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Choke of the Century 215-214
« on: January 27, 2008, 03:55:39 AM »
Michael Haugen Jr. wins.  Barnes chokes again by missing a 1-pin spare.

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Re: Choke of the Century 215-214
« Reply #46 on: January 27, 2008, 07:50:04 PM »
No other lefties????????
 The name Steve Cook comes to mind.
 Earl not being able to compete with today's players,conditions and equipment????? We already had this debate a few weeks back concerning Tiger and Jack Nicklaus. With the ability that we have to be able to match a player's ball speed,rev rate,etc to todays equipment,and with his mental game,Earl would easily win tournaments.

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Re: Choke of the Century 215-214
« Reply #47 on: January 27, 2008, 07:53:15 PM »
one more comment. what was said here about ryan is completely true. he does the best with his more limited game/style. i think that applies to michael haugen as well. i don't think is very versatile (in comparison to people like norm duke or even barnes) and likely won't win a boatload of titles when it is all said and done. does that mean he is not incredibly good. absolutely not. i (along with everyone here) would kill to be 1/2 as mediocre as he is. i was impressed that he didn't give up. served him well today.
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Re: Choke of the Century 215-214
« Reply #48 on: January 27, 2008, 08:01:16 PM »
Like many, I can't say I'm unhappy to see Barnes choke yet again.  I lost all respect for him a few years ago when he was in the Philly area.

Friday night, Game 7 against Voss, everyone else was finished.  The best Voss could shoot was in the 240's, and Barnes had the front nine with the match wrapped up.  With everyone in the center watching, what does he do?  He picks up his Miller Lite spare ball and throws at the 1-2 pocket and gets a 6 count (1-3-6-10).  He totally ignored the fans who wanted to see the 300.  Or, maybe he didn't want to take the chance he couldn't perform in the 10th...hmmmm...

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Re: Choke of the Century 215-214
« Reply #49 on: January 27, 2008, 09:51:02 PM »
joegunn - it's a "respect" thing. If the match is locked up and total pins has no bearing on the standings, it's sometimes considered rude to bang out a 300 against your opponent. It has nothing at all to do with the fans. Anyway - in today's inflated scoring environment, it's unlikely that bowlers and fans haven't already seen enough 300 games.
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Re: Choke of the Century 215-214
« Reply #50 on: January 28, 2008, 01:59:42 AM »
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Some of you posting in this thread need to be realistic.

Pros are not above analysis from the masses simply because they're more talented than us. That's a given. But fans in all sports have a "right" to speak. Don't think for a minute they don't.

Some of you can't equate a very factual point of analysis with anything other than a slam. I've never met Barnes, so I can't speak for or against him as a person.

But as a bowler, today in the TOC? He choked. Choked. Say it, learn it, live it, he choked. A professional bowler in that spot in that tournament should NEVER miss a 10-pin or any other single pin.

It's not about how many 10s I've missed in my life, or if I'm as good as Barnes. If we limit criticism of Barnes to it coming from people who are as good as he is, no one on this site could say anything and neither could 75 percent of the exempt field, either.

But that's not how analysis works. The only thing that matters when analyzing something is if you are smart enough to know what you're talking about.

Today's miss was, IMO, bigger than Ballard's gutterball. Ballard needed something like 7 pins to win and had been playing an outside line all day when he guttered. Barnes needed to throw a plastic ball straight at the 10. He didn't have to play an angle or worry about revs. Just hit one pin.

Haugen deserves major credit for hanging in this game and never giving up. Luck is when preparation meets opportunity and Haugen was prepared for his opportunity when it arrived.

However, he never would have had a chance had Barnes not committed a completely indefensible mistake at a crucial moment in a tournament of epic proportions. That, folks, is the working definition of "choke" in the professional athletic sense.

I don't hate Chris Barnes. But he choked.

Jess


Couldn't have put better myself if I had all weekend and a dictionary. This is probably the best statement I've read yet. Way to hit the nail on the head, Jess.
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Re: Choke of the Century 215-214
« Reply #51 on: January 28, 2008, 07:12:43 AM »
Probably one of my favorite matches in a long time.  Unbelievable and I was kind of half paying attention (so were the announcers) when he missed that 10 pin.  Had to do a double take.  Did that actually just happen?  Then I all could do was root for Haugen more than I already was.
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Re: Choke of the Century 215-214
« Reply #52 on: January 28, 2008, 08:28:34 AM »
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Hey catchaclue61, why dont you get a clue!!! You state you teach your kids to be everything Barnes is not. What a shame for those kids. Chris Barnes is a guy that you should be modeling the future off of. He is a class act on and off of the lanes. The guy has great family values and should be looked at as a role model for the PBA tour. In my experience he has always been very open to talk to and always willing to sign autographs for kids. There are some of the top players you cannot say the same thing about. Chris is very focused on his job and you will not see him hanging out at the bar afterwards getting smashed, or starting conflict like other PBA professionals have.  So I guess it all depends on what you are wanting to teach the kids, to be a true professional of the game or just another house hack.



Track900,
     You say Chris Barnes is a class act on and off the lanes...did he act so after his loss yesterday? I don't think so, he stormed off the set barely shaking Haugen's hand. That isn't class. This was an opportunity to show real class and congratulate Haugen for his great bowling, he did not take it.

Barnes has also shown this lack of class in the past. During college, he felt he was better then most other bowlers (which he was) and made sure everyone knew it. He treated bowlers who were on what he considered inferior teams, as I was, like dirt and wouldn't even give you the time of day. To be fair, there were others on the Wichita team that acted that way as well, Lonnie Walicek comes to mind. Maybe these "chokes" are karma coming back to him for acting this way. To add to that Walicek has had his share of "chokes" too while on tour. I will not disagree with his taking the time for kids that you mentioned, probably the birth of his own sons showed him the joy that can come from children. But as far as showing class, Barnes has on more then one occassion showed none, yesterday being the most recent.
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Re: Choke of the Century 215-214
« Reply #53 on: January 28, 2008, 08:35:39 AM »
All the Barnes bashing aside, how many of you would switch shoes with Barnes in a second to be on the tour?
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Re: Choke of the Century 215-214
« Reply #54 on: January 28, 2008, 08:36:52 AM »
I would!
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Re: Choke of the Century 215-214
« Reply #55 on: January 28, 2008, 08:39:02 AM »
just curious how some are saying that huagen made a "ballsy" move by switching balls after the 5th frame.  For god's sakes he had a 76 in the 5th.  He'd been an idiot for not making a move.  What was he gonna blow, having a chance for a 152.
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Re: Choke of the Century 215-214
« Reply #56 on: January 28, 2008, 08:40:57 AM »
he has continued to show class, he has lost his edge...just because he blew the TOC and didnt shake haugens hand doesnt mean anything...he needs to become more of an ars to people, more of a me against the world attitude and he wouldnt melt down as often...he had a million things running through his head and im sure being happy for MH wasnt one of them...MH should have run to him and thanked him for giving him the tourney!
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Re: Choke of the Century 215-214
« Reply #57 on: January 28, 2008, 08:41:12 AM »
Instant classic.
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Re: Choke of the Century 215-214
« Reply #58 on: January 28, 2008, 08:56:53 AM »
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he has continued to show class, he has lost his edge...just because he blew the TOC and didnt shake haugens hand doesnt mean anything...he needs to become more of an ars to people, more of a me against the world attitude and he wouldnt melt down as often...he had a million things running through his head and im sure being happy for MH wasnt one of them...MH should have run to him and thanked him for giving him the tourney!
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Nice way to think there Chad.....based on your signature if the Alabama QB throws an interception to LSU that costs his team the game, should the Alabama coach not go shake hands with the LSU coach? Should Miles Thank Him for handing them the game? This is the lamest thing I have ever heard. You can still have the "killer instinct" and have class. Earl Anthony was a prime example. This is just an excuse to try to rationalize Barnes' classlessness, nothing more.
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Re: Choke of the Century 215-214
« Reply #59 on: January 28, 2008, 09:31:39 AM »
I missed the telecast...when did Barnes miss the single pin?  10th frame?  If so, come on, guys, you would have been pissed also.  Maybe he shook his hand in a more gentlemenly manner after the cameras stopped rolling.
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Re: Choke of the Century 215-214
« Reply #60 on: January 28, 2008, 09:34:21 AM »
No.  he missed the ten in the 9th
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