Post by: JessN16 on August 05, 2007, 09:31:30 AM
* The physique of Walter Ray Williams,
* The raw potential for strength of Wes Mallott,
* The flexibility of Amleto Monicelli,
* The balance of Jeff Carter,
* The smoothness of Pete Weber,
* The focus of Brian Voss,
* The guile of Norm Duke,
* The tenacity of Ryan Shafer,
* The physical consistency of Chris Barnes,
* The outward attitude of Parker Bohn,
* The killer instinct of Jason Couch,
* The form of David Ozio,
* The release of Mike Machuga,
and two contributions from the dearly departed...
* The adaptability of Dick Weber,
* The inner strength of Earl Anthony.
Yours?
Jess
Post by: kingpin 1 on August 05, 2007, 09:16:14 PM
just my opinion
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Post by: hammermike2000 on August 05, 2007, 09:17:48 PM
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Post by: DON DRAPER on August 05, 2007, 09:24:09 PM
Post by: charlest on August 05, 2007, 09:38:24 PM
Tenacity and Killer Instinct: Earl Anthony
One ball to strike; Norm Duke
Accuracy: WRW and Duke
(FYI: Walter Ray regards himself as "fairly accurate")
Smoothness: David Ozio
THE Pressure bowler: Don Carter, without a doubt, having seen them all.
Dick Weber's name barely entered the listings, until Don Carter retired.
Longevity: Andy Varipapa did the virtually impossible when he won the All-STar Championship TWICE while he was in his mid 50's. The All-Star was a grueling 100 games in about a week's time. There's darn few pro alive today who can even bowl 100 games in a week. (Ozio and Anthony used to do that for in weekly practice sessions; rare or non-existent is the pro who does that now.)
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Post by: Beef STL on August 05, 2007, 11:21:12 PM
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Post by: chitown on August 05, 2007, 11:52:51 PM
Speed control of Earl Anthony
Form and Balance of Dave Ozio
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Post by: Beef STL on August 06, 2007, 12:18:17 AM
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The hair of our hero ...............
Wiseman, for sure!
... Or Mark Williams of the late 90s era :-P
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Post by: tonybowls on August 06, 2007, 06:50:33 AM
Post by: baccala8872 on August 06, 2007, 07:24:51 AM
--Guppy Troup's pants
--Carmen Salvino's temper
--Marshall Holman's vocals
--Rudy Revs' porn mustache
--Del Ballard's ability to throw a fill ball
--Dale Traber's lats
Give me those, and I'll show you a champion!!
Post by: JessN16 on August 06, 2007, 04:07:44 PM
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When I was at the PBA all star shootout a few months ago, they mentioned that when the PBA took a poll asking a bunch of pros who's release you would like to have, PDW's surpassed everyone.
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I originally wrote Weber and then erased it, and opted for smoothness instead -- which you could apply to release.
I had the opportunity to bowl with Machuga for a game a couple of years ago, and the reason I opted for his over Weber is equal parts the ability to snap the ball and that I actually think he's a little more versatile than Weber.
I thought Machuga's release looked good on TV until I watched it from 10 feet. It's a thing of beauty.
Jess
Post by: Kinalyx on August 08, 2007, 12:13:35 PM
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--Del Ballard's ability to throw a fill ballQuote
That has to be the funniest thing I've read here in a while...
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Post by: KDawg77 on August 08, 2007, 12:19:07 PM
I question both the choice of WRW and the use of the word "physique"!
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Post by: mugrad on August 08, 2007, 12:34:52 PM
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Post by: LuckyLefty on August 08, 2007, 01:02:07 PM
The balance and style and pure FREE SPEED of Dave Davis(perfect...I think).
The release of PDW....(absolutely right...I agree).
The accuracy...of Walter Ray.
The guts...of Norm Duke...or Dave Davis
Speed Control...Earl
The hand of Jimmy Keeth
The good luck that is bestowed by being annointed by Southern Regional bowler RD
REgards,
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Post by: Jeff Carter on August 08, 2007, 03:06:01 PM
Heart
Work Ethic
perseverance
Versatility
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Post by: JessN16 on August 08, 2007, 03:26:28 PM
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How about things like :
Heart
Work Ethic
perseverance
Versatility
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The only one of those I think I could answer from afar would be versatility. Norm Duke plays all over the lane and does it well, so I'd put him up there somewhere. I've seen Steve Jaros and Chris Barnes both play multiple lines and speeds, and who can forget Doug Kent?
As for the others, I think you have to be fairly close to someone to know those traits. As part of my day job, I cover college football. Most of those guys look the part, but some of them are lazy as old hound dogs. For all I know, Dave Traber could have a great work ethic but his physique doesn't really back it up.
I do know John Handegaard used to bowl a ton of practice games each week, so he's probably up there in the work ethic department.
I don't feel qualified to judge "heart" in a bowler, so I'll leave that up to the guys on tour to tell me. Same with perseverence.
Jess
Post by: tonybowls on August 08, 2007, 08:01:21 PM
Heart- Ryan Shafer
Work Ethic- Brian Voss
Perseverance- Mike Edwards
Versatility- Norm Duke+Walter Ray Williams
Post by: Jeff Carter on August 08, 2007, 11:08:47 PM
Heart : Hands down its Ryan Shafer. Ryan has been an uphill climber his whole career and works as hard today as he did day one. Ryan gets a bad rap because of his "opinions", but you have to respect somebody that says it how he feels
Work Ethic : A lot of guys can fall into this category and many of them are guys that you would never guess. The first that comes to mind is Tommy Delutz. Tommy is there, every tuesday putting his work in. Not many exempt guys go to the bowl on tuesday to practice ( only a dozen of us or so ). Tommy is always working hard
Perserverance : I'm not one to be a self promoter and i hate bringing myself into conversations, but i think this is where i would fit in. I've probably bowled more PBA events over the last 5 years than anybody. I bowled PTQs for 2 solid years ( only missing 1 ) and i chased the regional points for 2 years as well. I've been called the hardest worker on tour......i call it doing what i love to do and never settling for anything
Versatility : Now i think the world of Norm, but his reputation of being the most versatile is very overrated. Norm is versatile, but not as much as he used to be. Norm cant keep up playing in nearly as well as he used to. Norm can really only slow hook it from in, and that type of game doesnt play as well nowadays. Dont get me wrong, i think Norm is still one of the best in the business...but i think the most versatile bowler on tour is Chris Barnes. Also, most of you dont know this but Michael Fagan can do anything with his rubber arm and his straight game is getting pretty impressive
Every bowler on tour has his strengths and weaknesses. Its the guys that can still grind away with their weaknesses that wind up on top. These guys out here are good....i dont think that most bowlers at home really realize how good they are
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Post by: JessN16 on August 09, 2007, 12:06:50 AM
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What do i think ? Well i have an opinion of every player on tour. Of course i would never say anything bad about any of them out of respect, but i will say is this,based on those 4 traits :
Heart : Hands down its Ryan Shafer. Ryan has been an uphill climber his whole career and works as hard today as he did day one. Ryan gets a bad rap because of his "opinions", but you have to respect somebody that says it how he feels
Work Ethic : A lot of guys can fall into this category and many of them are guys that you would never guess. The first that comes to mind is Tommy Delutz. Tommy is there, every tuesday putting his work in. Not many exempt guys go to the bowl on tuesday to practice ( only a dozen of us or so ). Tommy is always working hard
Perserverance : I'm not one to be a self promoter and i hate bringing myself into conversations, but i think this is where i would fit in. I've probably bowled more PBA events over the last 5 years than anybody. I bowled PTQs for 2 solid years ( only missing 1 ) and i chased the regional points for 2 years as well. I've been called the hardest worker on tour......i call it doing what i love to do and never settling for anything
Versatility : Now i think the world of Norm, but his reputation of being the most versatile is very overrated. Norm is versatile, but not as much as he used to be. Norm cant keep up playing in nearly as well as he used to. Norm can really only slow hook it from in, and that type of game doesnt play as well nowadays. Dont get me wrong, i think Norm is still one of the best in the business...but i think the most versatile bowler on tour is Chris Barnes. Also, most of you dont know this but Michael Fagan can do anything with his rubber arm and his straight game is getting pretty impressive
Every bowler on tour has his strengths and weaknesses. Its the guys that can still grind away with their weaknesses that wind up on top. These guys out here are good....i dont think that most bowlers at home really realize how good they are
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I wish I'd written it when I thought about it, because after I listed Barnes, Kent and Jaros, Fagan was going to be in that group. If he'd won a title by now, I probably would have included him.
I remember watching him in two shows last year go from throwing basically straight up 8 one show to lofting half the lane from the left gutter cap the next. A lot of guys think they can do that but not many can actually pull it off.
Jess
Post by: AdrianS on August 14, 2007, 07:17:50 AM
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Post by: mumzie on August 16, 2007, 05:15:02 AM
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I question both the choice of WRW and the use of the word "physique"!
I think he meant "physics degree", didn't he???
And for being a gracious winner - how about Ernie Schlegel?
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Post by: BrianCRX90 on August 27, 2007, 09:56:33 PM