Post by: mainzer on January 17, 2010, 04:49:03 AM
Sean Rash must be getting tips from Chris Barnes out their. But I wish I made as much money in a week as Sean did.
Congats Anthony For StormBowler83's sake I wont type the last name.
But Man I was kinda pulling for Mike Machuga to take it in the finals.
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Post by: J_Mac on January 17, 2010, 01:26:42 PM
The close matches helped keep me interested, as well as seeing what equipment they had decided to use on that challenging Earl Anthony pattern.
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Post by: DON DRAPER on January 17, 2010, 02:57:20 PM
Post by: Fishbowl815 on January 17, 2010, 03:29:13 PM
Post by: J_Mac on January 17, 2010, 03:41:52 PM
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What equipment did they use?
Balls that made the show -
C-System 3.5 - Sean Rash, Machuga
Diamondback - Machuga and Stephanie Nation
Pure Swing - Mike Wolfe and Lynda Barnes
Onyx Vibe - Anthony LaCaze
505A - Anthony LaCaze
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Post by: SleepOnIce on January 17, 2010, 04:17:06 PM
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Post by: Pat Patterson on January 17, 2010, 04:52:23 PM
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What equipment did they use?
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Post by: sevenpin63 on January 17, 2010, 05:07:58 PM
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Post by: Joe Jr on January 17, 2010, 05:12:20 PM
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ARGHHHHHHHHHH the show must have went over its time limit, because my DVR quit recording in the 8th frame, how did Anthony win? What happen?
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Anthony went double 8 in the 10th and Mike needed a double and 9 to win, he got the first one but went ring 10 on the second shot.
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Post by: sevenpin63 on January 17, 2010, 05:14:38 PM
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ARGHHHHHHHHHH the show must have went over its time limit, because my DVR quit recording in the 8th frame, how did Anthony win? What happen?
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Anthony went double 8 in the 10th and Mike needed a double and 9 to win, he got the first one but went ring 10 on the second shot.
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Just another hack with too much equipment.
Thank you so much.
What a way to lose a ringing 10 pin. ouch.
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Post by: mainzer on January 17, 2010, 05:33:39 PM
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Congats Anthony For StormBowler83's sake I wont type the last name.
LOL! Well, for everyone else's sake, could you please edit your title to include the word "spoiler"?
Why did you open it if it was posted right after the show concluded, further more no one forced you to read it.
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Post by: sevenpin63 on January 17, 2010, 05:41:53 PM
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Congats Anthony For StormBowler83's sake I wont type the last name.
LOL! Well, for everyone else's sake, could you please edit your title to include the word "spoiler"?
Why did you open it if it was posted right after the show concluded, further more no one forced you to read it.
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True, when I record a show I dont even come on this site until I watch the show. That way I dont no nothing about it.
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Post by: rvmark on January 17, 2010, 05:49:11 PM
Post by: Motogp69 on January 17, 2010, 06:03:44 PM
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Post by: ralphiejantz on January 17, 2010, 06:07:30 PM
this was a tough pattern to play on
and the scores reflected that
good show though
I really wish they would stop showing womens finals though
they are just so damn boring and awful to watch
Post by: BBU on January 17, 2010, 06:17:32 PM
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Post by: DON DRAPER on January 17, 2010, 07:29:11 PM
Post by: charlest on January 17, 2010, 07:46:06 PM
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good show.......except for the attempts at spare making. inexcusable for players of that caliber.
Walk a mile in their shoes before saying things like that.
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Post by: DON DRAPER on January 17, 2010, 07:51:07 PM
Post by: charlest on January 17, 2010, 07:51:14 PM
Their balls reacted so bizarrely. It was as if the oiled every other board.
Face the facts: those bowlers are the best. They don''''t miss by 1-5% in target, release and ball speed. That''''s why they''''re there.
So what happened to that pattern or did they miss spares all week?
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Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on January 17, 2010, 07:52:17 PM
Post by: DON DRAPER on January 17, 2010, 07:57:32 PM
Post by: srlunatic on January 17, 2010, 08:07:10 PM
Especially with plastic in your hand.
Any one pin miss with plastic is bad on any surface.
As for the scoring pace on the TV show...
They are pro's, they should be able to figure out the shot and execute. That doesn't mean they will score huge but should have a decent enough look.
I like watching the pros struggle and adjust as I learn nothing from strings of strikes. Want to see how the pros adjust on the fly...but that is only me...
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Post by: Rileybowler on January 17, 2010, 08:26:06 PM
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Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on January 17, 2010, 08:35:32 PM
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c-system looked like junk for everyone that threw it today,
this was a tough pattern to play on
and the scores reflected that
good show though
I really wish they would stop showing womens finals though
they are just so damn boring and awful to watch
i was there for qualifying on Thursday and the show today. During qualifying some of the scores were pretty high. I think the tv lights broke the lanes down quicker cause of the heat. Alot of players didn't migrate to where Machuga was until atleast half way through the 7 game block.
I don't remember seeing that many C-systems during qualifying. Rash was using an Avalanche Slide alot and was scoring well with it. Maybe just a sponsor thing...
The tv takes alot out of the matches and the women's match was better live. (I taped it and watched it again at home to see the difference).
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Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on January 17, 2010, 08:43:08 PM
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They''''re bowling on lanes that were never used during the qualifying and the match play. Corrected - I learned they actually bowled on the lanes they used all week.
Their balls reacted so bizarrely. It was as if the oiled every other board.
Face the facts: those bowlers are the best. They don''''t miss by 1-5% in target, release and ball speed. That''''s why they''''re there.
So what happened to that pattern or did they miss spares all week?
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When I was there on Thursday I don't recall seeing many single pin spare misses. There were a couple of 10 pins missed but no 8 and 9 pins. I think Rash was just mental and I don't know why Wolfe wasn't throwing plastic at his. Rash did autograph the Pepsi ball and it was given away to a kid...
Rash is really different off of tv compared to on...
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Post by: Motogp69 on January 17, 2010, 08:59:59 PM
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c-system looked like junk for everyone that threw it today,
this was a tough pattern to play on
and the scores reflected that
good show though
I really wish they would stop showing womens finals though
they are just so damn boring and awful to watch
i was there for qualifying on Thursday and the show today. During qualifying some of the scores were pretty high. I think the tv lights broke the lanes down quicker cause of the heat. Alot of players didn't migrate to where Machuga was until atleast half way through the 7 game block.
I don't remember seeing that many C-systems during qualifying. Rash was using an Avalanche Slide alot and was scoring well with it. Maybe just a sponsor thing...
The tv takes alot out of the matches and the women's match was better live. (I taped it and watched it again at home to see the difference).
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Pretty much what I figured. That has always been my one pet peeve with Brunswick is that they always tend to force the newest ball down the throat of their tour guys when it comes to the telecast more so than the other manufacturers.
As far as lines, I can't believe Wolfe lost because it seemed like he had a pretty good look on both lanes. Oh well, should of used a white dot.
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Post by: blacknois on January 17, 2010, 09:00:22 PM
Post by: Jesse James on January 17, 2010, 10:06:53 PM
As soon as I saw the ladies bowling on the condition they were bowling on, I thought to myself, "I hope someone on this show decides to throw Track, because that may be the only piece, able to provide carry on such a stingy condition".
As it turns out, I was wrong, since Nation changed her release to enable her carry(with Brunswick).......and LaCaze did the same thing, in enabling his Vibe to carry better in the last couple of frames!
Great show though!
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Post by: Motogp69 on January 18, 2010, 09:11:27 AM
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i hardly think brunswick has tried to force staffers or independents to use their "latest and greatest" on tv. do you remember the 1998 abc masters? parker bohn III shot 300 in the semi-finals but lost to mike aulby in the championship match. both players were brunswick staffers at that time. remember what ball aulby used in that match ? the brunswick black blitz( a urethane ball ).
Well, my personal conversations and experiences with Chuck Gardner say otherwise. I'm not saying I think the C-System 3.5 is a bad ball, because it's an excellent piece of equipment, but all to often the Big B forces their bowlers to use the latest and greatest on TV instead of something else that is still in their line that the staff has used all week. Gardner believes firmly that he can make any ball react like whatever they were using during the week.
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Post by: Fishbowl815 on January 18, 2010, 09:52:46 AM
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Post by: LaneHammer20 on January 18, 2010, 11:38:46 AM
He only had 1 bad shot where he almost left that 4-10 split, but ever other was a great shot on a tough line, carry was the only factor. Ringin 10's are a tough cookie, but I feel if he keeps throwing like he has been he will get another soon.
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Post by: J_w73 on January 18, 2010, 12:34:17 PM
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ARGHHHHHHHHHH the show must have went over its time limit, because my DVR quit recording in the 8th frame, how did Anthony win? What happen?
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Anthony went double 8 in the 10th and Mike needed a double and 9 to win, he got the first one but went ring 10 on the second shot.
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Just another hack with too much equipment.
Thank you so much.
What a way to lose a ringing 10 pin. ouch.
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Machuga's first in the tenth tripped the 4 forward. Bill Oneil was watching on the side during the match and helping out La Caze in practice. After the 4 tripped Oneil ran out of the place in disgust.. the stuff you don't see on TV is the best part of the show..
Rash talking to himself all through the first match was great too..
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Post by: J_w73 on January 18, 2010, 12:36:52 PM
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it''s interesting to note that the show lasted over the 1 1/2 time slot yet they bowled thru a commercial in the first match. please bring back the pro bowlers tour on abc-tv !
was that the only commercial during the matches.?? Havent had a chance to watch the tv show yet.. When I was there I heard machuga asing if they were just bowling through.. and I didn''t see any other stoppages during the matches..
so not sure why it still went over.
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Post by: Track_Fanatic on January 18, 2010, 10:30:32 PM
Post by: JessN16 on January 19, 2010, 12:06:24 AM
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good show.......except for the attempts at spare making. inexcusable for players of that caliber.
Walk a mile in their shoes before saying things like that.
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The thing, charlest, is that I would agree with you if we were talking about a bunch of missed 3-6-9-10s, but what we've seen yacked this year has been a bunch of single pins missed while throwing straight plastic. You throw plastic straight at a single pin, lane conditions are completely irrelevant.
Lot of guys look like they're trying to throw TOO hard at those things.
Jess
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Post by: northface28 on January 19, 2010, 02:45:28 PM
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charlest i understand what you are saying. but, consider this if you would: yours truly has bowled pba regional tournaments in the past and completed the entire eight(8) game qualifying round without missing a spare of any type. not splits mind you. but spares. my skill level is not as high as the players on the telecast today. therefore, i expect them to make their spares. the ladies make their spares. the men should have.
Good to see that Greg Hoppe is "Holier than thou", quite possibly the smuggest post ever. So what you did not miss a spare in 8 games. Because 8 games is such a large sample size, seriously, get over yourself.
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Post by: northface28 on January 19, 2010, 02:48:46 PM
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i hardly think brunswick has tried to force staffers or independents to use their "latest and greatest" on tv. do you remember the 1998 abc masters? parker bohn III shot 300 in the semi-finals but lost to mike aulby in the championship match. both players were brunswick staffers at that time. remember what ball aulby used in that match ? the brunswick black blitz( a urethane ball ).
No Greg, no one remembers some show from 1998 that you probably have on VHS tape tucked away safely in your Walter Ray Williams man-crush/shrine/temple. Get out of the time warp and join the rest of us in 2010.
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Post by: DON DRAPER on January 19, 2010, 07:46:38 PM
allow me to respond to your first post. if you read my post carefully you will notice i said "tournaments", plural, meaning more than 8 games. i'm proud that i was able to make all these spares. and believe me there were plenty of shoot at. when you aren't striking( i only averaged appx. 209 )you have to make them or lose even more ground on the leaders. as i crossed with steve jaros at one tournament he was kind enough to answer some of my questions on how to improve. he even complimented me on my spare shooting ! this might not matter to you but it does to me.
as to your second post. walter ray williams, jr., did not make the telecast at the abc masters that year. you must be thinking of the us open, which by the way he won. i'm sure i'm not the only one who remembers the masters from that year. parker bohn III shot 300 on tv and the crowd went wild......i would too if i'd been there. we were lucky enough to have parker speak at our association's hall of fame banquet several years ago. what a classy guy.
in case you're worried my pba library is safely stored. we've had a very harsh winter thus far and i've made sure the tapes and dvd's are in a climate controlled area.
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