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charlest

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Machuga at the Pepsi Red, White & Blue ...
« on: January 11, 2010, 10:45:22 AM »
No one noticed that he seems to have gone to a Sarge Easter grip? To great effect. He bowled and executed very well.

I'm slightly surprised at the lack of notice and posts on this show. The bowling was very good, even if
- the left pair was much tougher than the right pair,
- the scores were high but mistakes resulted in 10 pins and 4 pins and it seemed, except for Garber's final match that the best execution won each match.
- Scroggins had the right ball and the right drilling.
- Scroggins doubled in his first two matches to lock them up and then carried the world.
- it seems like Scroggins still would have won even if Garber carried the solid 8 pin and one of those 10 ringing pins.
- Garber bowled incredibly well for his first time on national TV. Many kudos to him and his performance.
- Fagan is covering fewer and fewer boards and his scoring on TV is getting better and better, due, I believe to his cutting his hook down to controllable levels. (PBA patterns on TV seem to require this lately.)


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Re: Machuga at the Pepsi Red, White & Blue ...
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2010, 06:55:01 PM »
Jeff, I thought I saw the sarge on that C 2.5 also.  Some other observations:

1.  Patrick Allen had the chance to put pressure on Scroggs in the tenth.  he didn't

2.  WRW missing the pocket badly in the sudden death.

if barnes would of done either of these, we would have reading the list of posts with variations of the word non-clutch or the word choke in it.  But, the truth is: it happens, sometimes you make a bad shot, even if you are WRW or Allen, 2 HOF's.

Also, Garber did not miss the pocket all day.
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charlest

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Re: Machuga at the Pepsi Red, White & Blue ...
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2010, 08:20:29 PM »
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Jeff, I thought I saw the sarge on that C 2.5 also.  Some other observations:

1.  Patrick Allen had the chance to put pressure on Scroggs in the tenth.  he didn't


I saw that. I think that pair either didn't take the oil correctly or the oil machine messed it up royally. Patrick doesn't fail that way.

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2.  WRW missing the pocket badly in the sudden death.



I think he got a little lazy, unfocused. No other explanation. I was shocked, to say the least.

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if barnes would of done either of these, we would have reading the list of posts with variations of the word non-clutch or the word choke in it.  But, the truth is: it happens, sometimes you make a bad shot, even if you are WRW or Allen, 2 HOF's.



Agreed, in spades. Barnes is getting it, when he might not necessarily, under other circumstances.

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Also, Garber did not miss the pocket all day.
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He dun guuud!!!
Loved when he chose WRW to start.
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DON DRAPER

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Re: Machuga at the Pepsi Red, White & Blue ...
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2010, 08:48:02 PM »
you probably noticed so few posts on this subject as there are so many crybabys who scream "wait a few days till i see it". never mind that the results have been available for some time now. the only real surprise i saw was walter ray's washout in the "overtime".

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Re: Machuga at the Pepsi Red, White & Blue ...
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2010, 08:58:11 PM »
Agreed, Walter''s second shot in sudden death can only be explained as an uncharacteristic lapse in focus, considering that it was the ONLY time in 2 games that he missed the pocket. The ball was obviously too far right off his hand, and he knew it.

The fact that the left pair was apparently tougher can be easily explained... it was on a wall! No wonder Fagan was trying to play the right lane deeper than the left...

Also, I didn''t happen to notice Machuga''s grip, but I did notice that he executed very well. I was impressed.

I was also impressed with Garber''s performance... the cameras didn''t seem to affect him at all. Not missing the pocket for 3 games on TV is quite an accomplishment, even if it was an easier pattern.

Lets finish the post with a question. I was talking to the local pro shop owner about the show, and he mentioned that if the Red, White and Blue patterns are approved, the easiest one (5 to 1 ratio) will become the USBC standard house shot. Anyone else hear this, as I find it a little hard to believe, although it would be nice.

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Re: Machuga at the Pepsi Red, White & Blue ...
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2010, 09:15:42 PM »
I thought the 5:1 pattern was the hardest.  Sport bowling and PBA Experience leagues pick up with 3:1 and 2:1 patterns.  I don't remember them saying what the ratios were on the easier patterns.

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Re: Machuga at the Pepsi Red, White & Blue ...
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2010, 11:45:36 PM »
shelley, that would certainly make more sense. The tougher of the red,white and blue patterns was said to be "a small step down from the PBA patterns." So I suppose the 5 to 1 ratio pattern could qualify there. Today's pattern looked to have more hold, but certainly penalized bowlers more for missing outside then inside. Even if the 5-to-1 is the toughest... what are your opinions on a standardized house shot? That is what Scott (pro shop owner) said... if approved the USBC was looking to use one of the new patterns as a standardized house shot. Which I think is a great idea, and something we've needed for a long time - I can't count the times when people have come to our tournaments with inflated averages from an easier house in the area, and had absolutely no chance... minimizing that would be awesome.

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Re: Machuga at the Pepsi Red, White & Blue ...
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2010, 03:51:58 AM »
I did notice the sarge easter grip Machuga had.  I wasn't completely sure that's what I saw but I thought it was different.  And I agree, his execution was great.  I always think that about him though, I'm a big fan of his game.
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Re: Machuga at the Pepsi Red, White & Blue ...
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2010, 05:48:42 AM »
He didn't go a sarge easter grip...he had a bunch of tape on his ring finger that would make it looking like that grip if you didn't look closely enough.  I just went onto YouTube to double check and...yup, it's tape.
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Re: Machuga at the Pepsi Red, White & Blue ...
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2010, 08:00:20 AM »
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I did notice the sarge easter grip Machuga had.  I wasn't completely sure that's what I saw but I thought it was different.  And I agree, his execution was great.  I always think that about him though, I'm a big fan of his game.
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I am also. Smooooth, for a righty, in the way that a few lefties are (Dave Davis & Parker come to mind), but Mike can stroke it or hook it.
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Re: Machuga at the Pepsi Red, White & Blue ...
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2010, 08:01:15 AM »
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He didn't go a sarge easter grip...he had a bunch of tape on his ring finger that would make it looking like that grip if you didn't look closely enough.  I just went onto YouTube to double check and...yup, it's tape.
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Ah! Thanks, Chris. You're the sharp eyed one.
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Re: Machuga at the Pepsi Red, White & Blue ...
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2010, 10:05:50 AM »
Chris nailed it, during the telecast at the beginning you can look at his ball before his first shot and see he has finger inserts and the holes are right next to each other. Also a bit later on you can tell its blue tape on his ring finger that caused it to blend in to the ball.


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Re: Machuga at the Pepsi Red, White & Blue ...
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2010, 01:17:12 PM »
There is not now nor has there even been a standard house shot and I highly doubt that USBC would or could ever mandate one.  The proprietors just would not go along for fear that the house down the road would put up a better block and draw customers away from centers using anything tougher than the great wall.  Let's face it until bowlers demand from the proprietors something other than walls and all proprietors agree to go along, it will never happen.

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Re: Machuga at the Pepsi Red, White & Blue ...
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2010, 02:15:52 AM »
It was the 3rd frame that I must have been watching his hand and thought it was sarge easter.  after watching again it looked to me that he was tucking his ring finger and I didn't see the hole at that angle, which gave the impression that he had a sarge easter grip.
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Re: Machuga at the Pepsi Red, White & Blue ...
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2010, 06:34:59 PM »
I picked Machuga for the POY award before the season on this board. So far so bad but I will gripe against the "world series of bowling" on that. I have for a few years and more have noticed this guy and when he was even much younger starting how much game this guy has and went with an instinct how good he was going to do this season.
What I didn't know when he made this telecast how much better then even before when he was throwing it great how good he was throwing it. His release, follow through, stance and demeanor is more impressive then I've ever noticed. I guarantee he will win a title this season and at least if he doesn't do that then he will make a couple shows before this season is over.