Author Topic: Cost for PBA Registration (Read 3668 times)

scotts33 · « **on:** November 03, 2004, 01:40:24 AM »

I posted this info. in the Visionary forum but thought others who don't really know the costs involved on PBA product registration might be interested to know.

I had e-mailed John Weber the Midwest PBA director who then referred me to Samantha Mulligan with the PBA in Seattle. Here is the e-mail verbatim.

Hi Scott:

Thanks for inquiring about Product Registration. To be Fully Product Registered at National, Regional and Senior levels the cost is $111,750 and includes TV rights. All Tour Competition gives you the same rights as Full Registration without TV privileges and costs $55,000, if your player was to make TV the cost would be $7,500 per player, per episode. Grassroots costs $35,000 and includes just the Regional and Senior tours. If you have any other questions, or would like a registration package sent to you, please let me know.

Best wishes, Sam

Edited on 11/3/2004 10:40 AM

mumzie · « **Reply #1 on:** November 03, 2004, 12:01:32 PM »

Thoughts?

Seems pretty expensive to me. Pretty well rules out most of the little guys.

You gotta sell a LOT of bowling balls to make up even the "grass roots" level.

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scotts33 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 03, 2004, 12:25:14 PM »

Yes mumzie I agree. This was brought up by the issue that Visionary dropped their Sr. & Regional program this year and Nat'l last year.

MoRich and Lane #1 smaller companies did pick up just last week full registration not sure about their TV deal. Wiseman used a MoRich ball last week and posted on the PBA forum He's mysticcobra89. http://forum.pba.com/ultimatebb.cgi?/ubb/get_topic/f/26/t/000398.html

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Scott

Edited on 11/3/2004 1:25 PM

charlest · « **Reply #3 on:** November 03, 2004, 03:47:49 PM »

As stated in a recent issue of Bowlers' Journal International, this was instituted in the 1990s as, STRICTLY a way for the pBA to raise money. Now, it seems more like a way to "rape" small bowling companies. Like in many business enterprises these days, the "victim" must submit or be forced out of the "business" market. In other words, they might as well cease doing business and go into bankruptcy or foreclosure.

(FYI I do not use those parenthesized words haphazardly nor do I use them lightly.)

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DavidKSNK · « **Reply #4 on:** November 04, 2004, 10:40:22 PM »

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This was all posted on lane#1's site a while backa dn I rmember reading it, and it's not right , it;s like the PBA doesn't want variation on the toru anymore, limited field, only big compainies can even pay for the registration, I mean christ this is ridiculous. The whole exempt field thing is freaking ridiculous, I mean who wants to see the same bowlers week in adn out, the one guy said on the telecast now they can have "rivalries" who the hell wants rivalries in bowling, I think i speak for most of us in sayign we just want the better bowler of the week to show how good he is and win, this way the best bowler could be throwin 180's while there are people out there that would have avergaed a 220 I mean that won't happen but you'll see les variation and lower scores, where's the fun in this. And we've lost legends to this, randy peterson, del ballard, I and I am F*CKING FURIOUS that steve Hoskins is gone, he is one awesome bowler and had one bad year and now he's gone pardon my French but whoever's Idea this was should be shot.I have seen maybe, MAYBE 2 people that back the PBA in this. It completely sucks.
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*sigh*

Actually from a business perspective you want the exempt field.

They clearly stated that they want the fans to become more familiar with the bowlers. This is essential as when you had the qualifying that was open to a larger field you run into the chance someone may make it to TV once and never again. It gets confusing when various bowlers appear on TV and then never make it again.

The exempt field eliminates that issue.

Sure you will lose certain bowlers that certainly have the ability to be on tour but have a bad year thus missing exempt status. It sucks, but you need to be mindful that making a living as a professional bowler is not easy. They have to shell out a fair amount of money to go to each event. It's a risk and you have to know what they are getting into because there are no guaranteed paychecks.
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smash9 · « **Reply #5 on:** November 05, 2004, 06:07:14 AM »

scott -- thanks for the information---- I had no idea it was that expensive...I suppose the PGA probably has a pricey registration process as well.
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scotts33 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 05, 2004, 06:27:39 AM »

smash9--It gives us a good idea why the little mfg's can't pay the exhorbitant licensing fees. This is the new age PBA though and everything is pretty much all about the $. I'm not arguing about the way they decided to take the tour because something needed to be done.

IMO....the uneducated bowler is swayed by the ball of the month being used on TV. Many a TV match has been lost over the years by a player who chose to go with the big boys hot ball of the month instead of using the ball that he needed to win the match with.

As far as the PGA is concerned, I don't really know the they the PGA charges licensing/registration fees. I am a custom clubmaker and I don't believe I've ever heard that mfg's pay the PGA anything to allow players to use their products on the tour.

In golf, what drives the market is what being used on TV. It's why golf mfg's pay to have a staff. Bowling ball mfg's sure don't seem to be able to have much of a staff other than the Big 3 Brunswick, Storm, & Columbia. Track to a point and the others have a few players.

Scott

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