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charlest

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Shark show
« on: December 26, 2010, 04:22:36 AM »
Sucked.

Not bad bowling, but horrendous, abysmal conditions.
Survival of the luckiest - where's the skill involved to win?
Pathetic.
can't imagine a non-bowler trying to find entertainment value in this.
Small wonder bowling is doomed.
PBA board of directors - Wake the bleep up!
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Dan Belcher

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Re: Shark show
« Reply #46 on: December 28, 2010, 07:12:45 AM »
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People want to see homeruns, touchdowns, birdies and eagles, strikes, etc.
I like seeing small ball with stolen bases and the occasional double. I like defensive battles between the Steelers and Ravens. I like the rarer birdies in the Masters and US Open. And I like seeing the pros bowl on tough but playable conditions. They can handle the 40 foot flat US Open pattern pretty well and that's about as tough as conditions theoretically should get. Of course those are all not considering the extreme cases of super sloppy play. But you get my point. I don't like constantly seeing home runs and strikes. It gets boring if that's all you ever see and it's not special anymore.

The problem here wasn't the PBA's fault. It was the players. If you don't want to put yourself in jail, break the lanes down smarter. Don't burn up the middle of the lane and leave yourself already laying it down three boards right of the gutter in frame 1 of game 1.
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Dogtown

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Re: Shark show
« Reply #47 on: December 28, 2010, 07:15:47 AM »
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Unfortunately, I think the PBA will be dead in 3-5 years.


That's giving them a lot of credit.  I don't see it lasting more than 2.  If bowlers can't stand watching it, who else will?
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bhman79

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Re: Shark show
« Reply #48 on: December 28, 2010, 07:43:55 AM »
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Until the casual viewer can get an idea of the challenges facing a bowler without having it shoved down their throat without a real world example besides a colored graphic or lane length piece of carpet, the PBA is in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation with the way today's amateur and league bowling game is. Real bowlers understand the difference between a huge THS wall and a brutally broken down Shark pattern but the casual viewer is just going to wonder what the heck is going on, considering they can go bowling and hook the entire lane with a house ball and strike. But let them bowl on the soft league conditions and it will just become a carry contest with skill not being a premium.

I personally enjoyed the entire show, bowling wise that is. But I really don't know what the PBA are supposed to do to try and satisfy the bowling masses as well as generate a wide viewing audience with the game you have today and you aren't exactly flush with sponsorship and no one is willing to throw multi millions around just for the heck of it.


I think that is the problem.  They are trying to educate and impress the casual viewer and at the same time abandoning the people who actually bowl in a league or two and have taken the time to learn.  Do they really think that the casual viewers and open bowlers are the ones who tune in each and every week to watch bowling?  If they do then they are idiots.  You don't cater to someone who has no desire to be your customer while you throw your real customers under the bus.  That business will die, and die quickly.
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bhman79

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Re: Shark show
« Reply #49 on: December 28, 2010, 07:48:03 AM »
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Unfortunately, I think the PBA will be dead in 3-5 years.


That's giving them a lot of credit.  I don't see it lasting more than 2.  If bowlers can't stand watching it, who else will?


Exactly...bowlers are the people who watch every Sunday and just by reading the forum on this website you can tell that the bowlers aren't liking this.  We get to hear about Fagan enjoying the Piano, meanwhile we are missing half of the match.  Not giving your customers what they want...actual bowling!
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ccrider

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Re: Shark show
« Reply #50 on: December 28, 2010, 04:27:26 PM »
Why was there a problem with the bowling?? I must have missed something. I thought the bowling was entertaining. Truly tough conditions, that the pros struggled to score on. I would like to see more of that.

Everything else about the show was a bust. It would have been nice to have the bowler that lost the previous match, sit in the booth and help to explain what he perceived was going on in the next match.
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J_w73

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Re: Shark show
« Reply #51 on: December 28, 2010, 06:51:30 PM »
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Why was there a problem with the bowling?? I must have missed something. I thought the bowling was entertaining. Truly tough conditions, that the pros struggled to score on. I would like to see more of that.

Everything else about the show was a bust. It would have been nice to have the bowler that lost the previous match, sit in the booth and help to explain what he perceived was going on in the next match.
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good idea...
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sigmaphi9

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Re: Shark show
« Reply #52 on: December 29, 2010, 02:30:33 AM »
The problem is, I can shoot a 140 on a tough condition. So can the rest of you.  

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Why was there a problem with the bowling?? I must have missed something. I thought the bowling was entertaining. Truly tough conditions, that the pros struggled to score on.
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riggs

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Re: Shark show
« Reply #53 on: December 29, 2010, 03:58:13 AM »
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Interesting article and probably the angle the PBA will try to spin off of. It won't sell since no one who bowls is watching.



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