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Title: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: JessN16 on April 02, 2007, 11:28:35 AM
All I remember about this guy was that his win occurred sometime in the early/mid-1990s, because I swear I remember him using a pink Hammer to win it.

The telecast was, I believe, on wood lanes. This guy was a very tall, slim guy, and I never saw him before or since. (NOT C.K. Moore, in case someone was thinking that -- Moore was a lefty and this guy was a righty.)

What made this stand out in my head was the guy was literally throwing a straight ball. This was in the late urethane/early resin days and everyone was hooking the hide off the ball. Everyone except this guy, who was throwing it right up the middle, maybe even on the Brooklyn side by design, and he WON.

I've forgotten his name and it's a long shot anyone else will remember it, but I watched him win it on ESPN and couldn't believe my eyes.

Jess
Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: Hogsharley on April 02, 2007, 07:45:23 PM
Maybe your're talking about Ernie Schlegel (Bayer/Brunswick TPC - 11/8/95).
He played straight.

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Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: Mvpbowler on April 02, 2007, 07:47:12 PM
Ernie isn't very tall though, I guess it all depends on your definition of very tall
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Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: Hogsharley on April 02, 2007, 08:12:18 PM
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Warren Nelson


Warren's lone win came in 1980.

Ernie was slender so he looked tall.

Here's a video of him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PM3LoM3w6w&mode=related&search=

And here he is being a 'good sport' after a Perdersen bad break.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ9ChEoG2pU&mode=related&search=
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Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: JessN16 on April 02, 2007, 08:29:24 PM
Wasn't Schlegel. I seem to remember this guy having dark hair and a fairly thick mustache as well. I think he was wearing one of those small, brown leather Master wrist braces. White shirt with stripes, I think.

I seem to remember Mike Durbin being one of the broadcasters, but I can't remember whether he was doing color or the play-by-play.

Jess
Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: gsback on April 03, 2007, 04:28:01 PM
Schlegel is one you'd remember as he had to be the most flamboyant in his attire.  I believe he designed and made his own outfits for the shows back then.
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Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: raiderh20boy on April 03, 2007, 04:41:09 PM
Don't let Catherine hear the Ernie made his clothes!!!
Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: DanH78 on April 03, 2007, 04:43:25 PM
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Schlegel is one you'd remember as he had to be the most flamboyant in his attire.  I believe he designed and made his own outfits for the shows back then.
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I thought Guppy Troupe was the ultra flamboyant guy?  From what I remember of Schlegel from the 90's, he wasn't too out there.
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Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: raiderh20boy on April 03, 2007, 04:50:47 PM
Late 70's early 80's was Ernies time!!!!
Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: brunswickcomplete on April 04, 2007, 10:26:00 AM
Charlie Tapp
Don Genelo
Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: JessN16 on April 04, 2007, 05:05:09 PM
quote:
Are you thinking of Dave Arnold?


Not Dave Arnold; I remember what he looked like, and he was a tour regular for years. This guy, I think, was either a regional or local guy who just rose above himself for a week, won the event and disappeared afterwards.

Jess
Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: Hogsharley on April 04, 2007, 05:28:14 PM
Was it Scott Alexander? That's his only win and it was major.

http://www.pba.com/results/archives_detailed.asp?ID=1036
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Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: alcornel on April 04, 2007, 05:32:26 PM
I looked on the PBA site and looked at their list of single winners. After tossing out a couple of guys I know aren't right (Jeff Lizzi and Brian Davis- I remember his mullet and 299 game with a Rhino Pro aren't what you are looking for), here are the names of single tourney winners from 1991-1994:

Eric Adolphson (Seattle Open - 5/30/92)
Alan Bishop (Quaker State Open - 2/1/92)
Ray Edwards (El Paso Open - 7/6/91)
Steve Fields (Seattle Open - 6/12/93)
Bruce Hamilton (True Value Open - 2/15/92)
Jimmy Johnson (Brunswick Memorial World Open - 4/18/92)
Jimmy Keeth (Tums Classic - 4/18/92)
Andy Neuer (Bud Light Hall of Fame Championship - 2/19/94)
Mike Shady (Earl Anthony PBA Open - 5/23/92)

Any look familiar?
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Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: Hogsharley on April 04, 2007, 05:35:30 PM
quote:
I looked on the PBA site and looked at their list of single winners. After tossing out a couple of guys I know aren't right (Jeff Lizzi and Brian Davis- I remember his mullet and 299 game with a Rhino Pro aren't what you are looking for), here are the names of single tourney winners from 1991-1994:

Eric Adolphson (Seattle Open - 5/30/92)
Alan Bishop (Quaker State Open - 2/1/92)
Ray Edwards (El Paso Open - 7/6/91)
Steve Fields (Seattle Open - 6/12/93)
Bruce Hamilton (True Value Open - 2/15/92)
Jimmy Johnson (Brunswick Memorial World Open - 4/18/92)
Jimmy Keeth (Tums Classic - 4/18/92)
Andy Neuer (Bud Light Hall of Fame Championship - 2/19/94)
Mike Shady (Earl Anthony PBA Open - 5/23/92)

Andy look familiar?
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It's not Ray Edwards. He a local guy who was exempt last year. He not tall and he's been on and off the tour.
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Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: LuckyLefty on April 04, 2007, 05:43:13 PM
Jimmy Johnson was thin...threw it straight and had a ton of 300 games.

Didn't he pass away recently??

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: mrbowlingnut on April 04, 2007, 06:00:42 PM
Bruce Hamilton (True Value Open - 2/15/92)


Was our ballreviews.com owner a tour winner wow that is interesting to me.
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Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: Crankenstein300 on April 04, 2007, 08:36:46 PM
Jim Johnson Jr was the one that passed away. Jimmy is Don Johnson's son.

Alan Bishop and Andrew Neuer I believe are leftys.

Jimmy Keeth is a pretty big cranker.

Mike Shady can be considered a tweener. Definitely not a straighty.

Bruce Hamilton's win I believe was with am X-Calibur
Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: Cobalt Bomb on April 04, 2007, 08:51:37 PM
It was Steve Cook. I believe the only national title with the Pink Hammer.
Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: Ramtart on April 05, 2007, 01:23:15 AM
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Eric Adolphson (Seattle Open - 5/30/92)
Alan Bishop (Quaker State Open - 2/1/92)
Ray Edwards (El Paso Open - 7/6/91)
Steve Fields (Seattle Open - 6/12/93)
Bruce Hamilton (True Value Open - 2/15/92)
Jimmy Johnson (Brunswick Memorial World Open - 4/18/92)
Jimmy Keeth (Tums Classic - 4/18/92)
Andy Neuer (Bud Light Hall of Fame Championship - 2/19/94)
Mike Shady (Earl Anthony PBA Open - 5/23/92)


Wow, great list. I remember watching all these shows. Andy Neuer, the lefty. Mike Shady the stroker. Steve Fields' win was great, because he was from California like me. I think he was throwing a Power Torq. I remember Ray Edwards throwing a polished Black Urethane Rhino Pro back in the day. I wish I still had the tape of Jimmy Keeth ripping a Columbia U Dot (I'm pretty sure that was the ball), he had the whole pocket and some major can openers that scrambled my brains!

Good post guys,
Ram
Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: JessN16 on April 06, 2007, 03:41:32 PM
Thanks for all the help, guys. None of the names just hopped right out at me (I was hoping someone else would remember definitively). It's also possible the ball wasn't a pink Hammer but instead a bright red ball coupled with bad television reception.

Jess
Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: Ragnar on April 06, 2007, 03:50:52 PM
That clip w/ Ernie shows him hooking the ball just about as much as I've ever seen him hook it.  Half the time I've seen him (live and on TV) he's playing a fallback shot.
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Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: Keith Frye on April 06, 2007, 04:05:18 PM
Jess, I'm pretty sure you are thinking of Jim Johnson Jr. (who has passed away).  He was using a 3D Offset Hammer (violet or purple in color).  He threw straight off the right corner.
Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: Dynoboy on April 07, 2007, 10:58:49 PM
PHIL WARE
Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: JessN16 on April 08, 2007, 02:32:23 AM
quote:
Jess, I'm pretty sure you are thinking of Jim Johnson Jr. (who has passed away).  He was using a 3D Offset Hammer (violet or purple in color).  He threw straight off the right corner.


After watching the linked video clip, I don't think it was him. The guy I'm thinking about was thinner than Johnson.

Jess
Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: Rev_O on April 08, 2007, 03:03:02 AM
is this the guy?

2 links!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abobPZ7PI44

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm7PmFO1Zjs
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Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: bigz on April 08, 2007, 10:44:30 PM
was it chris warren?
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Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: DP3 on April 08, 2007, 11:05:21 PM
Chris Warren...throwing it straight?  HA!
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Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: LuckyLefty on April 09, 2007, 02:50:22 PM
Imagine me showing up for practice one day and saying heh...who's that guy thowing it so good...and they say...."That's Dave Davis PBA hall of famer and best style ever".

Then several months later I show up and they go..."Hey...here is your new teammate...Jimmy Keeth(PBA winner)....as I watched him AMP it up in to the stratasphere.  All this in my first year back bowling after about a 20 year break!  They call me lucky for a reason(sometimes).

Keeth used to say..."comeon fluffer!".  (I'm not a fluffer but to him.....).

In his eyes if you couldn't amp it up...you couldn't bowl!  

Several months I got to meet him on rival teams and had one of my best days.
I won't forget it!  R.I.P. AMPMASTER!

REgards,

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Title: Re: Help remembering the name of a tour winner...
Post by: Ragnar on April 09, 2007, 03:02:46 PM
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Chris Warren...throwing it straight?  HA!
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I've seen him to it.  I almost had  a heart attack.
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