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Title: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: actsbowler21 on March 30, 2008, 10:34:10 AM
By making the show and bowling well this week, Doug jumps from outside the cut line in points to 20th..pushing the cut line from 38th back down to 39th. Billy Oatman edges out Ronnie Russell and finishes 39th and Kenny Simard does himself a favor by making the cashers round as well and maintains 38th..


wow...Billy better be taking Dougie to dinner tonight
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Title: Re: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: bowlallthetime on March 30, 2008, 06:38:26 PM
If Doug Kent did not make the show and did not make the top 40, then Oatman would have been in 38th place, still making the cut for next year.  Doug moving into the top 40 or staying out of the top 40 would not have changed who made the cut for next year.  

If Kent is in top 40, cut line is 39th...oatman is 39th so he is exempt.  if kent is out of the top 40, the cut line is 38th...oatman would have been 38th, and exempt.
Title: Re: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: bowlallthetime on March 30, 2008, 06:38:54 PM
So I guess Billy doesn't have to take anyone to dinner since he earned his own exemption.
Title: Re: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: Hogsharley on March 30, 2008, 06:39:51 PM
Current Exempt made the last cut. I guess he has a big decision to make now.
To bowl next year or not.
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Title: Re: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: actsbowler21 on March 30, 2008, 06:53:47 PM
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If Doug Kent did not make the show and did not make the top 40, then Oatman would have been in 38th place, still making the cut for next year.  Doug moving into the top 40 or staying out of the top 40 would not have changed who made the cut for next year.  

If Kent is in top 40, cut line is 39th...oatman is 39th so he is exempt.  if kent is out of the top 40, the cut line is 38th...oatman would have been 38th, and exempt.


good point..for some reason i didn't put those numbers together...i was just excited to see Simard maintain his exemption and then noticed billy was in 39th...originally thought he missed out and then saw Dougie moved up to 20th... so I got excited again
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Title: Re: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: vilecanards on March 31, 2008, 02:23:47 AM
so.... HogsHarley is saying "current exempt" is Billy O? Anybody else believe  that the two are the same?  I did read the thread started by "current exempt" several days ago, and wondered who it might actually be....
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Title: Re: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: actsbowler21 on March 31, 2008, 08:17:54 AM
i personally thought it was someone else..who didn't maintain their exemption after all..if you read their statement about making one show and how much he had made on the season at that point.. i had narrowed it down to two people and billy wasn't one of them since he had made 2 shows at that point..

but im not going to investigate anymore... i felt sorta bad for trying to figure out who it was in the first place because at least he was honest in his feelings about being on tour..
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Justin Buford

Title: Re: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: Jeff Carter on March 31, 2008, 11:35:41 AM
Actually Pete and Chris Wood WD'ing saved Billy Oatman. That was 2 spots he moved up, getting him around Ronnie
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Title: Re: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: Monster Pike on March 31, 2008, 11:44:50 AM
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i personally thought it was someone else..who didn't maintain their exemption after all..if you read their statement about making one show and how much he had made on the season at that point.. i had narrowed it down to two people and billy wasn't one of them since he had made 2 shows at that point..

but im not going to investigate anymore... i felt sorta bad for trying to figure out who it was in the first place because at least he was honest in his feelings about being on tour..
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Justin Buford



I am pretty much w/you on that.  I narrowed it down also & I probably did the same thing & drew probably the identical conclusion you came to.  ANd I have the same feelings about it, LOL!  But JC has it right as to why Billy makes the cut.
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Title: Re: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: sdbowler on March 31, 2008, 11:45:17 AM
quote:
so.... HogsHarley is saying "current exempt" is Billy O? Anybody else believe  that the two are the same?  I did read the thread started by "current exempt" several days ago, and wondered who it might actually be....
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I was wondering if it was a staffer from a BIG company.
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Title: Re: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: actsbowler21 on March 31, 2008, 03:10:58 PM
quote:
Actually Pete and Chris Wood WD'ing saved Billy Oatman. That was 2 spots he moved up, getting him around Ronnie
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thanks for the clarification Jeff. I keep forgetting that Chris Wood withdrew because I saw that he was near +240 something at the time he withdrew.

I can hear the boards in the future.. Billy O has another exemption handed to him..which is true with him getting in once because of Ritchie Allen taking an injury deferment and now because two bowlers withdrew from the final event.. I am a fan of Billy so I am not upset..I just know some people will be
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Justin Buford

Title: Re: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: Jeff Carter on March 31, 2008, 03:14:53 PM
Thats actually 3 years in a row that he has backed in. Last year in the last round of the World Championships he basically withdrew in game 3....which would have dropped him lower in points and missing his exemption. Cory asked him 3 times if he was sure he wanted to do that, and he finally decided to finish. If i remember correctly he got the last spot by less than 1000 points last year as well.
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Title: Re: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: livespive on March 31, 2008, 03:23:53 PM
quote:
quote:
Actually Pete and Chris Wood WD'ing saved Billy Oatman. That was 2 spots he moved up, getting him around Ronnie
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thanks for the clarification Jeff. I keep forgetting that Chris Wood withdrew because I saw that he was near +240 something at the time he withdrew.

I can hear the boards in the future.. Billy O has another exemption handed to him..which is true with him getting in once because of Ritchie Allen taking an injury deferment and now because two bowlers withdrew from the final event.. I am a fan of Billy so I am not upset..I just know some people will be
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Justin Buford



Yeah that might be how some look at it, but they have to remember he had to be good enough to be able to be that next person.  he beat out a whole lot of other bowlers.
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Title: Re: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: bhman79 on March 31, 2008, 03:29:19 PM
Looks like this is two years in a row that Ronnie had to depend on someone else to get his exemption and missed out.  Last year Dino and this year is even worse with two people dropping out and costing him. And not to mentioned he could have got his exemption by winning the doubles tournament.  Sounds like some rotten luck to me!
Title: Re: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: bowlallthetime on March 31, 2008, 04:17:27 PM
Jeff Carter, do you have something against Billy Oatman?  You made sure to point out that he "backed in" the past 3 years.  The way I look at it, he did what he had to do to EARN his exemption.
Title: Re: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: Jeff Carter on March 31, 2008, 04:56:01 PM
Yeah....i'm not really a Billy Oatman "fan" for a lot of reasons that i wont go into here. I probably should have chosen my words more carefully
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Title: Re: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: mrbowlingnut on March 31, 2008, 05:30:01 PM
Jeff you are one of kind i have more respect for you being real with all of us, you cannot love everyone all the time. I know off the boards you would probably tell us the deal while drinking a beer, i have a friend that has done dinner with you a few times and he says you are always straight up. In fact he is in one of photos on your website where you and a group of bowlers hit the town.



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Yeah....i'm not really a Billy Oatman "fan" for a lot of reasons that i wont go into here. I probably should have chosen my words more carefully
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Title: Re: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: tonybowls on March 31, 2008, 05:34:44 PM
Jeff,
      I'm sure you have your reasons for feeling the way you do. It was a pleasure to meet and bowl with you at the Pro Am Monday night.
Title: Re: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: Jeff Carter on March 31, 2008, 05:35:50 PM
Billy is a good player....he has to be to be on Tour. I'm not going to sling mud, thats that what you do on a public forum. I try to be honest about how i feel about things and sometimes that steps on some feelings. Billy has a throng of fans and out of respect for them ( they are bowling fans and we need all we can get ) i will respectfully bow out of this thread
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Title: Re: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: bowlallthetime on March 31, 2008, 06:24:35 PM
We don't expect you to say why you don't like him. Everybody has people they don't like for certain reasons.
Title: Re: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: Ahhbach on March 31, 2008, 08:56:44 PM
I can say I crossed next to Billy Oatman in a regional, decent pro, Jack@ss otherwise.  Whined and b@tched about conditions and generally made an arse of himself.  

Ahh
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Title: Re: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: Rev_O on March 31, 2008, 09:05:57 PM
I've been to 2 events the past few years where Oatman was bowling, and quite badly I may say. For a professional to continuously drop F bombs, Flip off the pins on a strike attempt, throw their balls into their bag and almost hit a young child with it, It is 100% unacceptable. I hope that if currentexempt= B Oatman, that he refuse the exemption and let someone that more appreciates Professional bowling be on tour. He's one of the few Black eyes on tour, there are not many, but he IS one of them!
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Title: Re: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: abrown on March 31, 2008, 09:10:04 PM
i bowled a regional this summer had billy O a couple lanes on one side and mccune on the other both struggled it wouldve made a sailor blush. he was nice when i talked with him prior to bowling
Title: Re: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: NappyCuts on March 31, 2008, 09:32:31 PM
Billy has been rammed down our throats every opportunity the PBA gets. He is somehow good enough to hang around on tour but in reality is not really that good. He should be extremely thankful that he thows the ball with his left hand.
Title: Re: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: actsbowler21 on March 31, 2008, 09:49:12 PM
wow are those true stories?? I met the guy in Reno at Team USA trials and he seemed to be having a good time joking with everyone..never saw that side of him when he was bowling.. there has to be a reason some folks have issues with him.. and those seems to be pretty good reasons to have issue..
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Title: Re: Doug Kent saves Oatman
Post by: bowlingmaniac017 on March 31, 2008, 10:06:14 PM
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I have to agree with you. All the times I saw him bowl he looked like he was having fun and joking around.


My guess is hes having to much fun and not taking the PBA as serious and hes just getting by... Thats what Im kind of understanding/thinking.
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Edited on 3/31/2008 10:06 PM