more focused against Angelo and Couch, and appeared that something was really bothering him yesterday
--------------------
Brandon Riley
Yeah, maybe his gums were bothering him because he sure did flap them enough.
--------------------
H.A.C.K.
Post by: Brandon Riley on December 17, 2007, 07:57:14 PM
The first few shots he threw, Billy looked really uneasy. It wasn't a look of frustration, but a look of just being overwhelmed.
He was super emotional during his match with scroggs (spare conversion)
Billy also got really down on himself after a few frames against Bohn.
There was little positive talk and I really wonder if there was something off the lanes bothering him and preventing him from performing to his full ability
--------------------
Brandon Riley
Post by: northface28 on December 18, 2007, 12:19:14 AM
--------------------
Make history or sit back and watch it. -EV
Post by: dw23 on December 18, 2007, 12:11:38 PM
Post by: DukeHarding on December 18, 2007, 12:48:11 PM
Oxygen is you friend.
--------------------
Duke Harding
Bowling Balls in my eBay Store... (http://"http://www.dukeharding.com")
Post by: northface28 on December 18, 2007, 03:00:09 PM
quote:
Really, who is anybody on theis board to criticize ANY bowler that makes the pro tour and makes the show?
This forum is getting to be rediculous! Everybody is so cozy here in their internet cocoon. To all the naysayers and character assassins, GET OUT THERE AND SHOW US THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT! Until you do, STFU!
The right way to do what? In no way did I refer to his bowling. I was speaking on his on-lane behavior. Ive watched him during qualifying rounds and his act gets old. Now this is my opinion, you do not have to like it. The fact remains, his "highs" are too high and his "lows" are too low. How can you bowl at an elite level when your emotions are up and down like the stock market?
--------------------
Make history or sit back and watch it. -EV
Post by: lilphyzx on December 18, 2007, 03:11:32 PM
Post by: baseballfrk8998 on December 18, 2007, 04:53:57 PM
--------------------
Click my link and tell me what you think. Please.
Post by: dw23 on December 18, 2007, 05:00:45 PM
Edited on 12/18/2007 6:01 PM
Post by: Monster Pike on December 18, 2007, 06:54:21 PM
--------------------
Just grip it & rip it!
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on December 19, 2007, 06:52:27 AM
quote:
Hey, I like PDW. He doesn't act like a turd when he loses. He actually talks to the camera also, he doesn't act like it's not there. His personality is great & he gets fired up when he's striking. He's not screaming like the Deuche bag 2 weeks ago.
--------------------
Just grip it & rip it!
Yeah PDW is very good on camera. I thought there was a lot of good emotion on that show, not just by Oatman. It all came across really well. You could tell how bad Parker wanted that win and how fired up Page was getting when he was making his run.
--------------------
Go Bucs?
Post by: DP3 on December 19, 2007, 09:03:53 AM
What's up man? PM me! lol
--------------------
-DJ Marshall
...The Twelve In a Row Pro Shop. Hyattsville, MD
Coach: University of Maryland Baltimore County Mens Bowling
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on December 19, 2007, 11:19:39 AM
--------------------
Go Bucs?
Post by: DukeHarding on December 19, 2007, 03:27:26 PM
He has to channel his energy...
I'm sure that his talking to himself is positive affirmation...
I like him...
He's another lefty, AND he's from Chicago!
GO BILLY!
--------------------
Duke Harding
Bowling Balls in my eBay Store... (http://"http://www.dukeharding.com")
Post by: Ahhbach on December 19, 2007, 04:35:51 PM
Post by: northface28 on December 19, 2007, 07:11:37 PM
quote:
I crossed next too Oatman in a Regional last spring, seemed to me he was a whiny cry baby when things didn't go his way. During Practice session he held up one pair while he stood on the approach and gabbed on his cell phone.
See, cool rocking caveman, if you left your cave and actually watched an event you would know what I'm talking about. I like Oatman personally, but people think Chris Barnes is a baby? Barnes has nothing on Oatman when it comes to crying. Barnes is much more surly and less personable so it's easier to dislike Chris Barnes. Billy Oatman is a good guy, don't get me wrong, but he is arguably the biggest "baby" on tour. Don't believe me? Ask someone who knows, that is, if you know someone on your Sat night mixed league that can explain it to you in caveman as I am not fluent in your apparent language.
--------------------
Make history or sit back and watch it. -EV
Post by: Jeff Carter on December 19, 2007, 08:31:33 PM
--------------------
Bowl up a Storm,
Jeff Carter
www.stormbowling.com
www.jeffcarterbowling.com
www.myspace.com/jeff1295
Post by: Nails on December 20, 2007, 07:58:13 AM
--------------------
Telling it like it is.
Post by: pop_1 on December 20, 2007, 09:28:06 AM
Post by: Ahhbach on December 20, 2007, 03:39:05 PM
quote:
You don't need to die inside every time a wrapped corner pin is left or an anticipated move didn't work the way you expected.
Or as a Professional you shouldn't kill those around you with your incessant whining. He acts like a 400 lb baby when he bowls
Post by: northface28 on December 20, 2007, 04:03:34 PM
quote:
NO, you are missing the point. Whatever it takes for an individual pro bowler to be successful is what it takes. PDW has to wear dark glasses now. Twenty years ago it would be heresy. Oatman has to talk to himself and get pumped up so be it. Once again, I ask the question: who are any of us that has no PBA experience to question their methodology? That is the point of my posts. Get up there and show us the "right" way to do it or be quiet.
I give up, you will never understand what I am talking about. As for credentials, I have as many as you, none. But, I did stay at a holiday inn last night.....
--------------------
Make history or sit back and watch it. -EV
Post by: snowgimp on December 20, 2007, 04:58:34 PM
quote:
Yeah, that's what I thought. Ya got nothing.
With tough talk like this I gotta punch out of reading this thread...
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/internetstooserious.jpg
--------------------
Be a good Irish boys friend...www.myspace.com/snowgimp
Hi, my name is Brian and I'm a recovering Brunswick user. Thanks Rotogrip!
-"That Kangaroo stole my ball"
-"It's like a tire fire, trying to put it out only makes it worse. You've just gotta let it burn... grab a beer and let it burn.'
Post by: DukeHarding on December 20, 2007, 05:11:03 PM
Don't worry at least a Hall of Famer, let you bowl with him.
He has high regards for your game.
The guy is from Detroit...the hot bed of bowling...you can't argue with him.
--------------------
Duke Harding
Post by: DukeHarding on December 20, 2007, 06:42:55 PM
quote:
I'm sorry if I offended any of you kids. I just come from a different era and area where you either put up or shut up. Guess you just can't handle that concept.
By the way, last time I looked there were more sanctioned bowlers in the Detroit area than any other. That may be different now, I don't know.
Watch who you're calling kid...Junior!
I'm a Super Senior!
--------------------
Duke Harding
Post by: Bigmike on December 21, 2007, 10:08:50 AM
Billy is emotional at times, as we all are. When you get out in games 6-7-8 and the scoring pace is very high, you feel anytime that you don't strike you are done and it shows in your emotions.
All I can say is bowling in that atmosphere is a different animal. My thought process was to just make a good showing since I am still new to the regional scene. Henson was just trying to at the very least be high senior, but make a regular check since those pay better than high-senior check. Himmler and Oatman were there to WIN the tournament period. You folks can do the math on the expectation process and how some people react to it.
I will say one thing about that day; Even though I stunk the joint up, I learned so much OFF the lanes. Just by paying attention to the way Himmler or Oatman approached a make-or-break shot was worth the price of any 3-4 lessons alone. When I say make-or-break, I mean a shot which can push you into saving a game that you got off to slower start in. Himmler was striking at will that day, but he had a few games where he left 2-3 single pins in a row and was at 98 spare-up in the 5. He would make the adjustment to strike again in the 6 & 7th frames on each lane, then in the 8th it was like he was in another world with his focus.
Needless to say, I have mucho respect for all those guys for there MENTAL games. All of them throw it well as do many players at that top tier of the game, it is what is between the ears that puts these guys ahead of better than average players.
--------------------
Mike Craig-Columbus, OH
Post by: Ahhbach on December 22, 2007, 06:21:43 AM
quote:
I will say one thing about that day; Even though I stunk the joint up, I learned so much OFF the lanes. Just by paying attention to the way Himmler or Oatman approached a make-or-break shot was worth the price of any 3-4 lessons alone. When I say make-or-break, I mean a shot which can push you into saving a game that you got off to slower start in. Himmler was striking at will that day, but he had a few games where he left 2-3 single pins in a row and was at 98 spare-up in the 5. He would make the adjustment to strike again in the 6 & 7th frames on each lane, then in the 8th it was like he was in another world with his focus.
Needless to say, I have mucho respect for all those guys for there MENTAL games. All of them throw it well as do many players at that top tier of the game, it is what is between the ears that puts these guys ahead of better than average players.
Oatman has a lot of talent but is a whiny baby, Himmler is Very good. The best in central region and doesn't get hardly any Respect is Ken Abner I crossed with him in Cuyahoga Falls and he throws the ball unreal never whined or cried when he got rapped but just took it in style.