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LuckyLefty

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Chris Barnes technique.....
« on: January 05, 2010, 12:27:10 AM »
I believe Chris Barnes is better than ever.  

No more scrunch at the foul line his fairly new long flat spot and beautiful set of fundamentals are better than ever!!  Is it Mark Baker that he is working with?

I believe soon because of his tremendous ability combined with GREAT fundamentals the balance will start to tip in his favor with more wins than loses on TV.  As soon as HE starts to realize the tremendous spread between himself and the rest of the bowlers!

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Re: Chris Barnes technique.....
« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2010, 10:09:44 PM »
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Is Healy still coaching overseas?  I thought Malyasia but I am not sure.  Purvis Granger was a tour player that became a coach somewhere in the far east.  I've never coached and I couldn't teach a fifth grader how to spell but it would seem that there is great personal satisfaction helping others achieve their best.


i thought he was in the middle east and not malaysia
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When a house bowler misses the mark, misses the break point and strike, for many ppl its called a wallshot. When a pro does that its call adjustment

When a house bowler gets his finger stuck in the ball and fall on the lanes, for many ppl its called lame bowler. When a pro does that its called the Machuga flop! ha i like this one.

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Re: Chris Barnes technique.....
« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2010, 10:31:53 PM »
The WTC used to be broadcasted on ESPN.  I remember watching some and I think Earl and Denny were the  broadcasters.  The conditions looked difficult.  

The USBC Nats is still available for the proams to score some dollars on brackets.  I remember adam apo was in my squad last year in team and he nearly won 2k bowling a mid 600.

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Re: Chris Barnes technique.....
« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2010, 10:32:35 PM »
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Is Healy still coaching overseas?  I thought Malyasia but I am not sure.  Purvis Granger was a tour player that became a coach somewhere in the far east.  I''ve never coached and I couldn''t teach a fifth grader how to spell but it would seem that there is great personal satisfaction helping others achieve their best.


i thought he was in the middle east and not malaysia
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When a house bowler misses the mark, misses the break point and strike, for many ppl its called a wallshot. When a pro does that its call adjustment

When a house bowler gets his finger stuck in the ball and fall on the lanes, for many ppl its called lame bowler. When a pro does that its called the Machuga flop! ha i like this one.


Ah, you''re right..maybe it was Dubai?

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Re: Chris Barnes technique.....
« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2010, 12:22:12 AM »
Mr healey is in qatar as a coach

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Re: Chris Barnes technique.....
« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2010, 01:06:31 AM »
To say Barnes had added pressure more then any other is weak. I would say PDW had more pressure then him to be something since his dad is Dick Weber.

These guys were all great bowlers at an early age. Duke beating Earl Anthony at 18 years old on tv would probably have some pressure to go on and be great after that. Amleto Monacelli coming to the U.S. and bowling at 16 or 18 had a lot of pressure. Everybody has a story and a lot more to prove. Greatness in any sport is a dime a dozen and liter the roads traveled to being the best.

Bowling in college and traveling the world as a kid not trying to make a living and provide for himself or others isn''t pressure.

Trying something like that as a pro where if you fail you go home and get a normal job, or if you win you go home back to your other job is a lot more pressure. Trying to get enough money to keep bowling from friends, family, local sponsors or from working over is pressure.

Having things provided for you and going to college isn''t pressure. That is a normal experience for most athletes. Worst thing to happen is you get a degree and a regular job. I''m sure he has great supportive parents and all of that other good stuff. There may have been hardships but who knows.

He wasn''t baring the weight of bowling growing up.
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…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

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Re: Chris Barnes technique.....
« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2010, 02:08:54 PM »
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People on this web site have no idea, and have lost a serious sense of reality.  This is the arm chair quarter back club here.  Watch a few you tube movies, bowl in a mixed drinkers league and all of a sudden they are the expert.

The lunatics have taken over this asylum.

There is just something there with the guy, a sense of urgency, drama and you get the feeling of this quest for greatness just by being there around him.

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That may be your impression because he is your idol/hero. But most people I know think from watching him on tv he comes off as a jerk. I know people that know him and that obviously isn't the case. On tv he comes off as arrogant and most people don't care for that.

"There is just something there with the guy, a sense of urgency, drama and you get the feeling of this quest for greatness just by being there around him."

That is borderline crazy obsessive and embarrassing. You obviously didn't make it too far from this asylum you speak of. I wouldn't bring that up with other people, or Barnes if you ever meet him....or ever really.


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Re: Chris Barnes technique.....
« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2010, 03:07:34 PM »
Actually Pat Healy is coaching in UAE.

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kidlost2000

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Re: Chris Barnes technique.....
« Reply #38 on: January 15, 2010, 03:21:36 PM »
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kidlost, another tough guy clown who thinks he is this big man.   I never knew the internet was a tough guy convention.  Dont like whats said, just  question the guys man hood, call him names, challenge him to a fight, etc.

Not my hero, I think he is a big baby at times, and that gets in the way at times.  

I can judge talent, and the persona that comes with that talent.  Alot of players do not have the attitude, the aura and the general mental mind set of a player thats groomed for greatness.

I've spent enough time in this sport to understand the personalities and the game from a level that none of the arm chair qbs would ever understand.

Do you bowl anything other than your huckleberry bowling center league?   If you would take the time and get out of your bubble, you would understand and witness the differences from good, to greatness in the professional ranks.  You will identify with the urgency that some of these players have, the general attitudes of different types of players.  The mental drama that plays out week to week.

You will never fully understand the life of professional bowling, or any professional sport until your there to take it all in.

"That is borderline crazy obsessive and embarrassing. You obviously didnt make it too far from this asylum you speak of. I wouldn't bring that up with other people, or Barnes if you ever meet him....or ever really." - KidLost

Many people have a persona thats is noticeable.  Donald Trump, Phil Helmuth, Chris Barnes..etc.  People notice the persona and identify it with being different from others.  There seems to be a larger picture at the end of their to do list. Identifying with those personalities has nothing to do with a "man crush", obsession etc, it has to do with the analysis of what makes these type of people more successful than others, and how do you create the same type of persona to take your game to the next level.  If its not something your born with, you have to manufacture it some how.

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Do you read before you type. I only said that Chris Barnes isn't the GREATEST player on tour and he doesn't carry some burden of greatness as previously mentioned. I made reference to other players who are on tour that probably had much more on the line for bowling then Chris Barnes. Go read that first before you start calling me some hack from hick town A,B,or C. Chris Barnes is a no doubt HOF bowler easy.

I also didn't say anything bad about Chris Barnes. So go back a few and read again and find where I did say something bad about Barnes as a bowler, or tour player or having talent. I said I know people who bowled with him and said he is a nice guy. Only that he comes across as a jerk on tv. (not my opinion but many others.) To me he seems too nice, fake. But that might be him, a nice guy, and thats not his fault.

Obviously Barnes is this guys hero which is fine but some of what this guy is saying about Barnes is a bit crazy. Which he brought up because he said the crazies are now running the asylum. So before you call me some bully for no reason go back and read what was actually written and post some proof of your allegations of me being an internet tough guy.  I'll wait.
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Re: Chris Barnes technique.....
« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2010, 03:47:43 PM »
Barnes is a great player talent-wise and student of the game without question.  Probably the best technician to come along in long time maybe ever.  But he is much like Dan Marino was to football, a great player HOF material but never won a Super Bowl and took a back seat to Joe Montana in the day because of it.  Titles measure the greatness because it shows the use of the talent and tools you have.  There in you have to give the nod to WRW, Norm Duke, PBIII and Pete Weber types.  You also have to look at the fact that Barnes is being put against guys like WRW when Walter is beyond his prime even though he is out there winning titles at close to age 50.  Lets face it and I'm sure Walter would tell you he is not at age 50 what he was when he was in his mid to late 30's like Barnes is now so the comparison there is a bit unfair but it is what it is.  WRW has a ton of runner up finishes as well but he doesn't have near as many due to a mental breakdown or blocks/meltdown that has befallen Chris Barnes and that has to be considered in the mix.  Tremdous talent and technician no question.  Greatest ever or even currently I would have to argue that point.  Maybe time will tell for Barnes.  If he is out there winning multiple titles into his mid and late 40's and reaches 25 to 30 titles a case could be made for him because he is repeating what WRW, Norm, PBIII and PDW have already done and adds himself to that list.

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Re: Chris Barnes technique.....
« Reply #40 on: January 15, 2010, 04:43:49 PM »
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Re: Chris Barnes technique.....
« Reply #41 on: January 15, 2010, 07:15:45 PM »
Isn't healey too slow with his ball speed to dominate on the PBA current PBA tour?

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Re: Chris Barnes technique.....
« Reply #42 on: January 15, 2010, 10:03:22 PM »
I timed old videos and he's 2.1-2.2 seconds to the pocket and that's about 18.5-19.0 miles per hour.  That doesn't seem too slow. Thomas Smallwood had the same speed during the World Championship.

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Re: Chris Barnes technique.....
« Reply #43 on: January 16, 2010, 12:50:28 PM »
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Actually Pat Healy is coaching in UAE.

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LuckyLefty

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Re: Chris Barnes technique.....
« Reply #44 on: January 18, 2010, 11:54:16 AM »
I don't believe he is that fast

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LuckyLefty

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Re: Chris Barnes technique.....
« Reply #45 on: January 18, 2010, 11:55:19 AM »
I don't believe he is that fast

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