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Brian Valenta wins PBA Regional with BLACK BEAUTY!
« on: July 08, 2013, 07:59:37 AM »
Here's the blog with details on Brian Valenta's win this weekend. Still seeking the answer to who was the last person was to win a PBA title with a hard rubber ball and when was it?

The 11th Frame: Two-hander Brian Valenta makes history winning PBA Regional with hard rubber ball

http://www.11thframe.com/page/blog_id_5946

 

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Re: Brian Valenta wins PBA Regional with BLACK BEAUTY!
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2013, 09:23:18 AM »
Anybody know where there is footage of him throwing this thing?

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Re: Brian Valenta wins PBA Regional with BLACK BEAUTY!
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2013, 09:25:20 AM »
No coverage of this weekend's Regional.

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Re: Brian Valenta wins PBA Regional with BLACK BEAUTY!
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2013, 09:27:51 AM »
Good blog as always, Riggs.  I had the pleasure of being there to watch on Sunday.  As this is my home house, I can confirm that there is definitely hang outside. The normal league THS plays a little tougher than most because of it.  It was a tough break on the 7-10.  Too bad you couldn't call in Tackett to pick it up like he did earlier in the day.  And now I gotta find myself a Black Beauty!

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Re: Brian Valenta wins PBA Regional with BLACK BEAUTY!
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2013, 09:34:29 AM »
LOL. Thanks. Maybe if I could throw it as hard as youngsters like E.J. I could pick up the 7-10!

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Re: Brian Valenta wins PBA Regional with BLACK BEAUTY!
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2013, 11:41:12 AM »
Riggs, missed you at the Shark 6 gamer. Brian won there too, but must have left the BB in the car, lol. That guy has Perma Beast mode. Always on.

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Re: Brian Valenta wins PBA Regional with BLACK BEAUTY!
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2013, 02:19:10 PM »
Several years ago I reported of bowling in my home house that on weekends I would throw a reactive and at the end of the head shot(15 foot application) the ball would actually jump up and cross 3 boards in the air the sideways.

Finally one weekend I saw a good Lefty throwing on the weekend withOUT the normal lefty ball jumping.  He shot about 680 practicing.

I talked to the center and they let me take an old rubber, put fingertips and I had found my new weekend ball.  Better than a Plastic XXXL which hooked too much and too early.

The rubber made dry dry after 15 feet of oil application seem like a nice 40 foot league shot.  Thank you very much.

In general it was not enough for normal league shot, 15 foot of new fresh head oil.  However, it was great for the weekend!

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Re: Brian Valenta wins PBA Regional with BLACK BEAUTY!
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2013, 02:19:45 PM »
Riggs, missed you at the Shark 6 gamer. Brian won there too, but must have left the BB in the car, lol. That guy has Perma Beast mode. Always on.

Perma Beast Mode for eating Cheeseburgers and crave cases from white castle!!! haha, no, i've known BV for a long time and it isn't shocking he whacked them with the black beauty. He did that in a few college tournaments as well, and also with a Dick Weber 5 star off the rack (I will never forget that tournament, zero look at the practice session, grab the 5 star off the rack, throw it every game of the tournament and get 2nd individually) SILLY!

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Re: Brian Valenta wins PBA Regional with BLACK BEAUTY!
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2013, 03:48:01 PM »
I think that's amazing. Amazing bowling, Valenta.
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Re: Brian Valenta wins PBA Regional with BLACK BEAUTY!
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2013, 09:45:15 PM »
I still have an old Black Diamond in my garage.  About 5 years ago I took it down to the last night of a late league in an old anvil lane house.  I shot 670 with it after a 170 start where I basically played outside the track.  By the end of the night I had swing at 15 board and was blowing racks with my sub 300 rev rate. 

Over the years I have found hard rubber to be better than plastic on a lot of patterns, especially longer patterns that have really dried out inside. 

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Re: Brian Valenta wins PBA Regional with BLACK BEAUTY!
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2013, 04:54:09 AM »
Riggs, missed you at the Shark 6 gamer. Brian won there too, but must have left the BB in the car, lol. That guy has Perma Beast mode. Always on.

I saw on Facebook that he won. My Raisin body was done after the Regional was over ... and I had to get home to get some sleep so I could be to work at 5 a.m. Monday.

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Re: Brian Valenta wins PBA Regional with BLACK BEAUTY!
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2013, 01:15:15 PM »
Being a youngster on this site, what is the difference between rubber, urethane, and plastic? I already know the difference between urethane and plastic. But iwa s wondering how they match up to rubber.
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Re: Brian Valenta wins PBA Regional with BLACK BEAUTY!
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2013, 04:01:38 PM »
There have been 3 basic shell compositions over the last 80 years in the game.  Brunswick introduced the hard rubber ball and it became the standard in the game for over 30 years.  Around 1960 Brunswick, and Columbia ( then a fledgling company in Ephrata Washington ) introduced a polyester plastic shell ball. 

 The plastic became a significant factor as lane finishes were getting increasingly harder and urethane lane finish replaced lacquer around 1970.  About this time Don Johnson became a force on the PBA tour using a Columbia polyester ball, and in no time everyone was throwing the plastic balls, with hard rubber relegated to the background.

In 1980 AMF introduced the first urethane ( technically polyurethane ) ball, the Angle.  While, technically speaking it too is a form of plastic, the friction characteristic of urethane compared to polyester were different, especially if the shell  was roughed up.  Urethane balls soon replaced polyester in much the way polyester replaced hard rubber as the ball of choice. 

In 1991 it was discovered that enhancing urethane with resin additives changed the friction characteristics in an even more useful manner than was the case for pure urethane.  Once again the landscape changed as resin became the gold standard for bowling ball shells.     

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Re: Brian Valenta wins PBA Regional with BLACK BEAUTY!
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2013, 04:50:48 PM »
You forgot to mention before ABC/USBC started the hardness testing in the 70's that they had the soakers that they used and that's really started the experimentation of coverstock manipulations, which lead to the invention of the softer shelled balls like the Sur D and some others! Just my $.02, Bruce
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Re: Brian Valenta wins PBA Regional with BLACK BEAUTY!
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2013, 10:38:59 PM »
This was very informative as i did learn some things. But i was looking for the comparison of ball motion and hook potential on today's dryer conditions that bowlers face when reactives are out of play.
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