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tdub36tjt

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In the bag
« on: September 07, 2007, 04:06:04 AM »
I notice that when watching the PBA on ESPN they never mention what balls the bowlers are throwing. They will only mention what kind of reaction they are looking for. I don't get why they wouldn't allow the ball companies to show the ball they are throwing to possibly get some revenue from the ball companies. I think it would be beneficial to bowling knowledge as well for them to show the kind of ball and the drilling layout that each bowler is throwing to teach bowlers what kind of reaction to expect from different balls/drillings. I would have to think the ball companies would be willing to pay some sort of fees to show this in order to get more advertising in of new equipment etc as well.
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shelley

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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2007, 12:11:48 PM »
It's too much like "free advertising", in spite of the fact that the bowlers wear patches on their shirt advertising their ball companies, most have a ball logo on the breast pocket, and the ball companies already pay a buttload of money just so the PBA will allow them to use their equipment at all.

You can always go to the website the next day and click on the In The Bag link (under the Bowlers drop-down).  That works for recent shows, from the last two years.  Older shows you're out of luck.

There's lots of grumbling about the PBA registration fees, the lack of advertising on the show, and what exactly you get for your money when you register.

If you're really interested in what they're using, there's a thread just about every week during the season where we talk about the show, usually close to real-time.  All of the balls used are identified.

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tdub36tjt

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Re: In the bag
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2007, 12:15:36 PM »
I can usually tell what ball they are throwing, but I would be more interested in knowing what drillings they have. I think that would be better knowledge knowing what they are looking for in reaction on different patterns, etc.
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shelley

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Re: In the bag
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2007, 12:28:46 PM »
Until this year, Ric Hamlin (BrunsRICO?) was doing a weekly website that talked about the Brunswick staffers, how they approached the pattern, and he had some excellent commentary on the match play portions, you could click on a match and get a few paragraphs on who he thought would win, why, how long the match would go,... .  His laptop filled up, I guess, because he stopped halfway through the season.  If there were Brunswick staffers or users on the show, he'd take pictures at the telecast and you could see the balls and layouts that everyone was using.

I'd buy him an external HD if it would help.

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Re: In the bag
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2007, 01:10:02 PM »
Let's also keep in mind that the average bowler could care less what ball they are throwing.

Look at golf...

Do they go on and on about what kind of ball Tiger is playing?

What about what kind of glove A-Rod is using?

How about what kind of Shoulder pads Peyton Manning has on?

If bowling tries to direct their product at hardcore bowlers that care....they will have a very limited audience.  They need to sell the bowling....not the equipment.
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shelley

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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2007, 01:16:04 PM »
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Do they go on and on about what kind of ball Tiger is playing?


Perhaps not, but the correct golf analogy would be what kind of club he's using and yes, if my experience with JLS is correct, quite a lot of people care what new-fangled driver he's hitting this week.

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Jeff Carter

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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2007, 02:14:17 PM »
It was Rick Benoit...not Rick Hamelin

It is 100 % about money. The product registration fees only cover the use of products on the tours, not promotion. They've even advised us not to promote the manufacturers on the show ( ala giving balls away, making the show a televised "trade show" ). Im totally in disagreement on this because we need all of the sponsor endorsement we can get.

Right after Dale Jr gets out of the car, he thanks : Budweiser, Wrangler, Chevrolet, etc....hell we dont even get time for interviews anymore.

It would be nice to at least get some "pub" for the manufacturers, but on the other hand Russell is correct....the majority of the viewing audience either doesnt care or doesnt understand. The scratch or knowledgable bowler only makes up a small portion on our viewing audience
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Re: In the bag
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2007, 07:44:40 PM »
Me and another guy on the PBA.com message board will usually try and ID the balls on TV as well. Gives the PBA web people something to check their In The Bag against
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tdub36tjt

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Re: In the bag
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2007, 08:57:58 PM »
I agree with you Jeff, I think if the ball companies are putting a lot of money into the PBA there is no reason they shouldn't be able to get some "pub" out of the situation even if they were to just interview the bowler after the matches and put the interview on the website. It gives fans that are interested in what the players are throwing and what kind of drillings they used and how they attacked the lanes. It would help to increase knowledge in the game for people interested in learning more. I know I have only been bowling for 2 years and know I have so much more to learn and everyday I am trying to learn something new thata will help my game. You would think the PBA would want to promote knowledge to fans as much as they want to just promote the game in itself. Just my opinion. Even if they don't make as much as they think they should make from the ball companies as they think they should to help give hem some added "pub".
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