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thfonz98

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burning up your opponents line..ok?
« on: March 09, 2005, 05:42:38 AM »
supposedly tony reyes had something to say to mika after this weeks telecast since mika supposedly was burning up tony's line with some sanded stuff in practice.

whats your thoughts?

I think once you bowl for money anything goes.  You gotta do what you can to win(or at least advance to the next match play round)
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Re: burning up your opponents line..ok?
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2005, 01:46:03 PM »
Without knowing the real story, I won't make any comments.
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Re: burning up your opponents line..ok?
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2005, 04:03:17 PM »
It's not against the rules and many players do it.  I don't care for the practice, but what can you do?  Usually they are trying to create a dry area to bounce off of, or some carrydown for hold.  I'm not sure how often (and surely no one would admit to) players do it for the sole purpose of destroying another players line.  If his line was burned up, maybe Tony should have tried plastic.  
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Re: burning up your opponents line..ok?
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2005, 04:06:55 PM »
I think you spell it a-d-j-u-s-t-m-e-n-t, but I could be wrong.
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2005, 04:10:16 PM »
I go with the theory of do unto others before they do unto you.  Basically, I would've fried his shot first.
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2005, 04:17:21 PM »
Don't care how you win! A Win is A Win He can burn his line too if is a problem then everyone should bowl on a new fresh pair for each frame.
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Re: burning up your opponents line..ok?
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2005, 04:23:36 PM »
I guess I would worry about adjusting if I saw someone doing this to me in practice- I know he had been bowling well over the course of the tournament with one particular line, but at the pro level you have to be ready to make adjustments, especially under the bright hot lights that can also mess with the lane conditions quickly.

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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2005, 04:34:44 PM »
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Re: burning up your opponents line..ok?
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2005, 04:54:59 PM »
I don't know whether Mika did it in order to maximize his shot, or destroy Tony's.  Either way I don't agree with the practice.  I know it's different at the pro level, but bowlers every day complain about how easy bowling has become, and then when a shot it put down that forces you to make quality shots, people blow a hole in the pattern with these ridicoulosly high friction balls to make it easier.  Just because there isn't a rule against it, doesn't make it right.
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Re: burning up your opponents line..ok?
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2005, 05:16:56 PM »
Yes, I wonder why the pros get so much pratice. They practice before the match, and in between matches (TV commercial breaks) on the TV pair. In league, you are not allowed to practice on the pair that you are playing on before the game. Shouldn't they be allowed to practice only before the match like a regular league or tournament?  

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They shouldn't allow any practice whatsoever on the actual TV pair, just on the adjacent pair.




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Re: burning up your opponents line..ok?
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2005, 05:25:20 PM »
Still, he threw a 150 something.He's a pro and pro's are supposed to adjust.I don't care how difficult a shot is, a 150 is ridicoulis at the pro level and saying that someone else screwed with your line is just as ridicoulis.If I bowled that crappy I would probably blame somebody else too even though it was my fault that I was too afraid to adjust.
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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2005, 05:32:04 PM »
I don't understand this either. They have an adjoining pair that they could practice on. I think they should do ALL of their warm-up practicing on the adjacent pair, then they get two shots max on each lane of the TV pair before the match begins. This goes for all three matches - only two shots each.

These are the best bowlers in the world. I'm sure they can figure out a decent line and equipment to play in only a few shots.

Also, the PBA should put out the same shot that they put out all week on the TV pair. Aren't there some tournaments where the TV shot is totally different from what was played on all week?
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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2005, 06:21:33 PM »
Walking E nailed it!

I think it might be legal but it is morally cheating trying to destroy other's lines!  Not much different than a large corporate lawyer delaying a case over and over until a damaged party dies.  Only because the rules allow it and he can!

Practice only on the practice pair 10 minutes and then 2 shots each lane enough!  Before each match if you've cooled off, 4 minutes on practice pair.

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Great shot and then all carrydown.... Yukkkk.
PPS Tony really didn't throw the ball that well, maybe because of uncertainty.
But I heard foul line slam, drop, slam, drop, slam slam, slam, smooth .....strike! 8th frame.
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Re: burning up your opponents line..ok?
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2005, 07:10:52 PM »
bigmac:  Do we know if Tony complained for sure?  I am not sure if that rumor has been confirmed.  We really don't know if he said something or what he would have said exactly.



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Re: burning up your opponents line..ok?
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2005, 08:13:16 PM »
Come on people!

Mika did what he had to do!  

 Rick Benoit:
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You could tell his ball reaction was being effected by the dull ball Mika used for lane management in practice.


Rick never said Mike set out to destory somebody elses' lines, all he said was how Mika 'managed' the lanes, that's all.

And as Chappy Girl said, did we know Tony complained for sure?

Is the finals format perfect? Is it ideal?  Maybe yes, maybe no.  Hell, I think 64 exempt field is too small and it should be 96 or 128 but so what?  They are pros, they know the rules, they know how long they can practice and on which pairs........ etc.  Nobody changed the rules at 12.29 ET Sunday 6th March, did they?

Tony seems to be a great person and a great pro, I very much doubt he would have said anything.

Hearsay man, that is all.

In my league there are guys who love their dull/particle balls, whatever the condition, playing 10/12 at the arrow. Now I'm just a rubbish bowler, but I love it when I see this, I usually just pull out my pearl ball, which happens to be the Zone Classis BTW, and play inside them.  If that doesn't work, plan B...  and so on.

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People on the tour are all great pros.  I'm sure they'd just deal with it.

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