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Title: Chris Barnes--technical question
Post by: agroves on January 27, 2008, 09:54:58 AM
Why is Barnes trying to go so straight?  He never looks completely comfortable with it and it doesn't look natural for him.  I know that "straighter is greater", but it always seems like he misses it, over throws it, or overrotates/pulls it in pressure shots.  

Chris just play your game and make your spares.

Andrew
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes--technical question
Post by: NOTHUMB on January 27, 2008, 06:31:11 PM
I agree 100%. He always tries to play someone elses A game. He is so versatile, its almost a curse.

As I just mentioned in another post, I remember watching him in the past go against WRW,Jr and he would play WRWs line and get beat by 20---probably because WRW was 20 pins better than Barnes on that line. Really wonder what goes through his head when he is trying to figure a shot out.

That said...
Shafers look inside got ugly and Im not sure Barnes look would have been better had he been further in. Im curious how the shot would have shaped up if Barnes had started even wider---try to actually collapse a shot to his own strengths. Just a thought.
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes--technical question
Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on January 27, 2008, 06:43:24 PM
That shot got him there today, so why change?  He throws the ball great, and he was striking.  He missed a spare, that is all it came down to.  I did not see a bad ball reaction from him.

He didn't look uncomfortable to me until he missed the 10, but hey he's there(a lot) we're not...and he makes more money than any of us so why question it?
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes--technical question
Post by: abrown on January 27, 2008, 06:47:21 PM
you can always tell when hes gonna blow it he always sets there thinking about not blowing it and BOOM there it goes. he is yes a great bowler better than any of us in here or we would be on tv. It will be interesting to see how he reacts to the most recent let down. i think that fake foreced smile had to hurt him today when he blew yet another one
Title: Re: Chris Barnes--technical question
Post by: NOTHUMB on January 27, 2008, 06:49:43 PM
Yes he does, and as with QBs of everyones favorite football teams, he is in a position to be watched by us and then criticized. Deal with it.

Fact is, he got away with the tugs in game 1. Even his strike in maybe the 4th or 5th of the title match was a break---could or should have been a half pocket 4 pin. But went down. People dont seem to watch the finer points of his shot-making/pin carry. I love how people "speak into the microphone" over Chris Barnes---but if it were someone less "pretty" then he were, then there would be something wrong with them. His ball reaction was ok---Im not doubting that.

Im also not doubting that the spare was a choke---but the fact remains, his last 4 shots on the right lane (I believe) were 2 pin, 4 pin, 2 pin, 4 pin. Either thats bad ball reaction or bad shotmaking. Which one do you want to call it? (by the way if it wasnt the last 4 shots---it was 4 of the last 5).
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes--technical question
Post by: Joe Jr on January 27, 2008, 06:55:53 PM
I 100% disagree.

Chris has no A, B, C or D game, he is better then just about everyone from anywhere. Troubles winning on television aside, I think he is the most talented player ever to throw a ball no one can beat you from so many angles.
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes--technical question
Post by: agroves on January 27, 2008, 07:01:17 PM
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I am not what exactly what you are talking about, as if you watched the first game and a half, he had the NUTS. He is not uncomfortable at all playing straight. His head generally gets in his way...he bowled well up until that.



He had area the first game.  It went away, period.  I'm not hammering or second guessing his decision.  He was there, I wasn't, I know that.  This has little to do with today and more to do with overall the last year or so.  

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Title: Re: Chris Barnes--technical question
Post by: StormRoto on January 27, 2008, 07:26:07 PM
Well said Ric...!!!!

You bowl a ton of games every week and Chris makes a lot of shows.. The pros will tell you that the TV show can be crap shoot when it comes to ball reaction..compared to what they bowled on all week..
Title: Re: Chris Barnes--technical question
Post by: agroves on January 27, 2008, 07:31:58 PM
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It's easy sitting at home watching...



Chill out.  I said this topic has more to do with his overall game.  I never said he didn't have a great reaction, I just added he had some hold area that went away.  He is the most technically sound bowler I've ever seen, without a doubt.  

Andrew

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Title: Re: Chris Barnes--technical question
Post by: tonybowls on January 27, 2008, 07:32:41 PM
That was well said Ric!!! After Walter Ray Chris is the best at going straight. I really don't know what some of these guys have been watching the last few years.
Title: Re: Chris Barnes--technical question
Post by: agroves on January 27, 2008, 08:06:12 PM
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Andrew not completely directed at you.

Haugen's pretty good at going straight, no?
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Very good.  Like Randy mentioned at the top of the telecast, Haugen decided to go back to what he does best.  Seems to be working for him!
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