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Title: Mushtare going pro
Post by: neb5482 on December 01, 2008, 05:20:17 AM
http://pba.com/schedule/tourdetails.asp?ID=1575&Type=0

Can he add PBA Rookie of the year to his credits?
Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: Hogsharley on December 01, 2008, 01:26:18 PM
For some reason I don't feel that he is going to have the success (cough, cough) that he's had in the comfy comfines of his home house.
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: janderson on December 01, 2008, 01:34:26 PM
Did anyone tell him they don't allow you to pre-bowl? Pre-pay yes, pre-bowl, no.

Edited on 12/1/2008 2:34 PM
Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: KDawg77 on December 01, 2008, 01:40:16 PM
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: SteveAustin2808 on December 01, 2008, 01:59:59 PM
They're a lot of different perspectives that will be shown from this.

I see it like this...

For him to do this, I think he is trying to establish creditability and possibly reach goals that he has made for himself...

But...

Even if he succeeds or has some kind of success, he will always be ridiculed by those who believe he never achieved the feat.

I have no sides to choose as to whether or not he's credible...I try and stay neutral and see it from both sides of the coin...

just my opinion...

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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: sdbowler on December 01, 2008, 02:08:59 PM
It is nice to see him try it though. So many on this board criticize him but I am interested to see what he does.
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: mainzer on December 01, 2008, 02:14:21 PM
I wanna see what he does but I don't think it will be much, I still think he is nothing but a hack who has had it his way in his bowling alley all his life. When He gets to the PBA it will be a big switch.
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: on December 01, 2008, 02:19:35 PM
I'd rather see him try the shark pattern. Cheetah is the highest scoring pattern, if I remember correctly.

It will be interesting to see how well he does. For his sake it would be nice to have a good showing, though.


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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: jthales on December 01, 2008, 02:24:14 PM
he probly prefers to bowl on the Cheater pattern
Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: Dan Belcher on December 01, 2008, 02:26:37 PM
To be fair, the Cheetah used to be one of the easier patterns.  Now that they've tightened the pattern up, it's nowhere near as high scoring as it used to be and is actually probably one of the tougher patterns.
Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: on December 01, 2008, 02:28:26 PM
It should be a good test for him either way.


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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: LuckyLefty on December 01, 2008, 02:28:58 PM
He has a 6th place in his first regional....On the SHARK.

This is the pattern a well known coach said he would do well on.....
He theorized he may struggle on all the other patterns.. that are more reactive.

REgards,

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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: Rev_O on December 01, 2008, 02:32:41 PM
Even though I dislike the kid for what he has done to our once great respectable game, lets not hang him until after he bowls. I know In my first TQR on Cheeter, I averaged an amazing 192 after averaging almost 250 in league. I still have the scars from you armchair qb's to prove it.
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: MI 2 AZ on December 01, 2008, 02:39:40 PM
quote:
I know In my first TQR on Cheeter,


Rev-O, was that a Freudian slip directed towards Mr M?  



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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: janderson on December 01, 2008, 03:14:57 PM
quote:
Even though I dislike the kid for what he has done to our once great respectable game, lets not hang him until after he bowls.


Ok, no pre-hanging?
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: OddBalls on December 01, 2008, 03:24:38 PM
I wish him well.

Does he have skills, IMHO, yes..

Did he bowl multiple 900's??  NFW...
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: snowman4951 on December 01, 2008, 03:25:17 PM
Are you all kidding me? "He whom must not be named" can tell prior to his shot if he is going to leave a ten pin. C'mon, WRW is in deep danger of having all of his records smashed. I am going to warn Billy O'neill tonight at league so that he can prepare to get owned. This kid is the real monster!!! UM Lockness Monster! LOL
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: LuckyLefty on December 01, 2008, 04:17:40 PM
too bad you will never know how he tries to prevent 10 pins when he gets on a friendly easy to find league shot!

REgards,

Luckylefty
AGAIN...already has a 6th in a regional.
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: renoatpikeville on December 01, 2008, 04:24:16 PM
Maybe the commish can grant him one or maybe two exemptions into the PBA field of 64.

You know he has shot multiple 900, with one hand...
Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: KennyRambo on December 01, 2008, 04:28:55 PM
I predict he'll average 190 and not cash.
Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: Monster Pike on December 01, 2008, 04:51:18 PM
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Are you all kidding me? "He whom must not be named" can tell prior to his shot if he is going to leave a ten pin. C'mon, WRW is in deep danger of having all of his records smashed. I am going to warn Billy O'neill tonight at league so that he can prepare to get owned. This kid is the real monster!!! UM Lockness Monster! LOL
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Hey, I thought I was the real "monster"?!  LOL.  But any way, I wish Mushtare well also. Ooops, I named him.  Don't really think he did what he says he did though.  Shouldn't have gotten awards for it either.
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Edited on 12/1/2008 5:52 PM
Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: jthales on December 01, 2008, 04:59:50 PM
quote:
Luckylefty
AGAIN...already has a 6th in a regional.



he shot anuther 900 series  when  where
Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: bowlingnut07 on December 01, 2008, 05:01:08 PM
he should be in the CHEATER championship !!
Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: FastTracker33 on December 01, 2008, 05:02:37 PM
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So, there are some haters still out there.

I will meet you anywhere anytime.

You better bring some padding to cushion your fall after I knock you on your arse.

Beat me in a fight.

I have more talent in my bowling hand then everyone posting on this board

Robby


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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: spinboy on December 01, 2008, 05:05:11 PM
Would like to see this person make it, as he is from one of the local centers here in Central Florida :

Scott Newell  Deland, Fla
Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: DON DRAPER on December 01, 2008, 05:50:23 PM
he'll end up like tim mack and rudy kasimakis.......a lot of notoriety and hype but little success at the pba level.
Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: BrunsBrent on December 01, 2008, 06:29:46 PM
did someone fill him in on the fact that you cant prebowl the TQR?
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: Rev_O on December 01, 2008, 06:36:04 PM
quote:
Like I said

"Beat me in a fight"



I know you are not the real Robbie MUSTCheatare as that P.O.S doesn't have the SACK to show his face on here!!
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: KennyRambo on December 01, 2008, 06:55:33 PM
Is that a challenge?
Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: LuckyLefty on December 01, 2008, 08:19:30 PM
Again....


His first and only regional....this year....shark  (http://"http://www.pbatour.com/regional/regionstory.asp?ID=1701")

Took out Ryan Shafer in round of 8.

Experts who think the world of his game for top hat high scoring....feel shark is the only PBA pattern he can have high placements on.....I know not why....and they don't expect much on other "jumpier" patterns.

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS Robert is from what I have seen a gentle powerhouse and would not make comments like the Robert Musthare(sp) poster above.....IMHO...
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: Uncle Crusty on December 01, 2008, 08:56:39 PM
quote:
Again....


His first and only regional....this year....shark  (http://"http://www.pbatour.com/regional/regionstory.asp?ID=1701")

Took out Ryan Shafer in round of 8.

Experts who think the world of his game for top hat high scoring....feel shark is the only PBA pattern he can have high placements on.....I know not why....and they don't expect much on other "jumpier" patterns.

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS Robert is from what I have seen a gentle powerhouse and would not make comments like the Robert Musthare(sp) poster above.....IMHO...
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Give it up, guy.
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: LuckyLefty on December 01, 2008, 09:03:25 PM
Please post your first regional scores for us Crust.

REgards,

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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: KennyRambo on December 01, 2008, 09:09:41 PM
Good performance or not, he's still a cheating punk.
Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: LuckyLefty on December 01, 2008, 09:10:43 PM
Do you have proof of that?

REgards,

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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: Uncle Crusty on December 01, 2008, 09:35:18 PM
I've never bowled a regional, LL. Then again, I have nothing to prove to anyone since 99% of the bowling world doesn't have good reason to accuse me of being a fraud.
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: batbowler on December 01, 2008, 10:15:15 PM
I don't know the kid and can't make a judgement call as to what he did or didn't do. LL posted what he did in a regional and that speaks more volume than us be critical of the kid. He was awarded the score by USBC and I can't prove he didn't do it, but he can prove that USBC approved it! Let give him a chance and who knows what might happen. Plus, the phony guy posting with the Robert Musthare name can't even spell Robert Mushtare correctly! Good luck kid and knock em dead! Just my $.02, Bruce
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: LuckyLefty on December 01, 2008, 10:38:55 PM
Again...I believe that skills that tear up a top hat are NOT the same skills that tear up many of the difficult PBA patterns.

I've watched a lot of golf....and a lot of bowling.  There are easy course specialists in golf and hard golf grinders and FEW that could do both!  Bowling to me seems to be similar.
Tiger Woods is definitely one of them.  Nicklaus was more of a hard course star who did NOT win many scorefests.

Frankly....I'm surprised at his one regional outing though a much better judge of ability predicted shark would be his best pattern by far.
I didn't expect much.....and I don't expect much on a regional shot of any other type.  I hope I'm wrong.

Frankly I wish he'd stop trying to impress the skeptical bowling community and instead went back to bowling on top hats and ripping high 8s and staying just a ripem up stay at home bowler.

BUT it seems he has virtually stopped bowling on easy conditions or leagues.

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS I was not aware but I see he has some honor scores since his 900s.  Some 300s and 800s.
Some at the Syracuse Flamingo bowl which if I remember right is more of a tournament type shot and not really ones typical top hat...as relayed to my by a poster out here who also competed.  Don't remember the name.....
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: rockerbowler18 on December 01, 2008, 10:46:49 PM
The thing about Mushtare is not whether he's a good bowler or not.

I think we can all consider him well above average for a kid his age.

The thing that's in question is his morals...the likelihood of him shooting 1 900 series, let alone multiple are slim to none, with slim on his way out of town.

Because of this fopah(sp?), as it were, many people are less likely to trust his skill. It's the story of the boy who cried wolf, sorta. Only this time, a wolf never really did come along, just a small dog, but the moral of the story stands: nobody is going to believe any ounce of what he says is credible because the 900s aren't...and those are what he's [in]famous for.
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: KennyRambo on December 01, 2008, 10:56:46 PM
Did he bowl the first 900? Maybe. Maaaaaybe. The others? No friggin' way.

The 3 years he bowled JOG I finished ahead of him there. House shot game or not, he's still a jackass liar.
Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: SleepOnIce on December 01, 2008, 11:24:43 PM
Come on, you guys are just jealous you don't have a sanctioned 292 to your credit.


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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: rockerbowler18 on December 01, 2008, 11:30:15 PM
quote:
Come on, you guys are just jealous you don't have a sanctioned 292 to your credit.


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Lol, anyone can knock them all down. How many people do you know that can pick 2 off?

The amazing thing? He took the 1-5 out of a full rack.
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: SleepOnIce on December 01, 2008, 11:33:33 PM
That's the first 292 I've ever heard of.
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: rockerbowler18 on December 01, 2008, 11:37:41 PM
quote:
That's the first 292 I've ever heard of.
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I had 3 or 4 300s and 5 or 6 front 11s in practice in a 3 week stretch about 2 months ago...I was on fire.

I promised myself the next time I got to front 11, I'd shoot for 292. Never got to front 11 again.
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: Z Jellsey on December 01, 2008, 11:59:36 PM
FIGJAM
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: rockerbowler18 on December 02, 2008, 12:12:03 AM
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FIGJAM
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Good point. I did FIGJAM a bit there, didn't I? Oops. Mental lapse.
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: tenpin477 on December 02, 2008, 12:15:36 AM
I have never shot 292, but I can say on the Shark Pattern that I went 2- in a frame without putting it in the gutter, and leaving both corner pins standing.
Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: Rev_O on December 02, 2008, 05:45:30 AM
quote:
Hey you P.O.S

Anytime anywhere....

Beat me in a fight!!!!

Let's have a bowling face off.  I will even spot you 30 pins...





Lil Robbie isn't that far from where I live, only about 5-6hr drive.

I would even bowl you in your daddy's own house and BEAT YOU, all this after taking a year and a half off from bowling!!
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: LuckyLefty on December 02, 2008, 06:39:06 AM
Well as we can probably tell....this is NOT the real Mushtare.

But a match between RevO and Mushtare I would drive to.....if I was in NY that week.

292....one of the rarest of honor scores.  I know a guy that tries to throw them every time he gets to 11 in a row in league.  I thought it was absurd but....

REgards,

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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: KDawg77 on December 02, 2008, 06:56:46 AM
quote:
Again....


His first and only regional....this year....shark  (http://"http://www.pbatour.com/regional/regionstory.asp?ID=1701")

Took out Ryan Shafer in round of 16.


Fixed for those of us who can read!
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: Rev_O on December 02, 2008, 10:45:34 AM
quote:
Well as we can probably tell....this is NOT the real Mushtare.

But a match between RevO and Mushtare I would drive to.....if I was in NY that week.

292....one of the rarest of honor scores.  I know a guy that tries to throw them every time he gets to 11 in a row in league.  I thought it was absurd but....

REgards,

Luckylefty

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LL,

I know it's not the REAL Lil Robbie, but I figure I might as well entertain him a bit. I think he will average 175 with one game over 200.
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Edited on 12/3/2008 1:18 PM
Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: BBU on December 02, 2008, 05:45:25 PM
We should pull squares on what he averages and where he finishes.

I take the 185 Average square and the 97th finishing position square!
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: DP3 on December 02, 2008, 05:52:16 PM
He will do alot better than you all think.  He's still amatuer so he's only bowling for the high amatuer spot.  I say he'll average about a respectable 214-217 and miss high amatuer spot by 2 places.
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: KennyRambo on December 02, 2008, 06:05:11 PM
190 and will not cash.
Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: cheech on December 02, 2008, 06:08:37 PM
he is prolly doing it to prove he is at least credible. and cuz its the closest stop on tour to his house. a lot of people from here drive over to buffalo to do the TQR just to see how they would do. they know they dont chance a chance in hell but they do it anyway
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: Necromancer on December 02, 2008, 10:36:55 PM
I looked at the profile to the real Mushtare on this site.  I knew I remembered him from back in the day since I am one of the oldest members on this site.  

He says he has bowled 4 900's in his profile.  Is this for real?  Is this in addition to the 3 900's he has bowled recently? :O
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: 302efi on December 02, 2008, 10:55:07 PM
How many of you azz-clowns have bowled in a PBA TQR ?

...and your bashing this dude, why again ?

All you arm-chair bowlers are laughable
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: BBU on December 03, 2008, 12:56:53 AM
Ive bowled 2 of the TQRs at Vernon Hills, Il both times avg 201. Not enough to make it, but respectable. I have the right to bash. 185 avg tops and doesnt cash!
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: 302efi on December 03, 2008, 01:42:42 AM
quote:
 I have the right to bash.


Explain this "right"...please

Why is it when you bowled your PBA TQR's there was not a page of you on PBA.com like he has ?

Oh ya, your not important...thats why..lol
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: PWOICantHearU on December 03, 2008, 12:07:26 PM
Bowler's Journal did a thing about the odds of it happening...the odds of one person shooting 900 twice in a single lifetime is 129,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1! lol

quote:
I'm not bashing, I moved on with my life.
I've never bowled in a TQR, so I can't say anything either.
I did bowl the US Open last year and qualified somewhere around 50th, but fell drastically in day 4.

That being said, I hope he does well in the TQR.

Some of you people really need to get a hold of yourselves. They've been approved, there is nothing you can do or say to change that now. I personally don't believe it happened legit either, but that's because the odds of shooting TWO sanction 900 sets are so rare, rare doesn't even state how hard it is.

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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: baccala8872 on December 03, 2008, 12:10:02 PM
So, what are the odds for 5 of them?
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: Rev_O on December 03, 2008, 12:19:59 PM
quote:
So, what are the odds for 5 of them?
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129,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1
X            5


???  


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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: Jorge300 on December 03, 2008, 12:35:19 PM
quote:
quote:
So, what are the odds for 5 of them?
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129,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1
X            5


???  


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129,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ^5 to 1 is closer to the truth.

that's to the fifth power for those that didn't understand the ^ sign.
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: Oskuposer on December 03, 2008, 01:08:14 PM
that wouldn't even make the cut on the amatuer level Mushtare is a fraud and a joke back when jog was in ft lauderdale chris schlemmer and chris johnson and i watched him throw a few shots i was sick to my stomach schlemmer said what a joke and chris didn't know what to say
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: LuckyLefty on December 03, 2008, 02:09:11 PM
Wll....I have already put my comment on another page.

I'm shocked at how low the scores were on this suppossedly easy pattern by all the bowlers!

Only 7 bowlers over 210!

Tim Mack 198, Rudk Kasimakis 180, Mushtare 179.

I don't know what this has to do with high scoring on league conditions....I hear Rudy can wipe em out if he comes to your house and Tim Mack too!

I have put the comments in another post of a well known coach who thinks Robby is very capable of extreme high scores on league conditions and predicted success on Shark(which happened).

He also indicated he believed Robby would struggle on all other patterns of the PBA.  I am not an expert on these patterns but to this coach it is no surprise.

He believes with the right training Robby could improve dramatically on these patterns.  However he also believed that after Robby had his positive Regional experience on the Shark, that Robby would NOT get the help he needed to advance in his craft until he had a rough time like this.

I feel bad for him and all the other PBA aspirants who could not average over 200 on this "so called" easy shot....

BUT...Maybe it will help him....in the long run

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: ctturtle on December 03, 2008, 02:15:49 PM
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I know it's not the REAL Lil Robbie, but I figure I might as well entertain him a bit. I think he will average 175 with one game over 200.




Nice call Rev_O. Almost pegged it on the nose! 179 with 1 (220)
Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: Uncle Crusty on December 03, 2008, 02:16:56 PM
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Wll....I have already put my comment on another page.

I'm shocked at how low the scores were on this suppossedly easy pattern by all the bowlers!

Only 7 bowlers over 210!

Tim Mack 198, Rudk Kasimakis 180, Mushtare 179.

I don't know what this has to do with high scoring on league conditions....I hear Rudy can wipe em out if he comes to your house and Tim Mack too!

I have put the comments in another post of a well known coach who thinks Robby is very capable of extreme high scores on league conditions and predicted success on Shark(which happened).

He also indicated he believed Robby would struggle on all other patterns of the PBA.  I am not an expert on these patterns but to this coach it is no surprise.

He believes with the right training Robby could improve dramatically on these patterns.  However he also believed that after Robby had his positive Regional experience on the Shark, that Robby would NOT get the help he needed to advance in his craft until he had a rough time like this.

I feel bad for him and all the other PBA aspirants who could not average over 200 on this "so called" easy shot....

BUT...Maybe it will help him....in the long run

REgards,

Luckylefty
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If you knew anything about bowling, you'd have these two pieces of information filed away:

A). For the millionth time, the PBA has tweaked all named patterns, and as a result, Cheetah has turned into one of the hardest patterns on tour. The bump that used to be at the gutter is no longer there, and the shot tends to play deep rather than at the twig.

B). Robby Perfecto is a house rat and is a disgrace to the game. The fact that you're comparing him to Tim Mack and Rudy Kasimakis proves how out of touch with reality you are with respect to this kid's skills. When he comes close to accomplishing what either of those two guys have, then I guess your point is valid. And spare us some lousy golf analogy, like how Robby's struggles this week are comparable to Arnold Palmer's struggles at the 1652 U.S. Open even though Arnie won 17,729 majors in his lifetime and could mop up anyone.
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: BBU on December 03, 2008, 04:43:52 PM
He too is a nobody. If my daddy owned my bowling center, i too could pre-bowl on a fixed lane condition until I shot a few 900s. He is a house bowler thats used to an easy shot. He didnt do anything until the last game when the lanes dried up to what he was used to at his home center. He showed that he cant adjust to anything but his own house conditions. He reminds me of my cousin. my cousin has a 230 something average here in town and every praises him for it. He went out to bowl the TQR twice and averaged 181 both times!! Why? because like Robbie, he just couldnt adjust to the lanes conditions, because he was so used to his walled up house shot.





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 I have the right to bash.


Explain this "right"...please

Why is it when you bowled your PBA TQR's there was not a page of you on PBA.com like he has ?

Oh ya, your not important...thats why..lol
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: O RLY on December 03, 2008, 04:53:39 PM
Lucky Lefty why do you defend this kid?

You are as much of an idiot as he is.
Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: LuckyLefty on December 03, 2008, 11:04:37 PM
IF I remember right....the 1/129XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX figure came from the
"ESPN outside" the lines special on Mushtare ....

I believe that the statistic was based on the AVERAGE bowler shooting two 900s.
I believe the assumptions were based on the total number of 900s bowled to that point divided by all of the sanctioned bowling games ever bowled by all members. Over the what...80( year history of sanctioned bowling?

Instead of getting too complicated for some people out here.

I think we could all agree that the chances of a woman 125 average bowler shooting a 800 are way less than the chances of a 220 average bowler to shoot an 800.  

Following that logic we could also agree that the theoretical chances of a bowler in a hot phase averaging over a 10 game block over 250 are higher to shoot an  850 than another guy in the same block averaging 210.

That is not hard is it?

Therefore included in the number above is a lot of people who probably almost could never never never never ever even shoot an 800.  170 average men and below and also 170 average woman and below.  800 anytime soon.  Let me know....never happen.

Now to calculate the chance of a super high series for a particular individual we can easily say someone averaging over 250 like 10 strikes a game has a much higher chance to throw a 900 than a guy averaging 7 strikes a game and 210 average.

All the time I hear righties say....."Man if only I didn't have to bowl in all this cross traffic like you get that sweet china!".  I think a guy in a hot phase in league averaging over 240 in league with cross traffic would think man....if I just prebowl by myself(no crosstraffic) or with 1 friend I bet I could come a lot closer to 900(if in a groove) than bowling in cross traffic.

I still say.....

Here is a more UNLIKELY  statistical event for a righty than bowling two 900s....yet it happened"  (http://"http://ebonite.com/news_events/news_detail/minnesota_bowler_slams_back_899_series_with_ebonite_gamebreaker")

An 899, and 879 bowled within 10 days in regular league by a RIGHTY with cross traffic.  I actually believe the adjustments required to do this feat by Eric George is absolutely phenomenal.

Here is another example of what is possible.  Please read Ken Simards comments in this article.  This on a pattern much harder than Robert Mushtare's home house with NO cross traffic(ie pre bowl!).

"I must be the world's worst bowler with 9 strikes"  (http://"http://blogs.westallisnow.com/sponsors_name_here/archive/2008/12/02/pba-tour-the-ken-simard-story.aspx")

AND this on a pattern much tougher than Robert Mushtare's prebowl 900s!  Pressure, cross traffic, lane management!   Wow no wonder so many people are so impressed with Ken Simard!  (I've never seen him throw!).

My point is....I saw a guy in league once start 3 straight series with 9 in a row for every game!  Then I believe tighten up!  900 was possible every set if he just kept throwing the same....but he added an Xtra to the equation....he tightened up!  

To me....Robert Mushtare is a top hat killer (and I guess good on shark).  But bowling multiple super series on UNBLEMISHED CHINA....possible.  Above even on BLEMISHED china(Eric George) and Blemished PBA (Ken Simard)(tough shots) bowlers are ALMOST doing it!

Righties always wanted unblemished china so they could have a chance at super series.  They had it for awhile and now they've made sure they don't have it anymore.  Now only the much less populous lefty population continue the chance to have unblemished china.  But there are so few of them in comparison to the number of righties.

Robert Mushtare to me has only proven to me that he is a top hat killer(and I love to watch guys do that).  A best at this point a 1 1/2 to 2 (shark)trick pony.  Wonderful I say.  Will he ever be a great PBA bowler?  No idea!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS I still say a very important factor in the Robert Mushtare accomplishments is the unblemished (as a result of NO cross traffic) china aspect which no longer exists for righties in the pursuit of super series. ie...the prebow lack of cross traffic dramatically raises the odds for a righty to shoot a higher series versus his regular league.





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Edited on 12/4/2008 0:07 AM
Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: KennyRambo on December 03, 2008, 11:59:04 PM
5 900s? Fantasyland.
Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: BBU on December 04, 2008, 12:47:20 AM
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New Mr.900 Poster...Pre-Orders!

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l312/corona24pk/MR900.jpg
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: BBU on December 04, 2008, 12:50:55 AM
Theres only 1 Mr 900

http://www.bowlingindex.com/900inc/jeremyfront3.jpg
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Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: rockerbowler18 on December 04, 2008, 01:09:07 AM
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Theres only 1 Mr 900

http://www.bowlingindex.com/900inc/jeremyfront3.jpg
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You're right...and here he is:

http://www.bowl.com/SharedImages/allison2.jpg

Glenn '900' Allison
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Robb's Pro Shops: Bakersfield, California
Title: Re: Mushtare going pro
Post by: BBU on December 04, 2008, 03:14:29 AM
Is he the one that the PBA tellecast previewed not too long ago? They have a billboard that still has the info outside the lanes or something?


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Theres only 1 Mr 900

http://www.bowlingindex.com/900inc/jeremyfront3.jpg
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You're right...and here he is:

http://www.bowl.com/SharedImages/allison2.jpg

Glenn '900' Allison
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Robb's Pro Shops: Bakersfield, California

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