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APheLion

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last sunday... was that real shark?
« on: December 15, 2008, 06:28:36 AM »
i dont really get it, i thought on the shark, breaking outside 3 pin is proly washout, however, they all did break outside than normal

did they change the pattern itself or just it can happen?
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Re: last sunday... was that real shark?
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2008, 02:29:56 PM »
I thought it looked a bit drier for a true Shark pattern. I know when Im on the Shark I cant cover 20 boards at 18 MPH.

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Re: last sunday... was that real shark?
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2008, 02:32:26 PM »
That house makes everything hook.  Topography and center characteristics overpower any oil pattern you can put down.  That's a fact........and on come the nay-sayers!!

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Re: last sunday... was that real shark?
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2008, 02:35:57 PM »
As we saw a few times, if they sent it out too far, it never recovered.  However, remember that the Shark is a long pattern, but not necessarily a flood!  The heads and midlane tend to get kind of dry on the Shark, especially if they decide to use a lower volume of oil that day or that tournament.  Throw in high friction HPL synthetics and the TV lights to make the oil go away even quicker and things get toasty.

The line the ladies were able to play is very similar to how the Shark played for me in a PBA Experience league this summer.  (Since my rev rate is pretty darn low, the ladies are actually much more representative of how I bowl. )

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Re: last sunday... was that real shark?
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2008, 02:36:18 PM »
DP3 is correct. Bowled a regional there a couple of years ago on the shark pattern. I played exactly where Wes did.
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Re: last sunday... was that real shark?
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2008, 02:36:31 PM »
I will have to 3rd DP's analysis of Shark, having experienced both "types" of Shark.  Lane surface ultimately makes the pattern play the way it plays.  Try Viper or Cheetah on wood, then try it on pro anvil.....

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Re: last sunday... was that real shark?
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2008, 02:40:53 PM »
i was never good in topography in school...now muffology i was good at..i liked playing the deep inside line and could get it to recover from anywhere..
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Re: last sunday... was that real shark?
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2008, 02:45:50 PM »
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i was never good in topography in school...now muffology i was good at..i liked playing the deep inside line and could get it to recover from anywhere..
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Re: last sunday... was that real shark?
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2008, 02:46:52 PM »
That gets my vote for Post of the Day.

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Re: last sunday... was that real shark?
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2008, 02:49:48 PM »
It would be a no-brainer post of the day if strikealot was female.
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Re: last sunday... was that real shark?
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2008, 11:23:05 PM »
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i was never good in topography in school...now muffology i was good at..i liked playing the deep inside line and could get it to recover from anywhere..
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Re: last sunday... was that real shark?
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2008, 09:30:46 AM »
the lanes themselves, the type of lane, and the amount of wear and tear on those lanes makes all the difference in the world......regardless of the oil pattern.

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Re: last sunday... was that real shark?
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2008, 10:58:24 AM »
I agree with DP3 and Greg.

My home house's league pattern plays like a 50ft pattern even though it's not!

You get about 3 boards of movement outside 8. Inside 8, you get about 3 boards or less on fresh and a bit more (or less depends on carrydown) after 2 games (2-person league). It's hopeless. (I'm hopeless!)

Would love to see some 500rpm players to try breaking down our pattern but unfortunately the standard in our house is very low.
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Re: last sunday... was that real shark?
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2008, 11:07:13 AM »
The volume of oil could have been different from what you've seen before, too.  PBA patters have 3 varieties - A, B, and C.  Shark A has less volume than Shark B, and both have less oil than Shark C.

That's the way it was on the Regional tour.  The National tour might have something a little different.
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Re: last sunday... was that real shark?
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2008, 05:31:54 PM »
Two reasons. The first is they double strip which will create more backend. Second that lane surface has higher friction.