Post by: serice on January 28, 2007, 03:41:01 AM
I think if you make a violation like a cell phone ringing during a televised broadcast, you need to get escorted out of the center and banned from the next intown tournament. It's rude and completely avoidable!!
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Post by: shipper50 on January 28, 2007, 12:23:50 PM
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Post by: Mr Bass on January 28, 2007, 01:03:55 PM
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Post by: JessN16 on January 28, 2007, 03:29:32 PM
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A tournament is understandable, but I get used to it. The things that irritate me are screaming unattended children, lane courtesy and mouthing off after a strike/split/miss. You get the picture...
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Ditto. I have to have mine on during league because I'm on call 24/7/365 for my job. I don't really get a day off.
But when I make arrangements to be out of town for a tournament or something, that thing doesn't go on for a minute. And why people can't silence their phones before going to a movie theater or a bowling tournament, I have no idea.
But there's nothing like being at a tournament or league and having someone think you should have to babysit their kid while they throw their shot.
Jess
Post by: shipper50 on January 28, 2007, 03:32:09 PM
You shouldn't have to get used to it. There should be a rule if your phone goes off where a bowler can hear it, then there should be fine of $20 or so and then if you get so many fines, you should be banned from the league. I bowled a long time without hearing cell phones. I took off 12 years and now its common place and its not right.
I agree with the other things you said, it seems they dont keep kids at home anymore, just bring to the lanes and let the scream and play unattended.
Shipper
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A tournament is understandable, but I get used to it. The things that irritate me are screaming unattended children, lane courtesy and mouthing off after a strike/split/miss. You get the picture...
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"Yeah but the Brunswick ones get all ten though" -Brad Angelo
"*shakes head* Commercial breaks..." -Pete Weber
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¡Viva la nación!
Post by: DON DRAPER on January 28, 2007, 09:12:02 PM
Post by: hskrntx on January 29, 2007, 09:46:40 AM
DUH
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Post by: Rev_O on January 29, 2007, 09:51:08 AM
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Post by: directdrill on January 29, 2007, 09:56:10 AM
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I don't think there's a cell phone out there that can't be put on "vibrate"!? Put it on vibrate and in your pocket! No noise, and you still know when it goes off!
DUH
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Husker,
Right on! That is the simplest solution to a simple problem. I always turn mine to vibrate when I walk in the center.
I have a teammate that left his cell phone on ring tone one Friday night. We had a gentleman in the league that had bowled in that league for 40 years and he passed away. After practice and prior to starting our first game, a moment of silence was called for and this clown's cell phone goes off. You can't even imagine the shame.
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Post by: chrisleftwich on January 29, 2007, 10:02:12 AM
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Post by: scotts33 on January 29, 2007, 10:06:44 AM
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For me I have to have my cell phone at all times. I am on call and if that call comes through I have to go, sorry but the military doesn't care if you are bowling or what not.
Does vibrate work? Wondering.
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Post by: shipper50 on January 29, 2007, 12:48:48 PM
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For me I have to have my cell phone at all times. I am on call and if that call comes through I have to go, sorry but the military doesn't care if you are bowling or what not.
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Gee I am glad we have such important military men and women in the US that if they get a call they have to answer and leave as soon as they hear their cells ring no matter what they are doing. I wonder how this country got along for about 190 years without cell phones?
Shipper
Post by: LuckyLefty on January 29, 2007, 12:56:13 PM
Sir..."that is $25,000"!
That would get someone to think about it!
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Post by: directdrill on January 29, 2007, 12:57:30 PM
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I like a rule for major pro tournies...if the cell phone goes off during a shot and player loses due to a bad frame THAT frame.....you make up the difference between the actual placing and ultimate placing of the winner.
Sir..."that is $25,000"!
That would get someone to think about it!
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Good idea. I would be willing to bet EVERYONE would have their phone on vibrate.
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Post by: WSUstroker on January 29, 2007, 01:10:14 PM
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Post by: janderson on January 29, 2007, 01:17:54 PM
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Who really cares if a cell phone goes off when you are bowling league? There are many other sounds going on around you, want them to go away too? In a tournament situation, sure, put the damn phone away unless you absolutely need it, but in league, come on, let it go.
Absolutely. Even run of the mill tournament settings don't compare to the silence of the PBA set as a competitor is on the approach getting ready to make a shot. That's not to defend the cell phone junkies, but their problem shouldn't bother your league bowling.
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Post by: jr_300 on January 29, 2007, 02:34:31 PM
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Post by: shelley on January 29, 2007, 02:40:39 PM
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every tournament ryan shafer bowls he has his cell at his side.. even the show in new york he has it next to him.. during qualifying the same thing.
You sure that's not his insulin pump? It was mentioned on the show last year.
SH
Post by: JessN16 on January 29, 2007, 03:42:40 PM
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For me I have to have my cell phone at all times. I am on call and if that call comes through I have to go, sorry but the military doesn't care if you are bowling or what not.
Does vibrate work? Wondering.
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Vibrate works if you keep it in your pocket; I can't. My arm swing is so tight to my side I'll knock if off if it's on my belt or on my pocket.
I typically keep mine in the bag under my seat behind the pit area, anyway. It's muffled in there and you have to be sitting right there to hear it. You can't hear it on the approach whatsoever.
At that point, I feel I've done enough in regards to courtesy, as it can only be heard outside the bowler's area.
Jess
Post by: Pat Patterson on January 29, 2007, 03:49:23 PM
Also, a cell phone went off on Billy's down swing but he struck, and another time just before he stopped after a couple of steps into his approach the House desk phone went off. I guess people really don't take them seriously when they announce several times before the telecast to turn off all cell phones.
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Post by: serice on January 29, 2007, 04:47:52 PM
League ... who cares. Everybody is noisy, just one more noise.
Bowling for $25,000 and the room is basically quiet... big deal!
Post by: shipper50 on January 29, 2007, 07:57:49 PM
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For me I have to have my cell phone at all times. I am on call and if that call comes through I have to go, sorry but the military doesn't care if you are bowling or what not.
Does vibrate work? Wondering.
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Scott
Vibrate works if you keep it in your pocket; I can't. My arm swing is so tight to my side I'll knock if off if it's on my belt or on my pocket.
I typically keep mine in the bag under my seat behind the pit area, anyway. It's muffled in there and you have to be sitting right there to hear it. You can't hear it on the approach whatsoever.
At that point, I feel I've done enough in regards to courtesy, as it can only be heard outside the bowler's area.
Jess
I am kinda old at 56 so you will have to bare with me here. Do you have another side you could wear you cell on vibrate and then feel it go off? I have never heard such BS in my life as you just said. That is the problem with today's world. No one gives any courtesy to anyone.
I pity the person that has their cell go off if and when I ever get the first 11 again and I am up trying for my first 300 after bowling off and on for 30 plus years.
Shipper
Post by: WSUstroker on January 29, 2007, 08:23:17 PM
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Post by: scotts33 on January 29, 2007, 10:28:26 PM
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Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on January 29, 2007, 10:29:38 PM
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Soooo, what did we do without cell phones????? How did we survive???
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Post by: JessN16 on January 29, 2007, 11:01:08 PM
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For me I have to have my cell phone at all times. I am on call and if that call comes through I have to go, sorry but the military doesn't care if you are bowling or what not.
Does vibrate work? Wondering.
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Scott
Vibrate works if you keep it in your pocket; I can't. My arm swing is so tight to my side I'll knock if off if it's on my belt or on my pocket.
I typically keep mine in the bag under my seat behind the pit area, anyway. It's muffled in there and you have to be sitting right there to hear it. You can't hear it on the approach whatsoever.
At that point, I feel I've done enough in regards to courtesy, as it can only be heard outside the bowler's area.
Jess
I am kinda old at 56 so you will have to bare with me here. Do you have another side you could wear you cell on vibrate and then feel it go off? I have never heard such BS in my life as you just said. That is the problem with today's world. No one gives any courtesy to anyone.
I pity the person that has their cell go off if and when I ever get the first 11 again and I am up trying for my first 300 after bowling off and on for 30 plus years.
Shipper
Let me repeat what I just said: If you are sitting on top of my bag in the setee area behind the pit, you'll hear it.
If you're on the approach or in the pit, you will not.
At that point, I have taken the courtesy to not bother you with it in the pit or on the approach. What goes on in the setee area -- we're talking 20 feet behind the pit in my bowling center -- is no business of the bowler. That's where family members sit, and their phones aren't off, either.
If I couldn't carry my phone into the bowling center, I wouldn't be able to bowl. You guys can talk about what life was like before cell phones all you want. There was once life without cars, too. The point is we have them now, and some of us ARE ALWAYS ON CALL WITH OUR JOBS, DAY AND NIGHT, YEAR-ROUND.
To recap, I am doing my best to not have it bug other people. No one besides me has ever heard my phone ring but me.
And since that's true, it's really nobody's business but mine.
Jess
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on January 29, 2007, 11:07:28 PM
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Post by: JessN16 on January 29, 2007, 11:54:04 PM
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Jess, if you've made efforts to try to keep the noise to a minimum, or in this case, all but non-existent, you're being very cordial. It's the ones that fail to even adjust their ringer volume, identifying their next woefully-unimportant conversation that could have been completely avoided, that should be publicly flogged and forced to view current nudes of Janet Reno.
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I also don't take personal calls on it during league. I suspect I've answered a total of 10 calls over the last three years, total. All but two of them were from work. The two that weren't were when my wife's grandmother had a heart attack and was hospitalized, and a family emergency involving her brother last year. She knows league night is my "night out" and doesn't bother me unless we have an emergency.
There are people who leave their phones on, and lying on top of the computers in the middle of the pit, with a rap-rock ring tone and it drives me nuts. I had a teammate once about six years go answer the phone, carry it onto the approach, throw at a spare while talking on the phone -- while talking on the phone! -- and make it, a 3-6-10, and never once stop the conversation. I didn't know whether to laugh or throw up.
I run a smalltown newspaper for a living. At any moment, the press could break down, a gas main downtown could blow up or we could have a shootout. We have a staff of five people, so it's not like we really have much of a choice. I've gotten calls from the chief of police at 4 a.m. when I'm in bed at home to tell me about a bad wreck. I've also gotten called away from an anniversary dinner with my wife at a restaurant before -- she was real happy with that, let me tell you.
I do what I can, but there's a point at which another person has to learn to deal with the reality that cell phones are here to stay, and that their dislike for cell phones isn't my problem to deal with, but their own. I've done my part to compromise, but I won't apologize for having to have it to make a living.
Jess
Post by: Gunny on January 30, 2007, 07:01:51 AM
i too am on call 24/7 and trust me with all the ambience noise on a league night, if your phone was in your bag not many people will hear it. i check mine periodically for important/emergency calls. but usually they all know that its my night out from work, wife, kids, that not too bother me unless a serious emergency. personally i cant stand cell phones, but it is part of society and i deal with it. and i agree with everyone else that people need to be banned for it if it goes off during a televised event. than again people dont have common sense like years ago. its almost nonexistent nowadays!
Post by: shipper50 on January 30, 2007, 07:13:05 AM
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Post by: korkey299 on January 30, 2007, 07:30:53 AM
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What about all the bowlers who have cell phones on during league because they are so IMPORTANT they cant miss a call? I bowled a tournament last Sunday and this guy next to my pair phone goes off 2 times. I am a big guy, he is a big guy, nothing was said and I guess he turned it down. Didn't hear it again.
Shipper
does it really bother you when a phone goes off? you're not bowling in a tournament, bowling in a big bowling ally with a bunch of lanes going at once i'm surprised that one cell phone bothers you with the rest of the noise. plus you're not bowling in a place that supposed to be quiet when the bowlers are bowling. if cell phones were a real problem for most people they would have rules about those things, settle down its just league you're not in the big times, bowling has gotten to serious in some of the leagues, it should be a place to have fun and it is for some people but it isn't for just as many people. i go to leagues to have fun and when i work i try to joke around with the guys there and they enjoy themselves. you get too many guys that take it seriously that its like they're going for the world series or the tournament of champions. there was this one time where a lane broke down to where it wouldn't pick up any pins and they had one game left, so we had no other choice but to move them and the guy freaked out and was being a *** towards me and i was just about to swear at him it wasn't that the lane broke down he was mad about, it was about he had to be moved. i'm rambling sorry i just wish people would have more fun with bowling instead of taking it so seriously, maybe going for a 300 i'd be mad.
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Post by: shipper50 on January 30, 2007, 08:16:20 AM
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What about all the bowlers who have cell phones on during league because they are so IMPORTANT they cant miss a call? I bowled a tournament last Sunday and this guy next to my pair phone goes off 2 times. I am a big guy, he is a big guy, nothing was said and I guess he turned it down. Didn't hear it again.
Shipper
does it really bother you when a phone goes off? you're not bowling in a tournament, bowling in a big bowling ally with a bunch of lanes going at once i'm surprised that one cell phone bothers you with the rest of the noise. plus you're not bowling in a place that supposed to be quiet when the bowlers are bowling. if cell phones were a real problem for most people they would have rules about those things, settle down its just league you're not in the big times, bowling has gotten to serious in some of the leagues, it should be a place to have fun and it is for some people but it isn't for just as many people. i go to leagues to have fun and when i work i try to joke around with the guys there and they enjoy themselves. you get too many guys that take it seriously that its like they're going for the world series or the tournament of champions. there was this one time where a lane broke down to where it wouldn't pick up any pins and they had one game left, so we had no other choice but to move them and the guy freaked out and was being a *** towards me and i was just about to swear at him it wasn't that the lane broke down he was mad about, it was about he had to be moved. i'm rambling sorry i just wish people would have more fun with bowling instead of taking it so seriously, maybe going for a 300 i'd be mad.
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High Score: 299 ringing 10
High Series: 723 (223, 299, 201<-shaking to death)
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Animal Untamed: medium-heavy oil
Equation: medium oil
Intense Inferno(polished): dry lanes
Yes it bothers me when a cell phone goes off when I am bowling. Its an invasion of my privacy. I take bowling very seriously, its the only thing I do for recreation and I pay to have the 2.5-3 hours to do something I enjoy.
As for the noise in a bowling alley, if it was so loud you couldn't hear the phones go off, I would bowl with ear plugs. If you want to bowl and have fun so be it, but someday when you get older you just might bowl with someone who knows how to bowl and knows the etiquette of bowling and that doesn't include listening to someone talk on their cell or have them go off when they are on the lanes.
Shipper
Post by: kalannar on January 30, 2007, 09:45:07 AM
As for paging from the front desk, again our house is very loud and the intercom is even louder. If you are having a conversation, you have to pause in mid sentence until they are done with the announcement because you can't hear the other person. To me the intercomm is more annoying than cell phones, except when they are on the persons ear when they should be bowling. I hate having to wait on people because they are on the phone. I always call back or answer right after my turn and end the call promptly before my turn.
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Post by: JessN16 on January 30, 2007, 09:47:55 AM
You have no expectation of privacy in the public areas of a bowling alley, thus a cell phone going off is no invasion of your privacy or anyone else's.
Yes, I've been paged on the bowling alley house phone. In my center, the speakers for the bowling center's paging system are about 100 times louder than a cell phone and they're directly over the lanes. It's much more of a distraction to hear that thing go off than any cell phone. It's bad enough hearing "LANE 22, YOUR ORDER IS READY" without having to hear people getting paged to the phone right and left.
When you first voiced your complaint, I could sympathize with you because there are people who are too cavalier with their phone usage, but now you're just being unreasonable. If you want to pursue a life without cell phones, you're free to do so in your own home. Once you step out into public, you can't control that environment anymore.
Jess
Post by: shipper50 on January 30, 2007, 12:33:48 PM
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Throwing your last balls for a 300 games, bowling in a league, bowling in a tournament, etc... who really gives a damn if a phone goes off? I don't see how people get so distracted during any of those situations? Bowling centers are very noisy places with lots of people. When I get up to bowl I hear absolutely nothing. I had a 300 game Monday and I can tell you that I heard NOTHING when I got up there to throw my last ball and people were still chatting and bowling around me. Someone could have yelled my name and I wouldn't have heard it. People just need something to b!tch about I guess...
Yeah I guess I need something to bit-h about. I guess your so good you don't hear anything anywhere anytime when your bowling. How about this? How about the kid who hit my truck about 2 weeks ago when we were passing each other on a country road. He was driving to fast down a curve and when he smacked my mirror and caused $194.06 in damage, guess what he said when I asked him why he was on my side of the road? HIS CELL WENT OFF AND DISTRACTED HIM.
So I am done posting on this subject. I can see if and when you all have posted that cells are just the way it is, just hope you don't get hit head on someday by someone who just happens to be talking on their cell.
Shipper
Post by: korkey299 on January 30, 2007, 01:00:24 PM
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Yeah I guess I need something to bit-h about. I guess your so good you don't hear anything anywhere anytime when your bowling. How about this? How about the kid who hit my truck about 2 weeks ago when we were passing each other on a country road. He was driving to fast down a curve and when he smacked my mirror and caused $194.06 in damage, guess what he said when I asked him why he was on my side of the road? HIS CELL WENT OFF AND DISTRACTED HIM.
Shipper
ya but this is bowling, there's no life at stake here. bowling is supposed to be fun, if you're so serious about bowling and if things like that happen in tournaments THEN i understand but during a league? sure you pay to bowl and you pay to have fun. if this issue happens to soo many bowlers in league why isn't a rule, the fact is most people don't care or it doesn't bother them. i know people that have gotten more mad at me for running down the lane to get a pin out of the gutter 5 lanes away than for cell phones. here's what i think and agree or disagree cell phones in league who cares, its their choice, cell phones in pro bowling BAD!! or tournaments
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High Score: 299 ringing 10
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The One: heavy oil
Animal Untamed: medium-heavy oil
Equation: medium oil
Intense Inferno(polished): dry lanes
Post by: Gunny on January 30, 2007, 01:01:37 PM