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Bjaardker

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Was watching a show from 2003.. What I miss..
« on: December 14, 2005, 09:46:06 AM »
I was watching the 2003 Earl Anthony open today & realized, I used to enjoy watching bowling a lot more than I do now.

So far I think the 2005 season has been pretty poor. And 2004 aside from a few highlights like Liz Johnson, was also snore inducing.

What I miss:

The 5 person stepladder format. I always thought that the wildcard match added a lot to the show. First, you got to see an extra face & style on the show. Second, there was some excitement to watch someone step up the ladder.

Bowlers playing the twig. In 2003 it seemed that the twig was a viable line. Mika & Duke played it quite a bit. Now, rarely if ever do you see it.

The Via Lanes. I think they made for a better battlefield & carried/broke down more similar to the lanes I bowl on.

Walter Ray. We haven't seen him in a really long time. I think a big portion of that is the new lanes/oil & the new qualifying format.

One last thing that I know isn't PBA, but I still miss it. The PWBA. I miss watching the ladies. Although the show production was terrible, their bowling was a great lesson for me since their style is much more similar to mine.

 

BrianCRX90

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Re: Was watching a show from 2003.. What I miss..
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2005, 10:30:46 PM »
Bjaardker, you make very valid points. But let me express some viewpoints coming from a diehard PBA fan. The problem with the 05-06 season is only having the 4 bowlers on tv. This was done last season as well, and to combat the empty air time they added the skills challenge, which has already lived it's peak. Other attributes also. The same boring set designs with the crowd on the sides, Dave Ryan's medicore announcing , the same boring camera angles..etc.

Now for the 5 bowlers. As much as I want 5 bowlers on tv, it cannot and should not be done withthis format. The wild card was an unfair system. When they did it in 01-03, the player left in the round of 8 that lost but had the best match play record went onto tv as the 5th bowlers. The problem with that is one of those 4 bowlers that won thier round of 8 bracket gets screwed cause they have to bowl an extra match. Then in the next year of 03-04 they heard the complaints from fans and the pros so they changed it to the loser in the round of 8 that had the hightest pinfall from back in qualifying. That made it even more confusing and even a worse way to have a "wildcard match".

The only two ways of fairly getting 5 bowlers on tv is to either dump the whole bracket system and go back to round robin match play to a stepladder on tv.

The other idea that has been tossed around several times is go from a 64 man field to an 80 man field. You cut to 40 bowlers to bracket match play, to 20, to 10 then 5. Everyone fairly gets in.

Bjaardker

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Re: Was watching a show from 2003.. What I miss..
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2005, 10:58:42 PM »
Brian,

I'm all for going back to the old system of match play too.

All I want to see is a lot more bowlers on TV.

Personally I think they should be showing the highlights of the round of 8 (or 10) matches on TV if they were really good matches. If they want people to realize how hard it is to become a champion on the tour, show people what they are going through. I mean, people sit through 3-4 days worth of golf. They know what golfers endure. I'm sure your average person is clueless to how much bowling 35-55 games is.

I guess... I was looking back at the '02-'03 season & how exciting it was in comparison with 04-now. There's something missing. It's an intangible, but there just isn't the excitement there anymore.


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Re: Was watching a show from 2003.. What I miss..
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2005, 05:52:54 AM »
You guys make to much sense for the new PBA.
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Re: Was watching a show from 2003.. What I miss..
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2005, 09:15:57 AM »
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The other idea that has been tossed around several times is go from a 64 man field to an 80 man field. You cut to 40 bowlers to bracket match play, to 20, to 10 then 5. Everyone fairly gets in.


But you still have to figure out how to seed them.  You could do stepladder, but then you have the situation that everyone in the stepladder is undefeated.  How do you fairly line them up?  It's not like round-robin where you bowl everyone and go by total pins.  Someone's going to have to bowl an extra match (possibly, since they might not make it through the second match) and someone's only gonna have to bowl twice.

I agree that it'd be better to have five on TV than four, I agree that they fill up too much airtime with garbage (though I like the skills challenge just fine).  I'm really glad that they got rid of the interview thing.  That was totally lame.  They could cut a lot more of the on-camera talking and just talk over the bowling like they used to.  Tessitore did that much better than Dud Ryan.

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