Post by: Rileybowler on February 24, 2008, 04:14:35 AM
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Carl
Post by: J_Mac on February 24, 2008, 12:16:07 PM
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"A word to the wise ain't necessary -- it's the stupid ones that need the advice." Bill Cosby
"Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."
Post by: Rileybowler on February 24, 2008, 12:19:28 PM
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Carl
Post by: BowlingWolf on February 24, 2008, 12:34:26 PM
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What do you expect from a bunch of 40+ pros?
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"A word to the wise ain't necessary -- it's the stupid ones that need the advice." Bill Cosby
"Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."
Those 40+ pros were the only ones capable of making TV this week, so that means they bowled better than everyone else, regardless of age.
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Regards,
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Post by: J_Mac on February 24, 2008, 01:05:58 PM
Quite the tactic, too bad it didn't work for Oatman last week though.
(No, I'm not being that serious, but you never know. Being ill on tour can't make the job any easier)
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"A word to the wise ain't necessary -- it's the stupid ones that need the advice." Bill Cosby
"Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."
Post by: charlest on February 24, 2008, 01:59:24 PM
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The topic says it all , the whole show was the most boring that I can ever remember watching, before someone says well these are pros and this was a very tough pattern I know all of that. How does one expect people to get interested enough in bowling with the program today, it sure will not bring in any new fans . I know before you say it I couldn't have done as well on that pattern as they did, however they are pros not me. This is not a put down on the pros it was just a boring show all around except for Frawley he did give us a little show
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Carl
fascinating post.
what I mean is I don't give a crap if you were bored. I liked it. Big scores don't mean crap to anyone; if you're under the delusion that it will bring more fans in, get real - it won't. If they're not watching now, no one going to tell them the scores were high, go watch it next week.
I don't know what they latest numbers are, but the numbers have been high for a long time. The prolem is numbers do not count. Only the right number of the correct type of people for the advertisers' dollar is what counts and bowling will NEVER, EVER have it. Get used to it. This has been gone over and over and over AND OVER. Nothing will change.
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Edited on 2/24/2008 5:44 PM
Post by: WSUstroker on February 24, 2008, 02:11:03 PM
Not as boring of a show...
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Post by: mrteach3 on February 24, 2008, 02:19:52 PM
You are welcome for that link from the Misc. section.
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Who needs a 300 or 800, when I have a 294 and a 295!?!?!
Post by: Russell on February 24, 2008, 02:33:51 PM
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Post by: Walking E on February 24, 2008, 02:38:36 PM
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http://video.youbowl.com/media/50/Missy_vs_Playboy_Girls_of_Golf/
Not as boring of a show...
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No dead wood on that video. Yowsa!
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Post by: Russell on February 24, 2008, 03:09:27 PM
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An excess of striking in the 80s and 90s is what destroyed the tour. It got to the point where there was no credibility.
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Then maybe the tour is just doomed then. Because people don't want to see strike after strike, and they complain when the scores are low!!!!
Funny when the guys were throwing bee bee's at the headpin and leaving 4 ten pins per game in the 60s noone seemed to mind....even into the 70s and early 80s. Resin comes out...scores go through the roof....people stop watching.
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Post by: Necromancer on February 24, 2008, 03:50:17 PM
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The topic says it all , the whole show was the most boring that I can ever remember watching, before someone says well these are pros and this was a very tough pattern I know all of that. How does one expect people to get interested enough in bowling with the program today, it sure will not bring in any new fans . I know before you say it I couldn't have done as well on that pattern as they did, however they are pros not me. This is not a put down on the pros it was just a boring show all around except for Frawley he did give us a little show
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Carl
I agree brotha! It was so boring I didn't even bother making a thread on it. The first match was the only one that I was interested in but that Aussie guy bowled like an amateur (which he was) but it was pretty exciting compared to the rest of the show. Then they got Ryan Shaffer for the championship which is total boredom since 99% of all bowlers DO NOT bowl, release, or rotate the ball like he does. WRW threw the same split in 2 of the first 3 frames of his game and only bowled 180. Overall, this week sucked!
1 out of 5 stars.
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Post by: jkiser01 on February 24, 2008, 03:55:14 PM
I would think he would change to another ball if the N'sane wasn't working.. I know Mo wants the latest and greatest on TV, but..
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Post by: renaissanceman517kak on February 24, 2008, 03:59:04 PM
Post by: sdbowler on February 24, 2008, 04:03:45 PM
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Post by: RevZiLLa on February 24, 2008, 04:06:56 PM
For the men, nice high prize lists.
For the women, MINISKIRTS!!
Seriously, high stakes makes something as boring as "Deal or No Deal" draw an audience. I wonder what today's average 1st place take is adjusted for inflation back to the 60's and 70's...chump change!
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Post by: Pat Patterson on February 24, 2008, 04:08:19 PM
quote:quote:
The topic says it all , the whole show was the most boring that I can ever remember watching, before someone says well these are pros and this was a very tough pattern I know all of that. How does one expect people to get interested enough in bowling with the program today, it sure will not bring in any new fans . I know before you say it I couldn't have done as well on that pattern as they did, however they are pros not me. This is not a put down on the pros it was just a boring show all around except for Frawley he did give us a little show
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Carl
fascinating post.
what I mean is I don;t give a crap if you were bored. I liked it. Big scores don't mean crap to anyone; if you're under the delusion that it will bring more fans in, get real - it won't. If they're not watching now, no one going to tell them the scores were high, go watch it next week.
I don't know what they latest numbers are, but the numbers have bene high for a long time. The prolem is numbers do not count. Only the right number of the correct type of people for the advertisers' dollar is what counts and bowling will NEVER, EVER have it. Get used to it. This has been gone over and over and over AND OVER. Nothing will change.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Unofficial Ballreviews.com FAQ (http://"http://home.mchsi.com/~s-cross-7-28-71/FAQ.htm")
Edited on 2/24/2008 3:42 PM
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Pat Patterson
Post by: Necromancer on February 24, 2008, 04:15:48 PM
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If you want people to watch bowling, do what golf does...
For the men, nice high prize lists.
For the women, MINISKIRTS!!
Seriously, high stakes makes something as boring as "Deal or No Deal" draw an audience. I wonder what today's average 1st place take is adjusted for inflation back to the 60's and 70's...chump change!
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RevZ=======================
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I agree. Even poker is like one of the highest rated shows - especially the WSOP and it is just CARDS! Bowling needs to raise the stakes every week and then you will see who is good and who isn't. I still have the belief that you are not seeing the best bowlers in the world every week - similar to that of MMA right now. The prize pool is too low. Last week for the Kimbo Elite fight, the low fighter of the early matches got $1!!! And he won!!! The guy he beat won $25,000! LOL! Bowling needs to make it so that the top prize is at least $500,000 or something.
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Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
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Post by: MrMustang300 on February 24, 2008, 04:29:02 PM
Come on folks, lighten up and enjoy the games for what they are. You might think an NFL game that is 3-0 or MBL baseball game of 1-0 is boring. Then don't even try to be a soccer fan! The whole point is that these guys are out there trying to win championships (and money, although not nearly enough) and this is their livelihood.
Unless you think you can bowl in an event and do better, please don't get so worked up about it. I am just happy I can still watch it every week on ESPN. I admit that I still miss the glory years of Chris Shenkel and Bo Burton on Saturday afternoons. But that was then, this is now (apologies to S. E. Hinton).
MrMustang300
Post by: mogators on February 24, 2008, 05:02:24 PM
Whats not to like about that?
Post by: tburky on February 24, 2008, 05:12:35 PM
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The topic says it all , the whole show was the most boring that I can ever remember watching, before someone says well these are pros and this was a very tough pattern I know all of that. How does one expect people to get interested enough in bowling with the program today, it sure will not bring in any new fans . I know before you say it I couldn't have done as well on that pattern as they did, however they are pros not me. This is not a put down on the pros it was just a boring show all around except for Frawley he did give us a little show
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Carl
Shoe it up and see if you average 140. Tough condition had to make shots.
Post by: MrMustang300 on February 24, 2008, 05:26:52 PM
MrMustang300
Post by: janderson on February 24, 2008, 06:26:31 PM
Those that have posted that the PBA needs to change something and generate some excitement, I agree with you also. The telecasts have a "canned" feel to them the last couple of years. It was a MAJOR today, and what was done to make it special or stand out?
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Post by: Rileybowler on February 24, 2008, 07:35:47 PM
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The topic says it all , the whole show was the most boring that I can ever remember watching, before someone says well these are pros and this was a very tough pattern I know all of that. How does one expect people to get interested enough in bowling with the program today, it sure will not bring in any new fans . I know before you say it I couldn't have done as well on that pattern as they did, however they are pros not me. This is not a put down on the pros it was just a boring show all around except for Frawley he did give us a little show
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Carl
Shoe it up and see if you average 140. Tough condition had to make shots.
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I guess you can't read or didn't read my post or read what you wanted to read . To me it was boring, I really don't care if its a high scoring or low scoring match, but I would like to see some competition when they bowl each other and I didn't see that today. After the Duke Walter Ray match WR said he played the wrong line , I guess it happens to the best of them
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Carl
Post by: normy48 on February 24, 2008, 07:50:34 PM
Post by: DON DRAPER on February 24, 2008, 08:02:19 PM
Edited on 2/24/2008 9:25 PM
Post by: Rev_O on February 24, 2008, 08:04:14 PM
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Rev-O
Post by: Rileybowler on February 24, 2008, 08:14:03 PM
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Carl
Post by: MrMustang300 on February 24, 2008, 08:35:54 PM
Then you have Norm Duke, who has been bowling forever and winning titles and hasn't been on TV all year because of injury, illness and whatever. And you have Ryan Shafer, who has a perpetual grudge match with Duke and they bowl for the final.
All of this built in drama and people are complaining? Would you rather have Joe Blow and Johnny Six-Pack from your local lanes be on TV? I just don't get it. I know it wasn't XXX action all day, but it was real. Again, if someone else wants to step up and go for it, then sign up for the U.S. Open. It's coming up and everyone is invited.
MrMustang300
Post by: bragbowlin on February 24, 2008, 08:54:34 PM
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Does WRW not have any other Morich ball he can use on TV? The last few times on TV, the N'Sane Lev RG has not looked very good. He leaves alot of flat 10's with that ball.... His ball reaction today was horrible..
I would think he would change to another ball if the N'sane wasn't working.. I know Mo wants the latest and greatest on TV, but..
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Post by: bragbowlin on February 24, 2008, 09:03:18 PM
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If you knew better you do better.
Post by: walterrayseggs on February 24, 2008, 09:25:01 PM
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Worst show since the one with Dale Traber. I have a hard time understanding how Frawley or Shaffer even made the show.
There were 3 300's shot the entire tournament. Frawley shot 2 of them. He was obviously nervous, and for once someone had fun on the show./discussion.
Post by: Rev_O on February 24, 2008, 10:03:35 PM
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Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on February 25, 2008, 06:24:21 AM
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Tom Cruise has officially reached Michael Jackson status.
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on February 25, 2008, 06:25:14 AM
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Tom Cruise has officially reached Michael Jackson status.
Post by: Jorge300 on February 25, 2008, 08:14:39 AM
My take on the show was this:
Frawly was very nervous, who wouldn't be, your first time on TV in the US at the World Championships. His bowling throught he week proved he deserved to be there and if he were to bowl on tour more, I bet you'd see him on TV a few times a year.
Duke showed guts and no matter how much he played it down, this was for his bowling life. He needed a good showing in this event to make it into the exempt field for next season. How many of us can say thay we could have performed as well under those conditions? Not to mention the cold/flu on top of it.
WRW has had bad ball reactions for last few weeks, on TV anyway. Some of it could be the fact that every knows he will be playing up the outside and they use the dry boards he created to their advantage, creating a different look then WRW expects. And in a one game match, a few frames of uncertainty is all it could take to give your opponent an edge.
Shafer, another close finish in a major. I think he needed to watch the Duke-WRW match and see the dry they created. Maybe a move a few boards to the right and bank it off that bumper, might have worked better then playing inside.
All in all a great show for human drama behind the bowling. Frawly standing up for the international amatuers (some of the best bowlers in the world aren't PBA pros), Duke's story, Shafer trying again, etc.
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Jorge300
Post by: Necromancer on February 25, 2008, 08:52:48 AM
quote:
Look at who are the ones complaining, two of the biggest maroons on these boards, Carl And Necromance. These guys couldn't shoot 250 if you gave 200 pins handicap on these shots. The expect these guys to shoot 270+ every game, but then complain cause of all the strikes. They just like to hear themselves talk, ignore them and they will go away.
My take on the show was this:
Frawly was very nervous, who wouldn't be, your first time on TV in the US at the World Championships. His bowling throught he week proved he deserved to be there and if he were to bowl on tour more, I bet you'd see him on TV a few times a year.
Duke showed guts and no matter how much he played it down, this was for his bowling life. He needed a good showing in this event to make it into the exempt field for next season. How many of us can say thay we could have performed as well under those conditions? Not to mention the cold/flu on top of it.
WRW has had bad ball reactions for last few weeks, on TV anyway. Some of it could be the fact that every knows he will be playing up the outside and they use the dry boards he created to their advantage, creating a different look then WRW expects. And in a one game match, a few frames of uncertainty is all it could take to give your opponent an edge.
Shafer, another close finish in a major. I think he needed to watch the Duke-WRW match and see the dry they created. Maybe a move a few boards to the right and bank it off that bumper, might have worked better then playing inside.
All in all a great show for human drama behind the bowling. Frawly standing up for the international amatuers (some of the best bowlers in the world aren't PBA pros), Duke's story, Shafer trying again, etc.
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Jorge300
I will bullet and number my post so you can clearly see the thread. You obviously need to see the optomologist if you think me and Carl are the only ones complaining:
1. I am smarter than you and more successful than you ever will be in life.
2. I could care less about the scores. Most of us were complaining of the lack of competition.
3. I could care less about what you or I shoot on these lanes.
4. "(some of the best bowlers in the world aren't PBA pros)" Change the word "some" to "most" unless you want to continue living in fantasy land.
5. The best bowlers in the world are NOT in the PBA.
6. #5 is true because like the olympics and track and field in particular, why would the fastest people in the world train for a race to make nearly nothing when they can go into more profitable sports (i.e. football)? That is why the idiots questioning the 40 times in the combine don't understand anything about sports. And yes I am saying there are NFL players that can BEAT the fastest olympic sprinters.
7. From #6, and similar to the MMA right now, until pay increases, there is no need to bowl or reason to when you can make more money doing other sports or even in many careers outside of sports. You think someone like Wes Malott would be bowling (he is IMO one of the best bowlers) if he had been a pitcher in MLB or a football player in NFL?
8. Stop living in your fantasy and self-righteous self thinking that the PBA bowlers are so untouchable and everything they do is just so great and they are immune to critism and how the PBA is just so holy and so awesome too.
9. Remember #1 the next time you call me names since you are always below me.
10. For proof of #1 or #9, I can scan my income tax form to really have you STFU.
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Brunswick Fury
Columbia 300 EPX T1
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Hammer Black Widow
Lane #1 Cobalt Bomb Solid
Brunswick Quantum Helix
Brunswick Quantum Double Helix
Storm Recharge
Columbia 300 SuperBeast
Storm Hit Blue Pearl
Brunswick Target Spare Zone
Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
Averages: Fall/Winter Sub 2007 213.000; Fall/Winter Season 2006 206.467; 2006-07 Year 213.067; 2007 Tourney 178.029;
BR Member Since: April 3, 2001
Edited on 2/25/2008 10:04 AM
Post by: Jorge300 on February 25, 2008, 09:19:09 AM
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Look at who are the ones complaining, two of the biggest maroons on these boards, Carl And Necromance. These guys couldn't shoot 250 if you gave 200 pins handicap on these shots. The expect these guys to shoot 270+ every game, but then complain cause of all the strikes. They just like to hear themselves talk, ignore them and they will go away.
My take on the show was this:
Frawly was very nervous, who wouldn't be, your first time on TV in the US at the World Championships. His bowling throught he week proved he deserved to be there and if he were to bowl on tour more, I bet you'd see him on TV a few times a year.
Duke showed guts and no matter how much he played it down, this was for his bowling life. He needed a good showing in this event to make it into the exempt field for next season. How many of us can say thay we could have performed as well under those conditions? Not to mention the cold/flu on top of it.
WRW has had bad ball reactions for last few weeks, on TV anyway. Some of it could be the fact that every knows he will be playing up the outside and they use the dry boards he created to their advantage, creating a different look then WRW expects. And in a one game match, a few frames of uncertainty is all it could take to give your opponent an edge.
Shafer, another close finish in a major. I think he needed to watch the Duke-WRW match and see the dry they created. Maybe a move a few boards to the right and bank it off that bumper, might have worked better then playing inside.
All in all a great show for human drama behind the bowling. Frawly standing up for the international amatuers (some of the best bowlers in the world aren't PBA pros), Duke's story, Shafer trying again, etc.
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Jorge300
I will bullet and number my post so you can clearly see the thread. You obviously need to see the optomologist if you think me and Carl are the only ones complaining:
1. I am smarter than you and more successful than you ever will be in life.
2. I could care less about the scores. Most of us were complaining of the lack of competition.
3. I could care less about what you or I shoot on these lanes.
4. "(some of the best bowlers in the world aren't PBA pros)" Change the word "some" to "most" unless you want to continue living in fantasy land.
5. The best bowlers in the world are NOT in the PBA.
6. #5 is true because like the olympics and track and field in particular, why would the fastest people in the world train for a race to make nearly nothing when they can go into more profitable sports (i.e. football)? That is why the idiots questioning the 40 times in the combine don't understand anything about sports. And yes I am saying there are NFL players that can BEAT the fastest olympic sprinters.
7. From #6, and similar to the MMA right now, until pay increases, there is no need to bowl or reason to when you can make more money doing other sports or even in many careers outside of sports. You think someone like Wes Malott would be bowling (he is IMO one of the best bowlers) if he had been a pitcher in MLB or a football player in NFL?
8. Stop living in your fantasy and self-righteous self thinking that the PBA bowlers are so untouchable and everything they do is just so great and they are immune to critism and how the PBA is just so holy and so awesome too.
9. Remember #1 the next time you call me names since you are always below me.
10. For proof of #1 or #9, I can scan my income tax form to really have you STFU.
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Brunswick Fury
Columbia 300 EPX T1
Storm X-Factor Vertigo
Hammer Black Widow
Lane #1 Cobalt Bomb Solid
Brunswick Quantum Helix
Brunswick Quantum Double Helix
Storm Recharge
Columbia 300 SuperBeast
Storm Hit Blue Pearl
Brunswick Target Spare Zone
Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
Averages: Fall/Winter Sub 2007 213.000; Fall/Winter Season 2006 206.467; 2006-07 Year 213.067; 2007 Tourney 178.029;
BR Member Since: April 3, 2001
Edited on 2/25/2008 10:04 AM
ROFLMAO
All this proves is waht a maroon you really are. More successful then me, ROFLMAOPIMP.
Show me your tax return there bozo, cmon, I dare you.
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Jorge300
Post by: Necromancer on February 25, 2008, 10:26:20 AM
quote:quote:quote:
Look at who are the ones complaining, two of the biggest maroons on these boards, Carl And Necromance. These guys couldn't shoot 250 if you gave 200 pins handicap on these shots. The expect these guys to shoot 270+ every game, but then complain cause of all the strikes. They just like to hear themselves talk, ignore them and they will go away.
My take on the show was this:
Frawly was very nervous, who wouldn't be, your first time on TV in the US at the World Championships. His bowling throught he week proved he deserved to be there and if he were to bowl on tour more, I bet you'd see him on TV a few times a year.
Duke showed guts and no matter how much he played it down, this was for his bowling life. He needed a good showing in this event to make it into the exempt field for next season. How many of us can say thay we could have performed as well under those conditions? Not to mention the cold/flu on top of it.
WRW has had bad ball reactions for last few weeks, on TV anyway. Some of it could be the fact that every knows he will be playing up the outside and they use the dry boards he created to their advantage, creating a different look then WRW expects. And in a one game match, a few frames of uncertainty is all it could take to give your opponent an edge.
Shafer, another close finish in a major. I think he needed to watch the Duke-WRW match and see the dry they created. Maybe a move a few boards to the right and bank it off that bumper, might have worked better then playing inside.
All in all a great show for human drama behind the bowling. Frawly standing up for the international amatuers (some of the best bowlers in the world aren't PBA pros), Duke's story, Shafer trying again, etc.
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Jorge300
I will bullet and number my post so you can clearly see the thread. You obviously need to see the optomologist if you think me and Carl are the only ones complaining:
1. I am smarter than you and more successful than you ever will be in life.
2. I could care less about the scores. Most of us were complaining of the lack of competition.
3. I could care less about what you or I shoot on these lanes.
4. "(some of the best bowlers in the world aren't PBA pros)" Change the word "some" to "most" unless you want to continue living in fantasy land.
5. The best bowlers in the world are NOT in the PBA.
6. #5 is true because like the olympics and track and field in particular, why would the fastest people in the world train for a race to make nearly nothing when they can go into more profitable sports (i.e. football)? That is why the idiots questioning the 40 times in the combine don't understand anything about sports. And yes I am saying there are NFL players that can BEAT the fastest olympic sprinters.
7. From #6, and similar to the MMA right now, until pay increases, there is no need to bowl or reason to when you can make more money doing other sports or even in many careers outside of sports. You think someone like Wes Malott would be bowling (he is IMO one of the best bowlers) if he had been a pitcher in MLB or a football player in NFL?
8. Stop living in your fantasy and self-righteous self thinking that the PBA bowlers are so untouchable and everything they do is just so great and they are immune to critism and how the PBA is just so holy and so awesome too.
9. Remember #1 the next time you call me names since you are always below me.
10. For proof of #1 or #9, I can scan my income tax form to really have you STFU.
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Current Arsenal (http://"http://s132.photobucket.com/albums/q21/mikecart1/Bowling%20Arsenal/")
Brunswick Fury
Columbia 300 EPX T1
Storm X-Factor Vertigo
Hammer Black Widow
Lane #1 Cobalt Bomb Solid
Brunswick Quantum Helix
Brunswick Quantum Double Helix
Storm Recharge
Columbia 300 SuperBeast
Storm Hit Blue Pearl
Brunswick Target Spare Zone
Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
Averages: Fall/Winter Sub 2007 213.000; Fall/Winter Season 2006 206.467; 2006-07 Year 213.067; 2007 Tourney 178.029;
BR Member Since: April 3, 2001
Edited on 2/25/2008 10:04 AM
ROFLMAO
All this proves is waht a maroon you really are. More successful then me, ROFLMAOPIMP.
Show me your tax return there bozo, cmon, I dare you.
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Jorge300
LOL. I thought about it and it would not prove anything for me and would probably release information that is bad like SSN. I am actually trying to find a way to show where I work and stuff but it is hard since cameras aren't allowed here. I have met a few people on this site at tournaments so they can vouche for me if you still doubt. Anyways what I do is mostly in my profile.
What I can say though is that I'm a nuclear engineer designing a state-of-the-art power plant - the AP1000 (look on google if you think this is made up). I also am going to the University of Pittsburgh all paid for to get my MBA (i.e. full graduate scholarship)(I can direct you to the class list if you think this is made up). I also am part owner of a gym and currently training for MMA in the UFC to contend for the middleweight championship title (look me up at pghfightclub.com). I am only 24.
Maybe you are more successful or not. Doesn't matter to me. I am not competing against you or anyone here. I am done arguing with you.
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Current Arsenal (http://"http://s132.photobucket.com/albums/q21/mikecart1/Bowling%20Arsenal/")
Brunswick Fury
Columbia 300 EPX T1
Storm X-Factor Vertigo
Hammer Black Widow
Lane #1 Cobalt Bomb Solid
Brunswick Quantum Helix
Brunswick Quantum Double Helix
Storm Recharge
Columbia 300 SuperBeast
Storm Hit Blue Pearl
Brunswick Target Spare Zone
Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
Averages: Fall/Winter Sub 2007 213.000; Fall/Winter Season 2006 206.467; 2006-07 Year 213.067; 2007 Tourney 178.029;
BR Member Since: April 3, 2001
Post by: Jorge300 on February 25, 2008, 11:06:37 AM
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[Maybe you are more successful or not. Doesn't matter to me. I am not competing against you or anyone here. I am done arguing with you.
Now you're not competing...you're one who brought it up!! You are such a loser, maybe those isytopes rotted your brain.....and as far as the MMA goes, after I wiped my lunch off the monitor from laughing so hard, all I got to say is, I'll but the PPV just to watch you get your @ss kicked.
Figured you'd pu$$y out on your challenge too, even after being dared. Now go back to playing with your dolls little girl.
And just to point out, I am more successful then you because I have a wife who loves me, a little boy who will grow up to be more then I ever was (God willing), I have job that pays the bills and lets me enjoy the sport I love almost as much as I want. That's being successful, not because you the junk you listed. With priorities as screwed up as yours you will always be a loser.
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Jorge300
Post by: Necromancer on February 25, 2008, 11:16:31 AM
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[Maybe you are more successful or not. Doesn't matter to me. I am not competing against you or anyone here. I am done arguing with you.
Now you're not competing...you're one who brought it up!! You are such a loser, maybe those isytopes rotted your brain.....and as far as the MMA goes, after I wiped my lunch off the monitor from laughing so hard, all I got to say is, I'll but the PPV just to watch you get your @ss kicked.
Figured you'd pu$$y out on your challenge too, even after being dared. Now go back to playing with your dolls little girl.
And just to point out, I am more successful then you because I have a wife who loves me, a little boy who will grow up to be more then I ever was (God willing), I have job that pays the bills and lets me enjoy the sport I love almost as much as I want. That's being successful, not because you the junk you listed. With priorities as screwed up as yours you will always be a loser.
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Jorge300
That is why I took back the successful part since it is ambiguous and varies from definition from person to person. The fact is that I hate my current job and can't wait to get my MBA. So right now, you are probably more succesful. Maybe my priorities are screwed up but I am man enough to admit it. And yeah you are not alone in wishing me to die in the octagon. I am out to prove everyone wrong and show what determination can do.
Anyways, the isotopes didn't rot my brain. I work in the design area and don't go near the uranium on site.
And yeah, I will be letting everyone know when I make it a PPV. You will be one of the first to know.
Peace.
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Current Arsenal (http://"http://s132.photobucket.com/albums/q21/mikecart1/Bowling%20Arsenal/")
Brunswick Fury
Columbia 300 EPX T1
Storm X-Factor Vertigo
Hammer Black Widow
Lane #1 Cobalt Bomb Solid
Brunswick Quantum Helix
Brunswick Quantum Double Helix
Storm Recharge
Columbia 300 SuperBeast
Storm Hit Blue Pearl
Brunswick Target Spare Zone
Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
Averages: Fall/Winter Sub 2007 213.000; Fall/Winter Season 2006 206.467; 2006-07 Year 213.067; 2007 Tourney 178.029;
BR Member Since: April 3, 2001
Post by: Necromancer on February 25, 2008, 11:18:33 AM
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Holy cow! So we have a nuclear scientist on board and probably one or two ditch diggers and everything in between. What exactly does this have to do with anything?
I was fascinated watching Frawley. Nice guy, big lug, could trhow the ball pretty well when his form didn't break down. Looked like a deer in headlights. Couldn'g get off the lanes quick enough.
WRW I think is the closest thing to the Doomsday striking machine since Earl Anthony. Love to watch his consistency.
Ryan Schafer, holy crap! You have to beat an amateur and then a guy who has missed almost all year and is sicker than a dog to win your first major and YOU COULDN'T CLOSE THE DEAL! I was shocked. Change balls, change lines, ANYTHING!!!!!
Duke, I was curious to how often the knee pads would have to be used by Stone and Pederson talking about him. Have to hand it to him though, he did it.
Boring? Hardly. Start looking at all facets of the matches and none are boring.
I LOL'd at the first line before I read Jorge300's response. It was just funny how we had a topic within a topic going on haha.
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Current Arsenal (http://"http://s132.photobucket.com/albums/q21/mikecart1/Bowling%20Arsenal/")
Brunswick Fury
Columbia 300 EPX T1
Storm X-Factor Vertigo
Hammer Black Widow
Lane #1 Cobalt Bomb Solid
Brunswick Quantum Helix
Brunswick Quantum Double Helix
Storm Recharge
Columbia 300 SuperBeast
Storm Hit Blue Pearl
Brunswick Target Spare Zone
Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
Averages: Fall/Winter Sub 2007 213.000; Fall/Winter Season 2006 206.467; 2006-07 Year 213.067; 2007 Tourney 178.029;
BR Member Since: April 3, 2001
Post by: Gazoo on February 25, 2008, 11:30:21 AM
Post by: BrunsBrent on February 25, 2008, 11:51:53 AM
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You might recognize me from such films as... "how to pre-bowl 900"
¡Viva la nación de Brunswick!
Post by: 65er on February 25, 2008, 11:54:56 AM
the zero. If all you want is a carry contest, pick one of those telecasts and watch it over and over and over and ......................................
Post by: Necromancer on February 25, 2008, 12:14:50 PM
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the death of professional bowling was when pros are winning on TV with games less than 210. people want to see the pros shooting 299 and half naked women, that would be a start to bringing back professional bowling
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You might recognize me from such films as... "how to pre-bowl 900"
¡Viva la nación de Brunswick!
I agree 100% that that was part of the reason for the death of bowling. You gotta keep in mind and everyone on this site, that there are WAY more casual bowlers than serious bowlers. Yes, bowling is the most participated 'sport/game' in the history of the galaxy but it is made up of like 99% casual bowlers. So you got one of these casual bowlers turn on the bowling and see a guy just win a championship with a 200 game. They are going to be like 'wtf'. I used to get that a lot when I took bowling serious and would have to defend and explain why the lanes are harder:
Me: "yeah the oil pattern is harder out there"
Casual Guy: "what you mean?"
Me: "you can't just hook it everywhere"
Casual Guy: "why"
Me: "because it is placed in spots to make the game harder"
Casual Guy: "why"
Me: (walks away and shakes head)
Bowling today is what MLB will be in like 5 years. Steroids brought record crowds and huge stats. Not saying steroids should be in bowling but they should remove the 'anti-steroid' that of ridiculous patterns, inconsistent lanes, and ridiculous requirements. Since bowling is more about skill than luck when compared to the WSOP, I say have every tournament open. Screw this exempt crap. You wanna know the first blow to the PBA? It was the EXEMPT PLAN!!!!!!!
To solve the money issue: Make all tournaments open tournaments with lower entry fees and allow like 1000 bowlers to enter. Something like $50 x 1000 bowlers is what? $50,000. That makes up almost 1/3 of their weekly $180,000 prize pool. Allow another 1000 bowlers to enter and you got yourself $100,000. With sponsors, ads, and other revenue from memberships, you should be able to have a weekly $500,000 prize pool. I mean who do they have doing the financial planning there? HIRE ME!!!!! I doubled the production of an automotive plant in one summer when I was only 21!!!
To solve the ratings issue: Add GIRLS!!!!!!!!!! JESUS CHRIST! Get rid of those two losers on there. Have Jeanette Lee be a host and another hot chick not related to bowling. Have college bowlers telecast the show. Get better camera angles. Change the game!!! I mean, they changed the game in NBA (3 point shot, etc.) They changed it in MLB (smaller fields, more HR's). Get a better time slot! Encourage actions like cussing and stuff. I know when I don't bowl good I am not silent, so why mute the bowlers. They are only human?!!
The PBA isn't dead. The minds behind the PBA, those that are old and don't know any better, those that grew up before Generation X and Y, those that are still against the new technology breaking the game, those that refuse to change from their old ways, --- those are dead.
This is basic and the PBA just makes it way too complicated. Raising revenue is my middle name!!
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Current Arsenal (http://"http://s132.photobucket.com/albums/q21/mikecart1/Bowling%20Arsenal/")
Brunswick Fury
Columbia 300 EPX T1
Storm X-Factor Vertigo
Hammer Black Widow
Lane #1 Cobalt Bomb Solid
Brunswick Quantum Helix
Brunswick Quantum Double Helix
Storm Recharge
Columbia 300 SuperBeast
Storm Hit Blue Pearl
Brunswick Target Spare Zone
Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
Averages: Fall/Winter Sub 2007 213.000; Fall/Winter Season 2006 206.467; 2006-07 Year 213.067; 2007 Tourney 178.029;
BR Member Since: April 3, 2001
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on February 25, 2008, 12:19:23 PM
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Tom Cruise has officially reached Michael Jackson status.
Post by: Rileybowler on February 25, 2008, 12:58:46 PM
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Look at who are the ones complaining, two of the biggest maroons on these boards, Carl And Necromance. These guys couldn't shoot 250 if you gave 200 pins handicap on these shots. The expect these guys to shoot 270+ every game, but then complain cause of all the strikes. They just like to hear themselves talk, ignore them and they will go away.
My take on the show was this:
Frawly was very nervous, who wouldn't be, your first time on TV in the US at the World Championships. His bowling throught he week proved he deserved to be there and if he were to bowl on tour more, I bet you'd see him on TV a few times a year.
Duke showed guts and no matter how much he played it down, this was for his bowling life. He needed a good showing in this event to make it into the exempt field for next season. How many of us can say thay we could have performed as well under those conditions? Not to mention the cold/flu on top of it.
WRW has had bad ball reactions for last few weeks, on TV anyway. Some of it could be the fact that every knows he will be playing up the outside and they use the dry boards he created to their advantage, creating a different look then WRW expects. And in a one game match, a few frames of uncertainty is all it could take to give your opponent an edge.
Shafer, another close finish in a major. I think he needed to watch the Duke-WRW match and see the dry they created. Maybe a move a few boards to the right and bank it off that bumper, might have worked better then playing inside.
All in all a great show for human drama behind the bowling. Frawly standing up for the international amatuers (some of the best bowlers in the world aren't PBA pros), Duke's story, Shafer trying again, etc.
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Jorge300
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JORGE everyone on here knows that you are the only one who knows anything about everything and you are the only one with a valid opinion. You are also the only one who constantly belittles and name calls and probably are on more ignore list than anyone on this site that should tell you something, but I doubt it
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Carl
Post by: DON DRAPER on February 25, 2008, 03:10:44 PM
Post by: BowlingWolf on February 25, 2008, 04:43:36 PM
I thought this past Sunday's show was fraught with uncertainty, certainly when pondering who the prevalent bowler might be on such a tough shot.
In the end, one of the most exceptionally talented bowlers ever came through in dramatic fashion.
Coughing, heavy breathing, tears in eyes, and a salvaged career--can't get any better than that.
It was a show full of high excitement, and I thoroughly enjoyed!
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Regards,
BowlingWolf
Post by: Rileybowler on February 25, 2008, 05:33:37 PM
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Carl
Post by: BrianCRX90 on February 25, 2008, 06:05:39 PM
Post by: Monster Pike on February 25, 2008, 06:10:31 PM
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"The last time I saw a face like yours, it had a hook in it's mouth." Rodney Dangerfield
Post by: themachine300 on February 26, 2008, 10:57:01 AM
Whoever thought this week was boring might as well not even bother watching the US Open coming up. Scores are gonna be low for that one too...
*Off Now*
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www.bowlingsolutions.com
Move left, hook it more.....
Tommy Jones is a Gamecock fan...are you???
We shall now refer a 4-bagger as a hambone...Mark it down the revolution has started!
Post by: Rileybowler on February 26, 2008, 11:00:08 AM
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Carl
Post by: Necromancer on February 26, 2008, 12:22:41 PM
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I'll bet you there will be a lot more competition then what we saw this time
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Carl
Yeah, I got a few friends in it. Last year one placed just outside the final cut. I'd go if I had more vacation at my job.
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Current Arsenal (http://"http://s132.photobucket.com/albums/q21/mikecart1/Bowling%20Arsenal/")
Brunswick Fury
Columbia 300 EPX T1
Storm X-Factor Vertigo
Hammer Black Widow
Lane #1 Cobalt Bomb Solid
Brunswick Quantum Helix
Brunswick Quantum Double Helix
Storm Recharge
Columbia 300 SuperBeast
Storm Hit Blue Pearl
Brunswick Target Spare Zone
Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
Averages: Fall/Winter Sub 2007 213.000; Fall/Winter Season 2006 206.467; 2006-07 Year 213.067; 2007 Tourney 178.029;
BR Member Since: April 3, 2001