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Title: Chris Barnes is
Post by: pate08 on February 10, 2008, 04:03:43 AM
THE BEST BOWLER ON THE PLANET! You can't even doubt that now, all the bad breaks, chokes, bad games and everything that has happened to him, he still makes it back more than anyone and now WINS! Congrats Chris, you DEFINITELY deserve it.
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: bighook69 on February 10, 2008, 12:13:35 PM
Best on the Planet???? No chance. Chris is a great bowler, but to say he is the best on the Planet... get real.
Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: pate08 on February 10, 2008, 12:15:48 PM
Name one person that is better than him. If you say Walter Ray, you are wrong.
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: roguetwo on February 10, 2008, 12:33:55 PM
how can that be wrong? WRW has 40+ titles and is clutch on TV...Barnes bowled great today...but best on the planet...no way
Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: grizfan on February 10, 2008, 12:33:58 PM
If Walter Ray were on TV and up by 50 something pins after 6 frames, there is no way he loses that game. I agree that Barnes is a good (not great) bowler but great bowlers do not lose 50+ pins leads after 6 frames in a major championship finale.
Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: bighook69 on February 10, 2008, 12:36:44 PM
Pete Weber, Walter Ray (... yeah i went there), Norm Duke, Tommy Jones (went there to), Parker Bohn... a lot more

Once you get to the Pro level you pretty much, skill wise just peak off, its all mental from there in, including ball choice, how to play the lanes, your own desire to win. Chris is good, no one doubts that, but the best? No.
Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: strikenout on February 10, 2008, 12:43:02 PM
if he would of one at least 15 by now i would say he is the best but tommy jones has won more titles in less time. i think in 10 years tommy jones will be the best.
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: pate08 on February 10, 2008, 12:59:38 PM
Y'all are talking about who has had the best career, I am talking about who is the best bowler, who has the most skill. WRW, PDW, PB3 have all been on tour like 20 more years than Barnes, you can't compare the careers. Right now, Barnes is the best in the world. Most tv appearances this year, a title, top on POY points. This guy is amazing and more than a great bowler, he is the best.
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: 65er on February 10, 2008, 01:03:31 PM
To all you CB bashers....HOW DO YOU LIKE ME NOW!!!
Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: Rileybowler on February 10, 2008, 01:03:55 PM
Chris showed today why he is a great bowler, he bowled where no one else was bowling had a great look, even Tommy Jones tried to bowl where Chris was bowling to no avail. Chris deserves a lot of credit , having said that you aren't the best on the whole planet by winning one tournament nor by winning twenty , if you want to be the best then you have to beat the best and he is a long ways from that but he is a great bowler and proved it today although a lot of people were rooting against him a job well done
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: jkiser01 on February 10, 2008, 01:04:14 PM
Right now Barnes is bowling better than anyone else on tour... He is better than WRW, Weber or anyone else you throw out there..

Career wise, obviously not as good as WRW and his 40+ titles but the last 4 weeks he has been the best, period..

Where are all the Barnes haters now, eating crowe, thats where!! LOL..

Way to go Chris, congrats!!
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: sdbowler on February 10, 2008, 01:05:02 PM
Chris is a great bowler but I would not say the best. He has 9 more PBA titles then I will ever have so I am not putting him down at all. Until he can get his mental game to match his physical game there will be plenty of guys ahead of him. Once he gets the mental game all the time like he did today then he will push the other that have already been said for the best in the game. Congrats to Chris what a great showing.
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: Urameshii6 on February 10, 2008, 01:12:03 PM
Walter Ray was almost dead even with Loschetter midway through a title match and when Chris faltered, Walter just took advantage and pulled away, never once losing sight of what he was doing(Great Lakes Classic). He lost to Mike Wolfe because of bad pin carry(usually the case when WRW loses), not a mental flub. That's just two examples from earlier in the season. What it really boils down to is who has better mental game. If Barnes had the mental game that Walter Ray has and was on tour for as long, I have no doubt in my mind that he would have as many titles if not more. Barnes is definitely one of the best physical talents on tour, but to say that he is better than Walter is a gross overstatement.

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Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: Gazoo on February 10, 2008, 01:29:53 PM
I don't know how you define "best bowler on the planet", but if you are talking about who bowls the best on all patterns verus those who only bowl well on certain patterns that suit their game, then Barnes is the one.
Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: bighook69 on February 10, 2008, 01:46:22 PM
The phrase "Best on the Planet" is incorrect, the phrase "best this week" is correct...
Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: Rev_O on February 10, 2008, 01:57:39 PM
Not the best IMO, One of the top players of today, yes. Today'd win gives him 9 titles I think with 57 TV appearances. He need to learn to win on TV b4 you can call him the best of the best!
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: Urameshii6 on February 10, 2008, 01:59:58 PM
Okay, he lost to Wolfe in the Etonic Championship(blew the tenth)-Scorpian: He lost to Wes on the Chameleon in the Lake County Classic: He had a terrible game against Brad Angelo(Brad didn't do good himself) in the Windy City-Shark: Lost in the Dick Weber Open(won't count that against him): Culminated in the TOC where he BLEW a ten pin spare and let Haugen right back in the match. 90% percent of what I just put up here is the result of bad mental game. What seperates the pros from everyone else? Consistency and strong mental game. That's what I based "the best bowler on the planet" phrase on. That's why I say that Chris has some work to do before he can be considered that. I'd love to see Chris win more. When he exorcises those mental demons, he will do just that and can be considered "the best bowler on the planet".
Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: Juggernaut on February 10, 2008, 02:17:11 PM
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Name one person that is better than him. If you say Walter Ray, you are wrong.
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Better?
  According to you, that is a matter of opinion.  You discount wins, total wins, money made, and several other factors and try to name him world's greatest simply on your opinion of his talent.

  In that reference, there are MANY that I hold in higher esteem than Barnes, with Duke being one of them, along with Weber ( whom I also don't like ), along with quite a few more.

 
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To all you CB bashers....HOW DO YOU LIKE ME NOW!!!


  I think you are still the braindead, idol worshipping nut that you will always be concerning Barnes.

  Why can't you just come in here and say that Chris performed great today and deserved to win ( because this is the truth ) instead of coming in a trying to make an empirical statement based on only one occurence?

  Chris is good.  He showed that today, but he is NOT the best bowler on the planet, and hes also not very personable from what I have experienced.
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: Dynoboy on February 10, 2008, 02:24:02 PM
Do not compare Barnes to Walter Ray, you want to know how good Barnes is? Very simple. Compare PBA final appereances versus wins. That will give give you an idea.
Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: roguetwo on February 10, 2008, 02:41:03 PM
Yes Barnes deserved to win today and is a great talent on tour...but best on the planet...I say again...no way...if i was putting a team together and had to pick on bowler to be put in a spot to come up big for my team...Barnes wouldnt be in my top ten thats for sure...not until he can show that he can preform on the big stage (such as a major)...could he beat me...of course he could and he would 10 out of 10 times...but thats not the issue..and i am in no way bashing Chris...he is one of my favorite to watch...but not best on the planet...
Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: Mr Ed Onkey on February 10, 2008, 02:43:03 PM
Barnes is one of the best bowlers on the planet. He is in the top 5.
Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: morpheus on February 10, 2008, 03:03:11 PM
Week in and week out from every part of the lane, he's been the best for a while.  I like Ballard's nicknames for Barnes, take your pick:

GBOP (Greatest Bowler On The Planet)
Son of Jor-El (My personal favorite)

Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: tonybowls on February 10, 2008, 04:58:12 PM
I think right now Chris is bowling the best, he really deserved to win. On another note Tommy Jones was not playing where Chris was playing. Tommy was going straight up around 10 where Chris was throwing the ball around 3 board on an angle to the pocket. They were playing 2 completely different lines.
Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: bighook69 on February 10, 2008, 05:59:33 PM
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Tommy Jones is good but there ain't no way in hell that he compares to Barnes, PDW, or WRW. just my opinion


Tommy gets it done on all the patterns, and when he gets to the show, he wins. Chris is a great bowler, and I have met him and talked to him and I think he is a great guy and a better bowler, but with a record of 9 wins in something like 57 shows how can you say he is the best in the world?

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Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: Big Jake on February 10, 2008, 06:51:48 PM
Dale Traber is the best on the Planet
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: vrbowlinfl on February 10, 2008, 07:30:39 PM
I still think that if you put any pressure on him at all, he starts overthinking and most of the time he folds. If he needs a strike or two in tenth, you know most of the times, he will not get it. Yes he won today, but no one got lined up and put no pressure on him what so ever.

I said it in the post couple of weeks ago, I would not be suprised if he made this weeks's show and he did. He is a very versatile bowler and like today you really cannot lock him out on a condition.

Here is my question to you all. What bowler would you put your money on to get up in the tenth and throw two strikes when they are needed? I know I will not put any money on Barnes. I will put my money on many other bowlers before I put a dollar on Barnes so therefore to me he is not the best bowler on the planet
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: handmeDN on February 10, 2008, 07:34:48 PM
Barnes is the Bowler on TOP, right now. Tommorrow someone else may step up and acheive higher. DO NOT count out the rest of the unknown world! handmeDN
Title: Re: Chris Barnes is
Post by: pate08 on February 10, 2008, 09:17:26 PM
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Tommy Jones is good but there ain't no way in hell that he compares to Barnes, PDW, or WRW. just my opinion


Tommy gets it done on all the patterns, and when he gets to the show, he wins. Chris is a great bowler, and I have met him and talked to him and I think he is a great guy and a better bowler, but with a record of 9 wins in something like 57 shows how can you say he is the best in the world?

Edited on 2/10/2008 7:01 PM




Because he has made like 57 shows.......
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