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bowlingmytmouse

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Legality of Distribution
« on: October 22, 2006, 12:11:48 PM »
Hi all,
  I was tinkering with the idea of making DVD copies of all the PBA telecasts since I have a DVD burner hooked up to my TV. I would only charge like 5 or 6 bucks a week shipped. But my question is....if that 5 or 6 bucks goes towards my supplies and shipping, is that considered illegal?? I mean if I had a buddy down the street that wanted one and I gave him a copy it wouldn't be illegal right? Also, would anyone be interested in something like this? I mean it still has commercials but its on a DVD and you can skip those real quick.

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Re: Legality of Distribution
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2006, 08:14:39 PM »
I'm pretty sure everything you mentioned is a no-no, even making a copy and giving to your buddy.
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Re: Legality of Distribution
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2006, 08:22:12 PM »
Making copies and GIVING them away is safe .. once you charge (even for supplies) you run into COPY WRITE laws where everyone wants a piece of the action! Sell 5 copies .. don't expect to hear from anyone .. it's when you start making money from your work that you will be PROSECUTED!
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Re: Legality of Distribution
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2006, 08:23:23 PM »
Cut him some slack Nick....I forgot to tape the Japan Cup today.  I'll see you tomorrow to pick up the DVD BMM.  LOL.
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Re: Legality of Distribution
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2006, 08:38:21 PM »
Under even the most recent definition of fair use, it would be illegal to "share" a copy with a friend since it is not yours to "give."

I am not an attorney but I wouldn't take legal advice from anyone who has difficulty spelling "copyright."  If you have doubts, why not ask the PBA's legal department?  I'm sure they could clear up this issue in no time at all.


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Re: Legality of Distribution
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2006, 08:55:34 PM »
Here is one case of sharing "free copies."  http://www.riaa.com/News/newsletter/012104.asp


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Re: Legality of Distribution
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2006, 09:00:05 PM »
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Here is one case of sharing "free copies."  http://www.riaa.com/News/newsletter/012104.asp


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Re: Legality of Distribution
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2006, 09:43:09 PM »
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Making copies and GIVING them away is safe .. once you charge (even for supplies) you run into COPY WRITE laws where everyone wants a piece of the action! Sell 5 copies .. don't expect to hear from anyone .. it's when you start making money from your work that you will be


The reason they don't really do much about copies given away is that there's a sort of ceiling involved in how many copies you can afford and have time to make.  You're talking about out-of-pocket expenses, plus your time and effort to do the copying.  Factor in shipping and you're looking at at least $3-4 per copy out of your own money.  You'll limit yourself, if only to keep from going broke.

Making a copy for your buddy down the street will never get you in trouble, even if it is technically illegal.  If nothing else, because no one but the two of you know about it.  People have been trading and giving away tapes of sporting events for as long as tapes have been around.

Now post it on the internet and you could easily get into trouble.  The means for copying and distributing are essentially free and unlimited and instantaneous.  A far cry from costing you time and money.

I wouldn't do what you're suggesting, systematically making copies and selling them, profit or not, at any price.  If someone said "Hey, BMM, I missed the Japan Cup today; can you burn me a copy?", go ahead.

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Re: Legality of Distribution
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2006, 06:43:37 AM »
Fair enough, I just wanted everyone's take on it. So if RIAA has a NARC on the board BMM is not disrtibuting any DVD's on the internet, just keeping them for my own safe keeping and whenever DP3 misses a show  

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Re: Legality of Distribution
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2006, 06:44:36 AM »
Fair enough, I just wanted everyone's take on it. So if RIAA has a NARC on the board BMM is not disrtibuting any DVD's on the internet, just keeping them for my own safe keeping and whenever DP3 misses a show  

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Re: Legality of Distribution
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2006, 06:45:51 AM »
Fair enough, I just wanted everyone's take on it. So if RIAA has a NARC on the board BMM is not disrtibuting any DVD's on the internet, just keeping them for my own safe keeping and whenever DP3 misses a show  

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Re: Legality of Distribution
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2006, 06:52:11 AM »
Do you see the white van with the barred windows outside your house, parking there day and night? It is THEM, watching you, filing, taping, everything...
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Re: Legality of Distribution
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2006, 02:36:20 PM »
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Illegal for any sort of distribution.  


That's what a copyright is. It's NOT a "distribution for dollars"-right - it's a COPY right. A copy of anything copyrighted is illegal. Period. And may be prosecuted. It's up to the copyright owner whether they prosecute or not.

And I can assure you that even if people sent you blank DVDs for you to copy the content to, it would be a violation of copyright.
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Re: Legality of Distribution
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2006, 06:37:56 PM »
I'm not a NARC but I am troubled about how little people of a certain age show respect and understanding of the law.  

I made this point in an earlier post.  If I saw your bowling equipment, unattended, on a ball return and had no risk or being caught, I would still not steal your stuff.  What many people young and old alike don't understand is that file sharing and selling other people's copyrighted material is stealing.  

Now I don't believe a person should be sued or prosecuted for sharing a copy of a pba telecast but that is the law and I apologize for offending anyone if I made my point a bit too strongly.

Even the Boy Scouts feel that this is an ethical issue that should be taught.  http://www.informationweek.com/internet/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=193401501


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Re: Legality of Distribution
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2006, 07:13:48 PM »
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Do you see the white van with the barred windows outside your house, parking there day and night? It is THEM, watching you, filing, taping, everything...
 

 That's exactly what I've been telling everyone for years. At first they just laughed, now no one wants to talk to me. LOL
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