Post by: charlest on April 02, 2010, 05:15:50 AM
Tommy Jones is also on a roll, shooting 1698 for the 7 games, avg: 242 for the 7.
Good ole Scroggy also shot 1700 for the 7 on Scorpion putting him in 6th, just ahead of WRW.
Malott's still in 1st and Barnes in 3rd.
This is some serious good bowling !!
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Post by: ralphiejantz on April 02, 2010, 01:57:32 PM
I cant stand to even look at PDW anymore he's so annoying with his fake attitude
hope he tanks it from here on in
Post by: ozsweet on April 02, 2010, 08:02:44 PM
as with most "marathon" formats. PDW stays close to the top.
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Post by: J_Mac on April 03, 2010, 12:45:41 AM
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ralphie - help with the "fake attitude" - not sure what you mean.
as with most "marathon" formats. PDW stays close to the top.
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By "fake attitude" I believe most would infer that ralpie was referring to the mellowing out that PDW has gone through since his father passed away.
His "in your face" attitude doesn't quite seem as sincere.
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Post by: Kinalyx on April 03, 2010, 12:56:05 AM
Sorry, but no amount of talent makes up for his pure lameness.
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Post by: ralphiejantz on April 03, 2010, 10:06:35 AM
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ralphie - help with the "fake attitude" - not sure what you mean.
as with most "marathon" formats. PDW stays close to the top.
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his crotch chops and wearing sun glasses on TV shows, the guy is lame weighs about a 150 lbs soaking wet and is just a joke to look at
I dont understand why he just cant go out and bowl,
he has to show off with all the antics etc.
when I was younger I used to love to watch him make the TV shows when he just went out and bowled and bowled good
now to watch him jump around wear sunglasses during bowling and carry on Im just not into it
I understand guys get fired up during TV telecasts but he's a little over to the top with it
and he's pretty dam arrogant about himself also
Post by: charlest on April 03, 2010, 10:30:50 AM
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I dont understand why he just cant go out and bowl,
he has to show off with all the antics etc.
when I was younger I used to love to watch him make the TV shows when he just went out and bowled and bowled good.
now to watch him jump around wear sunglasses during bowling and carry on Im just not into it .
I understand guys get fired up during TV telecasts but he's a little over to the top with it
and he's pretty dam arrogant about himself also
Ralphie,
You have to admit that memory does some strange things as we get older.
I am the last person on earth to be considered one of PDW's fans, but he never "just went out and bowled". He always tried to get into the mind and the "face" of EVERYONE he bowled against. He tried to be as aggressive as possible with all kinds of antics, just short of physical contact. That is one of the things that made me not like him at all personally, to be be understated about it.
However, one thing you can't take away form him: he is and will be possibly one of the 5 most talented bowlers ever bowl in the PBA. He still is. This week's performance just accentuates that fact. Where his head has been on,when he's bene on TV the past 4 or 5 years, I don't know. He should have won several of those tournaments, but he seems to have just laid down and died on TV. That's not the old PDW who thrived on crowd exposure.
The crotch chops are long gone, as near as I can tell. Any done now are made in some sort of good humor that he seems to have developed since his father died. Almost making fun of what has to be considered his former self.
I think the glasses are not just for show, not an affectation. TV lights are pretty fierce. Maybe it's to hide his eyes. Can't say for sure.
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Post by: Juggernaut on April 03, 2010, 11:10:48 AM
He had talent, a talent I couldn''t figure out why it was wasted on him.
Now though, and I''m not sure how or when it happened, I find mysel rooting for him. Somehow, in my eyes, he''s gone from the brash, arrogant PDW to the old guy just trying to hang on long enough to win again. This I can understand.
I always thought his antics were childish, and would''ve only enticed me to beat him as badly as I could (if I could''ve), but I have to agree that much of that has changed with time. He no longer seems so brash and arrogant, rather he seems nervous and almost intimidated at times.
No longer does he curse at, and flip the bird to, pins left standing, He just shrugs and seems to resign himself to a "who didn''t know that" type of position, a position that assumes loss and anticipates failure yet once again.
I didn''t like the young, brash PDW. I do, however, seem to like the older, nervous, very human, son of Dick Weber who is trying to hold onto something he loves as long as he possibly can.
Incidentally, I do remember an interview where he stated that he used the glasses once as sort of a gimmicky thing, maybe even at one of those outdoor events a few years back, but really liked the way they reduced the glare on the lanes, so continued to wear them.
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Post by: ralphiejantz on April 03, 2010, 12:39:24 PM
didnt he yell at one of the camera guys his last outing on TV ? like he was gonna go over and punch the guy or something to that affect ?
I will never question his talent that he has
he is definitely in the top 5 of greatest bowlers of all time
the sunglasses are just 1 of those things that I think is ridiculous
I understand the lights give off a glare on the lanes
but really how many other guy on tour wear them indoors on TV ?
so I cant see it being a necessity
I just feel like Pete tries to play out this bad boy image and really its a joke
I mean its bowling first of all not an outlaw biker gang, and the guy is as skinny as a twig and getting old
I would love to just see him go out there and make some good shots and be quite and content about it
Post by: charlest on April 03, 2010, 01:12:34 PM
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I would love to just see him go out there and make some good shots and be quite and content about it
Maybe that's part of our problem: our perception of him, now vs the old days.
Maybe he is just doing his best and accepting it, when the pins don't fall his way. Maybe in the old days, he blamed everyone and everything but himself. I don't know. just maybe.
He's in 2nd place for the TV show and no matter what else happens, no one in his right mind can say PDW did not bowl absolutely great this week. 7 oil patterns, any one of which would have had your average 220 - 230 league bowler tearing his hair out, literally.
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Post by: TDC57 on April 03, 2010, 01:40:56 PM
Post by: JustRico on April 03, 2010, 01:51:38 PM
Hides his coke habit...isn't the internet a great place to hide and say whatever you like and NEVER have to back up....he still drinks but for the rest of his past, he has left that behind.
Has anyone of you EVER put yourself in his place? Trying to pursuing a career in a field that your father is considered to be one of the greatest EVER.
Pete is one of the greatest to EVER throw a bowling ball...he has has a GREAT career. I would REALLY like to know how many of you, posting negatively towards Pete, can even come close in their careers in comparison. I am glad to know Pete on a personal level. When I was still competing he was always coordial to me as well as helpful.
Get a life and quit spending ALL your time taking shots at anyone and everyone you feel compelled to. Those throwing stones....
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Post by: RandyO on April 03, 2010, 02:05:12 PM
Crap like this is why I stop viewing forums for months at a time and don't seem to miss them. I think they develop into a place for clueless people with no life to feel important as they sling sh*t in the relative safety of their anonymity. Not everyone mind you, but enough to drive me away. It's my opinion (FWIW) that when unsubstantiated doo-doo like this happens the moderators should immediately demand proof of the charges and when none is provided the poster should immediately be banned.
Rico - you should get some kind of award for putting up with this place for so long and still maintaining a portion of your sanity (a portion is as high as I will rate you though).
Post by: BrunsMike on April 03, 2010, 02:45:53 PM
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Post by: raiderh20boy on April 03, 2010, 02:46:20 PM
As someone who knows Pete and the pleasure of both knowing and bowling with his father as well as with Pete, I have been sitting here thinking just how to respond to some of this s**t. WELL SAID RIC!!
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Post by: GrinderMan on April 03, 2010, 02:48:33 PM
I'd rather watch a dislikable character like PDW, than some of these impossibly fat guys that make bowling a laughable sport in the eyes of the general public, except Scroggy, he's allright.
Post by: ccrider on April 03, 2010, 06:48:46 PM
Because we can not prove that he has quit, that means that he has not quit? Guilty to proven innocent, right? Give it a break. Some people do change and from those on hear that know PDW, he has changed. If he has not, we have know way of knowing, so why take pot shots at him???
Once a hater, always a hater.
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Post by: Crankenstein300 on April 03, 2010, 07:16:25 PM
Sorry, I know he has had issues with drugs and alcohol, but I trust Ric's assessment of where he is today.
Post by: JustRico on April 03, 2010, 07:24:09 PM
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Post by: Danes07 on April 03, 2010, 07:42:40 PM
I didn't used to like Pete. Thought he was brash, arrogant and a complete asshole. Then after watching him on a a bunch of shows over the past 5 years, I paid attention to what he was saying to people after he beat them or they beat him. Never a sour word or even tone of voice. Even in defeat he was cordial if not downright happy for the guy who beat him. It really opened my eyes to the guy and since then, I root for him when I see him on TV...because I found out, just from paying attention that he is a good guy. He's happy when he wins, no doubt about it....but when he loses, he almost seems happy for the guy who beat him, time and time again I have heard offer words of encouragment for the next match...and not just a cursory word or two...sentances. To me, this speaks volumes.
Stormbowler....can you prove that he still has a coke habit? Just because we can't prove he doesn't, doesn't mean he does.....its not guilty until proven innocent. I do believe that he put that part of his life behind him and hasn't looked back. Unless you have real proof to the contrary, stop slandering the man.
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Post by: JBracer2 on April 03, 2010, 08:00:11 PM
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WOW and to think not a one of you have probably EVER met him nor know him...
Hides his coke habit...isn't the internet a great place to hide and say whatever you like and NEVER have to back up....he still drinks but for the rest of his past, he has left that behind.
Has anyone of you EVER put yourself in his place? Trying to pursuing a career in a field that your father is considered to be one of the greatest EVER.
Pete is one of the greatest to EVER throw a bowling ball...he has has a GREAT career. I would REALLY like to know how many of you, posting negatively towards Pete, can even come close in their careers in comparison. I am glad to know Pete on a personal level. When I was still competing he was always coordial to me as well as helpful.
Get a life and quit spending ALL your time taking shots at anyone and everyone you feel compelled to. Those throwing stones....
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+1
Post by: The Stroke on April 03, 2010, 08:17:02 PM
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Stormbowler,
Because we can not prove that he has quit, that means that he has not quit? Guilty to proven innocent, right? Give it a break. Some people do change and from those on hear that know PDW, he has changed. If he has not, we have know way of knowing, so why take pot shots at him???
Once a hater, always a hater.
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What else do you expect from TCP/4pinhatesme? Once a moron, always a moron should have been your last line. Seany-poo is big and tough on the internet, but when it comes down to "manning" up at Maple Bowl (after his subway ride with his flame shirt and 6 ball roller) he is nowhere to be found. Remember Murphsquatch, Freddy is always on the prowl. Its getting close to summer time, you must be starting to sweat.
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Post by: charlest on April 03, 2010, 08:30:35 PM
Tommy Jones is also on a roll, shooting 1698 for the 7 games, avg: 242 for the 7.
Good ole Scroggy also shot 1700 for the 7 on Scorpion putting him in 6th, just ahead of WRW.
Malott's still in 1st and Barnes in 3rd.
This is some serious good bowling !!
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Post by: 67tbird on April 03, 2010, 08:43:31 PM
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The shades have nothing to do with the TV lights and everything to do with hiding his coke habit.
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the sunglasses are just 1 of those things that I think is ridiculous
I understand the lights give off a glare on the lanes
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I''m gonna have to agree with everyone else... that was 10 years ago, and he''s put it behind him. And don''t go thinking he was the only professional bowler doing it back then, either.
I''m glad to see him doing so well... averaging 252 on Scorpion is amazing
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Post by: MrMustang300 on April 03, 2010, 09:41:48 PM
He was very accomodating with his time and was very friendly. I can't speak about the old Pete. But the Pete I met was polite, had no problem giving autographs, and seemed like an okay guy.
Again, I am only speaking about when I met him off the lanes. He was not a "bad guy". I am only speaking of the one time I talked to him. He wasn't any of these things that people are saying.
He was gracious, polite, and friendly. If that does not fit into your view of Pete, I am sorry. He was all of those when I talked to him. And my son was so happy to talk to one of bowling's biggest names. Pete presented himself well. I know he isn't an angel and has done things that aren't representative of a role model.
I understand, but when I talked to him, he represented the PBA and himself positively. After Pete signed an autograph for my son, my son told Pete "Thank you", and Pete said, "No, Thank you!"
I know he has been less than positive in the past, but I think he is more mature and I can't say anything negative now. I am not picking favorites, but "Go Pete" works for me tomorrow.
Post by: Russell on April 03, 2010, 09:52:09 PM
Really think you need to back off Stormbowler....
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Post by: snowspike1 on April 04, 2010, 12:15:49 AM
he seems to make the show every yr of that oil pattern but never has the pin fall on tv.
PDW all the way... Nothing against Scroggy or Barnes.
Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on April 04, 2010, 12:43:50 AM
Post by: TDC57 on April 04, 2010, 12:46:03 AM
You keep proving you're an idiot over and over. Ernie Schlegel was the first pro to wear sunglasses on TV. He said he did it to cut down the glare but using your logic he must have been high on cocaine every time he was on TV.
Post by: ebo4life on April 04, 2010, 12:49:38 AM
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Post by: stealth on April 04, 2010, 12:56:13 AM
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I cant stand pdw because he thinks hes RVD & gives crotch chops. As if bowling isnt made fun enough by people that dont bowl, lets add that 1 of the top bowlers thinks hes a pro wrestler.
Sorry, but no amount of talent makes up for his pure lameness.
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Storm Fast(pin under bridge, low weight hole)
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Post by: RandyO on April 04, 2010, 01:47:13 PM
Post by: RandyO on April 04, 2010, 01:58:57 PM
Post by: raiderh20boy on April 04, 2010, 02:17:41 PM
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Post by: Dean Richards on April 04, 2010, 03:40:21 PM
I go to school near his home town and he is always in and out of the bowling alley I practice at. Everyone looks up to him and he has not let his fame get to his head like others with a 1/100 of his credentials.
I am also friends with his brother Rich and I don't think anyone understands how much this means to Pete to win again on tour.
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Post by: renaissanceman517kak on April 04, 2010, 04:09:08 PM
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Everyone has skeletons in there closet and just because you are not in the public eye doesn't make you any better than anyone else. There are a lot of things that I have done that I'm not proud of and I am sure most of you feel the same.
+1, but I guess if you're in the public eye, you aren't allowed the same leeway as those of us who aren't...
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Post by: JustRico on April 04, 2010, 04:28:42 PM
B. In the big scheme of things...WHO really cares how someone else, that has no overall effect on them, leads there life. What he chooses to do with his life, as well as ability is his choice.
C. He wears the sunglasses to get by his nerves on TV.
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Post by: charlest on April 04, 2010, 07:10:59 PM
I knew it was a long time and I had a feeling it was nerves. I'm kind of glad he got that monkey off his back (not winning). He executed very well in the final match, almost flawlessly. As I've said before, I'm not a PDW fan, but what's fair is fair. He earned it this week ... the hard way.
Congrats, PDW!
(never thought I'd be saying that)
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Post by: charlest on April 04, 2010, 07:39:15 PM
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It's funny that WRW "owns" PDW on TV and today Walter did it again - using PDW as a tool to win POW!! There is no end to Walter's ability!!!
How true! and that one came way out of left field!!!
(POY??)
Wonder if Pete thought of that or when someone will tell him about it??
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Post by: BrianCRX90 on April 04, 2010, 11:01:32 PM
Post by: BrianCRX90 on April 04, 2010, 11:07:06 PM
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Actually, during the telecast, I believe Randy indicated that Pete believes the POY should be voted on by the Exempt players only and no disrespect to Scroggins, but he would vote for Walter Ray as POY.
I have to disagree with Pete on this. First of all, it never helped him in the past when on a couple of occasions he was not voted poy when he could have been including the infamous year of 1987 when the players gave it to Marshall Holman. Second of all, the best thing the PBA ever did was making the points leader get the award. The point system may not be perfect but it does show who was the most consistent player in a season was and not the bowler that got a title or two and a major and then didn't make cuts on certain tournaments or even show up due to injuries or by choice. They mentioned Brad Angelo was the points leader one season. This was back around 04 and he did win point totals but never won a title. So certainly he should have won and if Mike Scroggins won today and was the highest point leader he should have won.