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JessN16

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Building the ideal pro...
« on: August 05, 2007, 09:31:30 AM »
Throw in your own suggestions, just for fun...

* The physique of Walter Ray Williams,
* The raw potential for strength of Wes Mallott,
* The flexibility of Amleto Monicelli,
* The balance of Jeff Carter,
* The smoothness of Pete Weber,
* The focus of Brian Voss,
* The guile of Norm Duke,
* The tenacity of Ryan Shafer,
* The physical consistency of Chris Barnes,
* The outward attitude of Parker Bohn,
* The killer instinct of Jason Couch,
* The form of David Ozio,
* The release of Mike Machuga,

and two contributions from the dearly departed...

* The adaptability of Dick Weber,
* The inner strength of Earl Anthony.

Yours?

Jess

 

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Re: Building the ideal pro...
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2007, 03:06:01 PM »
How about things like :

Heart
Work Ethic
perseverance
Versatility



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JessN16

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Re: Building the ideal pro...
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2007, 03:26:28 PM »
quote:
How about things like :

Heart
Work Ethic
perseverance
Versatility



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The only one of those I think I could answer from afar would be versatility. Norm Duke plays all over the lane and does it well, so I'd put him up there somewhere. I've seen Steve Jaros and Chris Barnes both play multiple lines and speeds, and who can forget Doug Kent?

As for the others, I think you have to be fairly close to someone to know those traits. As part of my day job, I cover college football. Most of those guys look the part, but some of them are lazy as old hound dogs. For all I know, Dave Traber could have a great work ethic but his physique doesn't really back it up.

I do know John Handegaard used to bowl a ton of practice games each week, so he's probably up there in the work ethic department.

I don't feel qualified to judge "heart" in a bowler, so I'll leave that up to the guys on tour to tell me. Same with perseverence.

Jess


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Re: Building the ideal pro...
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2007, 08:01:21 PM »
Ok Jeff what do you think?
                           Heart- Ryan Shafer
                         Work Ethic- Brian Voss
                         Perseverance- Mike Edwards
                         Versatility- Norm Duke+Walter Ray Williams

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Re: Building the ideal pro...
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2007, 11:08:47 PM »
What do i think ? Well i have an opinion of every player on tour. Of course i would never say anything bad about any of them out of respect, but i will say is this,based on those 4 traits :

Heart : Hands down its Ryan Shafer. Ryan has been an uphill climber his whole career and works as hard today as he did day one. Ryan gets a bad rap because of his "opinions", but you have to respect somebody that says it how he feels

Work Ethic : A lot of guys can fall into this category and many of them are guys that you would never guess. The first that comes to mind is Tommy Delutz. Tommy is there, every tuesday putting his work in. Not many exempt guys go to the bowl on tuesday to practice ( only a dozen of us or so ). Tommy is always working hard

Perserverance : I'm not one to be a self promoter and i hate bringing myself into conversations, but i think this is where i would fit in. I've probably bowled more PBA events over the last 5 years than anybody. I bowled PTQs for 2 solid years ( only missing 1 ) and i chased the regional points for 2 years as well. I've been called the hardest worker on tour......i call it doing what i love to do and never settling for anything

Versatility : Now i think the world of Norm, but his reputation of being the most versatile is very overrated. Norm is versatile, but not as much as he used to be. Norm cant keep up playing in nearly as well as he used to. Norm can really only slow hook it from in, and that type of game doesnt play as well nowadays. Dont get me wrong, i think Norm is still one of the best in the business...but i think the most versatile bowler on tour is Chris Barnes. Also, most of you dont know this but Michael Fagan can do anything with his rubber arm and his straight game is getting pretty impressive

Every bowler on tour has his strengths and weaknesses. Its the guys that can still grind away with their weaknesses that wind up on top. These guys out here are good....i dont think that most bowlers at home really realize how good they are
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Re: Building the ideal pro...
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2007, 12:06:50 AM »
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What do i think ? Well i have an opinion of every player on tour. Of course i would never say anything bad about any of them out of respect, but i will say is this,based on those 4 traits :

Heart : Hands down its Ryan Shafer. Ryan has been an uphill climber his whole career and works as hard today as he did day one. Ryan gets a bad rap because of his "opinions", but you have to respect somebody that says it how he feels

Work Ethic : A lot of guys can fall into this category and many of them are guys that you would never guess. The first that comes to mind is Tommy Delutz. Tommy is there, every tuesday putting his work in. Not many exempt guys go to the bowl on tuesday to practice ( only a dozen of us or so ). Tommy is always working hard

Perserverance : I'm not one to be a self promoter and i hate bringing myself into conversations, but i think this is where i would fit in. I've probably bowled more PBA events over the last 5 years than anybody. I bowled PTQs for 2 solid years ( only missing 1 ) and i chased the regional points for 2 years as well. I've been called the hardest worker on tour......i call it doing what i love to do and never settling for anything

Versatility : Now i think the world of Norm, but his reputation of being the most versatile is very overrated. Norm is versatile, but not as much as he used to be. Norm cant keep up playing in nearly as well as he used to. Norm can really only slow hook it from in, and that type of game doesnt play as well nowadays. Dont get me wrong, i think Norm is still one of the best in the business...but i think the most versatile bowler on tour is Chris Barnes. Also, most of you dont know this but Michael Fagan can do anything with his rubber arm and his straight game is getting pretty impressive

Every bowler on tour has his strengths and weaknesses. Its the guys that can still grind away with their weaknesses that wind up on top. These guys out here are good....i dont think that most bowlers at home really realize how good they are
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I wish I'd written it when I thought about it, because after I listed Barnes, Kent and Jaros, Fagan was going to be in that group. If he'd won a title by now, I probably would have included him.

I remember watching him in two shows last year go from throwing basically straight up 8 one show to lofting half the lane from the left gutter cap the next. A lot of guys think they can do that but not many can actually pull it off.

Jess

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Re: Building the ideal pro...
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2007, 07:17:50 AM »
The old way of doing this was to plop Earls head on Marshalls body(hell even Wayne Webbs body!!)
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Re: Building the ideal pro...
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2007, 05:15:02 AM »
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I question both the choice of WRW and the use of the word "physique"!  


I think he meant "physics degree", didn't he???

And for being a gracious winner - how about Ernie Schlegel?
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Re: Building the ideal pro...
« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2007, 09:56:33 PM »
Danny Wiseman's timing, Chris Barnes's backswing, Parker Bohn's balance, Norm Duke's aim, Tommy Jones release and Walter Ray's carry. Say hello to winning 7 titles and 2 majors this season.