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General Category => PBA => Topic started by: charlest on January 20, 2013, 09:05:12 PM
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What ball was Mika using?
I saw it was red and blue but don't see any ball like that under Columbia, Track or Ebonite. Internet pictures rarely give the true sense of the appearance of a ball.
The Oath is Blue, Purple and Red. This one looked strictly royal blue and bright dark red.
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Arson Low flare?
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Jeff, Looked like the Oath to me. Mine had very little purple in it.
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Even after looking at the overseas Columbia selections, I still say off colored Oath...
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A Track 503T is a possibilty but I'd say it looked more like an Oath that had a more reddish color scheme.
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Could have been an Exceed
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=458556787539990&set=pb.174724479256557.-2207520000.1358738758&type=3&src=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ak-ash4%2F738252_458556787539990_2043592509_o.jpg&smallsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ash4%2F417990_458556787539990_2043592509_n.jpg&size=1529%2C2048
EDIT. Here is the oath he has in his bag. Which is very red and blue. So this is my new guess.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=461521447243524&set=pb.174724479256557.-2207520000.1358738758&type=3&src=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ak-ash4%2F740502_461521447243524_2130213548_o.jpg&smallsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ash4%2F307669_461521447243524_2130213548_n.jpg&size=1529%2C2048
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What ball was Mika using?
I saw it was red and blue but don't see any ball like that under Columbia, Track or Ebonite. Internet pictures rarely give the true sense of the appearance of a ball.
The Oath is Blue, Purple and Red. This one looked strictly royal blue and bright dark red.
I was thinking of asking something a bit more generic, but you actually bring up the question I have, and I'm hoping that some of the ball reps or staffers here may have an answer.
The first thing (and I've noticed this when I've bowled overseas) is how subdued the crowd is. It's reminiscent of how the PBA tour used to be before they introduced stadium bowling. You hear absolutely nothing from the crowd until after the ball hits the pins. Rather... classy compared to the rowdiness of the US crowd.
However, as a bowler, the major thing I've noticed is that during the WSOB and other tournaments in the US, the commentators calling the tournament have been nice enough to list the arsenal of the bowlers. They have not done this in the Japan World Cup.
Any reason why? Is it because the bowlers could be using overseas releases? I'm wondering because of some of the balls the Japanese bowlers were using.
As far as Mika's ball goes, in the beginning, it looked almost like a Pursuit, but there's too much red in the ball for that.
EDIT: lsf_21 called it. Overseas Oath.
BL.
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Before reading this post, i knew he was using an oath...it just looks like the pic they use for marketing purposes...cuz u know, the companies advertise the ball looks like "this" but in all reality it looks like "that".
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Brad... there isn't a separate, "overseas" Oath...
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First match he used an 811 C/T, then switched to an Oath.
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A Track 503T is a possibilty but I'd say it looked more like an Oath that had a more reddish color scheme.
I was looking at other Ebo Int'l companies to see if any of their balls were that red/blue combo. I doubt the 503T was strong enough to hook that much in that much oil with Mika's ball speed. I think he needed a ball of the strength of the Oath.
On a side note, even though the oil amount was on the heavier side, I think it was designed to give the stroker-type of delivery (a high percentage of Asian bowlers) an advantage. During the show I was thinking that this heavy oil pattern would have been more of a challenge if they made boards 1 - 10 an out of bounds, like the Shark pattern, with a strong dose of oil. But then that would give the PBA bowlers an even bigger advantage.
2nd side note: small wonder PBA bowlers love this tournament. Did you see that the winner gets an almost rationally large 1st prize of over $70K!!!
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Could it be the new Hammer First Blood. The colors look very similar.
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Could it be the new Hammer First Blood. The colors look very similar.
No... and no they don't...
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It was a pin down Columbia Oath!! They had pictures of it posted on facebook several weeks ago!! The photo is posted on Columbia 300 facebook page from Dec. 6, 2012
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It was a pin down Columbia Oath!! They had pictures of it posted on facebook several weeks ago!! The photo is posted on Columbia 300 facebook page from Dec. 6, 2012
Thank you, Bruce!
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This is a great thread for seeing who is in need of a new Hi-Def television.
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This is a great thread for seeing who is in need of a new Hi-Def television.
or corrective lenses...
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You should come watch ESPN non HD on my tv. It is like the 80s.
I dont understand how the quality even in standard def can be so crappy at times.
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You didn't need high quality HD to see the gulf in talent between the Japanese and PBA bowlers. It bordered on shocking.
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You didn't need high quality HD to see the gulf in talent between the Japanese and PBA bowlers. It bordered on shocking.
I don't know about that, necessarily. Osku got outbowled...twice. His shots weren't nearly the quality of his opponents, but because of his power he was somehow able to carry.
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It looked like the japanese bowler's ball was drilled conventional grip!
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Bat - His fingers were wrapped with black tape, which made it look like a conventional grip. That was my first thought on his first shot.
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This is a great thread for seeing who is in need of a new Hi-Def television.
Re-quoted for accuracy. :D
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This is a great thread for seeing who is in need of a new Hi-Def television.
Re-quoted for accuracy. :D
Lol! Too funny, it was an Columbia 300 Oath, all it ever could be. He threw an Track 811 C/T then a Columbia 300 Oath. How could anyone think anything else with him WEARING A COLUMBIA 300 JERSEY!!!! REALLY! Really! Really? Apparently, over $1000 doesnt buy you as much high def as it used to.
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If you look how much of the black tape disappeared when he put his hand in the ball made it look like a conventional grip! It looked like he had more than the tip in the holes! Just my observation!! Thanks
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Bruce,
You got it right on the conventional grip. My wife called me to watch. We backed it up about 3-4 times to verify.
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Bruce,
You got it right on the conventional grip. My wife called me to watch. We backed it up about 3-4 times to verify.
Nothing wrong with conventional grip. Glen Allison, the original Mr. 900, has always used it, and I believe Dave Davis did as well.
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or seeing who needs to get a life. Why does it matter so much what ball Mika was throwing? You gonna throw it the same way as Mika next time you're on the pattern he was bowling on? Doubtful.
This is a great thread for seeing who is in need of a new Hi-Def television.
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You didn't need high quality HD to see the gulf in talent between the Japanese and PBA bowlers. It bordered on shocking.
Having been to Japan and competed against their National Team and several of their city all-star teams I can tell you they are extremely good and dedicated. More traditional in their style but they can bowl. AND THEY DO NOT MISS SPARES. Unlike the ridiculous amount the PBA does.
Anthony