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Title: Norm Duke POY...
Post by: bowlingmaniac017 on March 30, 2007, 10:18:41 AM
Who agrees? I figured he was going to lose being down to Ameleto and how well hes been bowling. I then figured Doug Kent had it locked against Tommy Jones since he was up 3-1.

Being that I thought Norm was going to lose, I figured Kent would go ahead and have that extra push for POY. Well now its just Duke that is left.

With Duke being the last of the POY talks, he has to be a sure bet to win POY.
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Title: Re: Norm Duke POY...
Post by: hawkeye4life on March 30, 2007, 06:25:39 PM
i have to disagree if anyone deserves it its kent in my opinion.  hes one of what six or seven to ever win two majors in a season.  he deserves it, but hey again thats just my opinion lol.
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Title: Re: Norm Duke POY...
Post by: shelley on March 30, 2007, 06:29:02 PM
It's still too close to call for me.  If Duke had actually bowled more tournaments, I'd call him a lock.  In those seven tournaments he withdrew from, figure he'd make the top 16 or 8 at least three or four times.  That'd give him another 30K points or more, putting him over the 200K mark with Barnes and Wes.  Also put him up another $10K or so in earnings.  Plus he wouldn't have been out so many weeks.  As it is, it's three titles with a big stretch of nothing versus two majors with a big (big) stretch of nothing.  

As much as I like PDW, by virtue of the fact that Kent won two majors versus his one major and one standard, I don't see him being in it.  Couch, PA, and Rash, who all have two titles (I miss anyone?) aren't in it as far as I'm concerned.  The other three, even PDW, had better overall seasons (not to mention PDW's major versus their not-majors).

It's Kent and Duke all the way.  If Duke can make the show, I give him the edge.  Otherwise my vote (that I don't actually get) is for Kent.  Duke's extremely popular, the PBA goes out of its way to put him in the spotlight, so it's gotta be close.

SH
Title: Re: Norm Duke POY...
Post by: boondoggle on March 30, 2007, 06:35:11 PM
I think Kent has it as of this moment due to his two Majors (with a capital M).  Duke is still alive in the TOC and if he wins it's his for sure.  Maybe even if he places second.  Of the other still alive in the TOC,  Barney, Reyes, WRW, and TJ all have other titles this year and would put themselves in serious contention with a TOC win.  Especially Reyes who has 2 other shows and a TV 300 to go with this 1 win.
Title: Re: Norm Duke POY...
Post by: bowlingmaniac017 on March 30, 2007, 08:13:43 PM
I forgot about the tournaments Duke missed, but at the same time he has 3 titles this year in less tournaments than anyone else. To me that is far more impressive than the two majors. Im not taking anything away from Kent because he is an awesome bowler, but if Norm missed 7 events out of 21 then that is 14 that he bowled in, and out of 14 he won 3 titles. Correct me if Im wrong.
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Title: Re: Norm Duke POY...
Post by: greenefam on March 30, 2007, 08:22:28 PM
If Norm wins the TOC he is the player of the year.  4 wins including a major (argue POC as a major all you want - still 4 wins).

If Norm doesn't win Doug Kent is player of the year.  2 majors as compared to Norm's 3 standard events gives Doug the edge.
Title: Re: Norm Duke POY...
Post by: justdale on March 30, 2007, 08:23:39 PM
i think that if Duke wins than, you can say that he deserves the POY award, if not I think that Kent's 2 majors is too much to over come
Title: Re: Norm Duke POY...
Post by: Sawuser on March 31, 2007, 06:59:57 AM
I agree if Duke wins TOC, he deserves POY. If not my vote is for Kent.
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Title: Re: Norm Duke POY...
Post by: DP3 on March 31, 2007, 05:25:57 PM
Duke made the show.  I think no matter what he should get POY.  

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Title: Re: Norm Duke POY...
Post by: Traumatize on March 31, 2007, 05:30:34 PM
If we have learned anything over the past 3 seasons, titles do not mean everything.  All aspects are taken into consideration.  Average, earnings, MP appearances, etc.  Duke is ahead of Kent in every category besides one (earnings).  I believe it will be Duke, because he has been more consistant over the year, even though he missed a stretch of the season.
Title: Re: Norm Duke POY...
Post by: shelley on April 02, 2007, 12:59:48 PM
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If we have learned anything over the past 3 seasons, titles do not mean everything.  All aspects are taken into consideration.  Average, earnings, MP appearances, etc.  Duke is ahead of Kent in every category besides one (earnings).  I believe it will be Duke, because he has been more consistant over the year, even though he missed a stretch of the season.


Gotta vote for Duke now.  He finished eighth in points, only 15K behind Kent, in spite of placing 64th in seven events.  Outside of those events he withdrew from, he had a 36th place finish i the MC Classic and 40th in the Ace HW.  Then 21st in the Worlds.  Otherwise he's top 10, top 15 pretty much every week.  Kent didn't crack the top  16 most of the time.  Missed the top 32 a lot, too.  I'd like to vote for Kent, he had a career year and this is probably his best shot at being PoY, but I just can't do it.

SH
Title: Re: Norm Duke POY...
Post by: on April 02, 2007, 01:03:39 PM
Duke or Kent?  Toss up!  Either man could win without much argument...
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Title: Re: Norm Duke POY...
Post by: tonybowls on April 02, 2007, 04:37:51 PM
Kent should win it. 2 Majors in one season. Very tough to do.
Title: Re: Norm Duke POY...
Post by: WDE on April 03, 2007, 08:46:22 PM
I think Norm should win it, because of the number of appearances vs. Kent, higher average, etc.

Two majors in a year is very impressive, though, way to go Doug!

I wouldn't mind if either won, truth be told.  A pretty tight year for POY, eh?
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Title: Re: Norm Duke POY...
Post by: Jeff Carter on April 03, 2007, 08:58:14 PM
Its gotta go to Doug. Winning 2 majors in a year is a very impressive feat. That hasnt been done very often, so that puts Dougie in some very good company

Here are their stats side by side :

Titles-
Duke - 3
Kent - 2

Points-
Duke - 8th
Kent - 4th

Earnings-
Duke - $127,000.00
Kent - $200,530.00

Cashes-
Duke - 18/18
Kent - 20/20

Match Play App.-
Duke - 11/18
Kent - 14/20

Championship Round App.-
Duke - 4
Kent - 3

Average-
Duke - 228.47
Kent - 222.43


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Title: Re: Norm Duke POY...
Post by: J_Mac on April 03, 2007, 09:03:42 PM
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its gonna be pete.  he deserves it after getting screwed out of it when marshall holman beat him out
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Title: Re: Norm Duke POY...
Post by: ctturtle on April 03, 2007, 09:08:17 PM
Kent's 2 majors are impressive but, Duke did win 3 titles while missing 6 or 7 weeks. Close but I have to go with Duke.
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Title: Re: Norm Duke POY...
Post by: Sawuser on April 03, 2007, 09:37:20 PM
If you count ratio & total wins, that puts Duke on top, but my vote goes to Kent!
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Title: Re: Norm Duke POY...
Post by: laufaye on April 03, 2007, 09:46:46 PM
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Championship Round App.-
Duke - 4
Kent - 3




Duke definitely got more App, most of them in the booth with Randy and Dave
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Title: Re: Norm Duke POY...
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on April 04, 2007, 08:06:07 AM
Hopefully it is Duke.
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Title: Re: Norm Duke POY...
Post by: stopncrank on April 04, 2007, 01:09:09 PM
wes leads doug and norm in almost every category.
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