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CDB vs Shannon P.
« on: November 22, 2009, 06:51:30 AM »
Glad to eee Shannon P absolutly pulverise CDB! I cant Stand CDB. I know she is alot better than what I could hope to be but I her attitude stinks and she evidently had a hard time hooking it or even knowing where to stand what gear to use to hook the ball.

Good to see her brought down to earth a little good to see her get a taste of her own medicine, maybe that will be a good attitude adjustment.
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Re: CDB vs Shannon P.
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2009, 09:25:05 PM »
Pluhowsky played way out, while every righty played in...until O'neill went out there in the final game...where he, consequently, had a pretty good look and made great shots to win the title.

Watching on TV, it appeared quite obvious that anything even remotely "in" was a complete disaster.  The question is...did any of the rightys, other than O'neill, actually attempt to play out during their practice session?

Even if the "out" looked iffy...you would have a hard time convincing me it looked worse than the "in."

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Re: CDB vs Shannon P.
« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2009, 05:22:47 AM »
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right side was toasty but CDB was not on top her game. she was not spliting dimes like she is capable of doing. shannon looked great (and may have had advantage due to being lefty) but she is one hell of a bowler. i wish i had her skills.
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Re: CDB vs Shannon P.
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2009, 05:55:53 AM »
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right side was toasty but CDB was not on top her game. she was not spliting dimes like she is capable of doing. shannon looked great (and may have had advantage due to being lefty) but she is one hell of a bowler. i wish i had her skills.
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not if you are playing the correct part of the lane with the correct ball. which i don't think she was
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Re: CDB vs Shannon P.
« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2009, 06:27:57 AM »
If anyone remembers from watching the show, Randy stated that the surface for the finals was a different surface than the other side of the center where they did qualifying/match play.  If the lefties had an unfair advantage, there would have been more of them on the show.  It is sad when Ronnie Russell stated he was throwing about the weakest ball out there and he still had issues with the ball clearing the heads.  Bill ONeill had the right idea yesterday when he went right and played up and at them.
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Re: CDB vs Shannon P.
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2009, 07:14:55 AM »
The whole setup was wrong.

In many of these cases the qualifying for the show was completed weeks ago and the bowlers have been bowling on other patterns since.

The lane surface is different than what they bowled qualifying on.

Some may have qualified for multiple TV shows and it maybe their 2nd or 3rd show that day.

Other than the first show the lanes have multiple patterns laid on them in some cases the same day. Lanes have a memory and simply stripping and re-oiling will not remove the entire previous pattern.

All of this means bowlers who may have lost their stroke some, bowling on different conditions than they qualified on and possibly mentally exhausted from bowling on TV shows earlier.

Not a good scenario for high scores.

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Re: CDB vs Shannon P.
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2009, 07:53:01 AM »
"The Chameleon is a left handers paradise ... especially on a worn lane surface.

I think the pattern should be eliminated completely from competition and replaced with something else. It gives left handers an unfair advantage."

HOW DO YOU COME UP WITH THIS ANALYTICAL JEWEL WHEN THE HIGHEST LEFTY WAS 36TH? Qualifying occurred in the bay where there was less hook.

If you had listened/watched extra frame Jason Couch said that the left was unplayable during qualifying and that the PBA did not do enough testing when they developed this pattern.


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Re: CDB vs Shannon P.
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2009, 08:19:04 AM »
Qualify only was done in the other bay. Match play was done on the same surface as the show so its not like they did not bowl on it before the finals. Also during taping the woman bowl first on fresh and then they reoiled before the men. I think the pba could have bumped up the volume in the arena bay to compensate but that is on them.

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Re: CDB vs Shannon P.
« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2009, 08:35:18 AM »
These guys are pros I don''t think surface should matter that much. Ronnie Russel could have balled down to a Scout choose to go with a Freeze. CDB Started with a Rattler, could have used Groove. Rash Started with C-System balled down to a Avalanche I think he made the right choice in that move.

IMO They could have had better gear ready these guys are pros and they KNEW what the surface was gonna be like BEFORE they started bowling.
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Re: CDB vs Shannon P.
« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2009, 10:51:28 AM »
Maybe a lip reader out there can correct me if I'm wrong. When CDB was done w/ the match, she tuned and said 'I'm pissed'. She had zero chance after the men burned up the right side.
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Re: CDB vs Shannon P.
« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2009, 11:56:30 AM »
CDB had absolutely no chance in this match, they should either put the women on a separate pair or let them bowl first.  This was especially true when Pluhowsky is the only lefty on the pair.

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Re: CDB vs Shannon P.
« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2009, 12:22:57 PM »
Not sure how much practice they had, but if you watch the Men's matches, you would have seen that the right side was already burnt up before they started.  CDB is a very good bowler and should have seen how the lanes were playing watching the Men's matches.  To me, she used the wron ball and the wrong line.  She did not move right until after the match was basically over.

Bottom line, she did not move fast enough.

Side note:  Does not make a difference,  Based on the look that Shannon had, CDB would have lost anyway.

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Re: CDB vs Shannon P.
« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2009, 12:24:24 PM »
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I have no particular love for CDB but that''s pretty vicious. What did she do to you?


+1 Don't get the level of dislike...

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Re: CDB vs Shannon P.
« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2009, 12:34:02 PM »
Heres what I kept wondering. If your side of the lane is TOASTED and all your GOOD stuff hooks horribly, and 180 IS GOING TO WIN, WHY NOT JUST USE YOUR PLASTIC SPARE BALL?

 It's going to be predictable, stable, and let you use the dirt to your advantage, isn't it?

  I mean, if it's a strikefest then no way, but a grind out toasted shot where all you need is 180? Why not?
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Re: CDB vs Shannon P.
« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2009, 12:52:08 PM »
I was wondering that myself. Plastic has saved my arse many times.

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Re: CDB vs Shannon P.
« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2009, 01:17:05 PM »
I already posted this but the women bowled before the men on the fresh, its pretaped they can show it in any order they want.