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charlest

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I think the PBA does Jason a disservice by posting the headline ...
« on: March 30, 2009, 10:44:18 AM »
"First two handed player to win a PBA title".

Although I am not a fan of the style and will probably never be, I think Jason deserves THE credit, not his style. When Roth won his first, they didn't say, "First Cranker to win a PBA title".

Jason stuck it out and persevered, the hard way. It wasn't his style that won that tournament. It was Jason who won it. They didn't say, "The first Australian to win a US PBA tournament", although I know someone, somewhere will say that. The person deserves the credit.

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Re: I think the PBA does Jason a disservice by posting the headline ...
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2009, 06:54:38 PM »
Anyone who won as many games as Jason did to get to the finals deserves all the credit that anyone else would get.  So many bowlers have different bowling styles that its just great that they won without any restrictions.  I say "congratulations Jason, we'll see a lot more of you in the future".




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charlest

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Re: I think the PBA does Jason a disservice by posting the headline ...
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2009, 06:58:36 PM »
Nicanor,

I know. It almost becomes something like: if he didn't use this style, he wouldn't have won.
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Re: I think the PBA does Jason a disservice by posting the headline ...
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2009, 07:18:37 PM »
Wow. I didn't know that a one handed player had EVER won a title!
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Re: I think the PBA does Jason a disservice by posting the headline ...
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2009, 07:23:31 PM »
While I agree with your point, journalists and PR folks never think about any angle but the publicity angle.  What's going to make the most noise?  Easily it'll be someone who won a title doing something that no other two-handed bowler has done.
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Re: I think the PBA does Jason a disservice by posting the headline ...
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2009, 08:31:24 PM »
your right it's the bowler who won
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Re: I think the PBA does Jason a disservice by posting the headline ...
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2009, 09:14:36 PM »
i seem to remember the pba pointing out years ago that mike miller was the first player to win a pba national title using the thumbless style.........
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Re: I think the PBA does Jason a disservice by posting the headline ...
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2009, 06:56:14 AM »
charlest, while I see your point, ...I think it must be looked at in a different way.

His style, as you're well aware, is the exeption, NOT the rule!  Thus, ..the headline distinguishing that it was different because of the rarity of his style.

And...NO!!! I'm NOT a 'media' person, ...just looking at it as a headline pointing out something different...
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charlest

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Re: I think the PBA does Jason a disservice by posting the headline ...
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2009, 07:14:30 AM »
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i seem to remember the pba pointing out years ago that mike miller was the first player to win a pba national title using the thumbless style.........



Greg, I understand, "pointing it out", but to make it THE headline or lead into the tournament summary makes it, in my eyes anyway, sort of a "left handed" compliment. It's, like I said above, as if he only won it because he uses 2 hands.

Maybe I'm being too fussy, but words are powerful tools. We use them to manipulate people every day. If they mentioned his style later in the article, I see no harm, no foul.
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Re: I think the PBA does Jason a disservice by posting the headline ...
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2009, 07:15:30 AM »
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charlest, while I see your point, ...I think it must be looked at in a different way.

His style, as you're well aware, is the exeption, NOT the rule!  Thus, ..the headline distinguishing that it was different because of the rarity of his style.

And...NO!!! I'm NOT a 'media' person, ...just looking at it as a headline pointing out something different...
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Jeff,

I understand it's the exception, but read my reply to Greg just above.
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Re: I think the PBA does Jason a disservice by posting the headline ...
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2009, 09:15:10 AM »
The title of the article is not implying that a two-handed style was the defining factor in the victory. It's expressing historical reference to the feat.
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Re: I think the PBA does Jason a disservice by posting the headline ...
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2009, 10:07:07 AM »
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The title of the article is not implying that a two-handed style was the defining factor in the victory. It's expressing historical reference to the feat.
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but it can easily be interpreted to be that way.
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Re: I think the PBA does Jason a disservice by posting the headline ...
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2009, 10:16:37 AM »
The person deserves the credit.  The story, however, deserves the headline to get people to read about it.  That's just how media works.  If you were just a casual bowling fan and saw a headline on a website "Belmonte wins first PBA title," you would probably be less inclined to click on it and read more than if it said "First two handed player to win a PBA title."  That's all that's going on here, nothing more.  Just basic marketing.
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Re: I think the PBA does Jason a disservice by posting the headline ...
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2009, 10:29:40 AM »
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Nicanor,

I know. It almost becomes something like: if he didn't use this style, he wouldn't have won.
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I am guessing he probably wouldn't have.  If he wasn't a 2 hander he wouldn't have gotten nearly the publicity he did, wouldn't have gotten the exemptions he got when he first got here. And who knows, he might not have been nearly as good and might not have been here at all.

You all are reading too much into the headlines.  Same as when the Colts won the Superbowl. Tony Dungee was the first African American coach to win a SB.  Did winning have anything to do with him being black? No, he is a hell of a coach and a great person.  Headlines are what sells.  Sensationalism is what grabs attention.

Is the headline not true?  He is the first 2 hander to win a PBA title, and I don't think it takes away from him. It is a unique style.


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Re: I think the PBA does Jason a disservice by posting the headline ...
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2009, 12:44:08 PM »
probably the editor needs to be taught on the basics of the game and also on his english?

i mean everybody well almost everybody(apologies to the under priviledged,not meant to hurt anybody in any case) uses 2 hands to bowl...
the bowling arm and non bowling arm...

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