Author Topic: pba bowlers are better than joe bowler (Read 5175 times)

911chilli · « **on:** November 23, 2008, 05:46:05 AM »

okay after the telecast today i get it their better bowlers, but i already knew that. Is it that bad for the probolwers they have to have tv segement to explain it to us. Just thought it was a little odd.

KennyRambo · « **Reply #31 on:** November 24, 2008, 01:32:09 AM »

They should have just put out Taylor's normal house shot.

And with lanes being easy, it becomes more of a who doesn't #&$* up mental approach, as opposed to a tougher shot where you have to step it up to win.

tonybowls · « **Reply #32 on:** November 24, 2008, 04:19:43 AM »

Here's hoping the plastic ball championship is more exciting that this was.

Pinbuster · « **Reply #33 on:** November 24, 2008, 05:52:59 AM »

Another who agrees with Jeff.

When this was announced I figured the PBA had nothing to gain and everything to loose.

Scores on the show had to be high.

If they were everyone would say they expected it and no big deal.

If scores were not high then everyone would go that the pro's are not any better than the league bowlers at home.

They are trying to educate the general public but the general public doesn't watch bowling for the most part.

And you can tell by the posts here that few on this board give them the respect they deserve.

LordWalrus · « **Reply #34 on:** November 24, 2008, 07:45:32 AM »

Wow. Ugly show. First they tell me how much better they are, then tell me how easy my lane conditions are, and then the guys can't carry. If anything, this made feel closer in ability to the pros instead of the opposite, which for some strange reason must have been what the PBA wanted. I'm not sure why they'd want that, but it sure didn't work.

Two thumbs down to the PBA for this effort.
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BowlingWolf · « **Reply #35 on:** November 24, 2008, 08:24:36 AM »

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I second the sentiments of the people above.
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Pinbuster · « **Reply #36 on:** November 24, 2008, 08:41:12 AM »

Another thing I hadn't thought of is that the Chameleon show was done right before the Ultimate Scoring show was taped.

The Chameleon pattern was probably still in the memory of the lanes so the pattern might not have been as easy as it was earlier in the week during qualifying.

Gazoo · « **Reply #37 on:** November 24, 2008, 08:50:51 AM »

Agree with Jeff Carter "No good could come from this event" Joe bowler and Joe public do not watch the PBA for the most part. Those that do would think the pros weren't that great if the scores were low and if they were high not that impressed either. Really a lose lose for the PBA
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ScottC · « **Reply #38 on:** November 24, 2008, 10:52:52 AM »

Nice marketing plan boys! Instead of the "Let's grow our sport attitude" let's go with "We're so much better than you, you can't even contemplate it." I understand why they didn't use the joe bowler ths. They wouldn't have any excuse for the pro's joe house bowler scores. Instead, they're were the constant reminders that this is much more difficult than you're regular house shot. Only a little bit easier than the regular patterns.
The best part was the interviews, Parker Bohn III, to be exact. He say's "On our patterns, you can't just play outside 5 or 10." Cut to video, PBIII striking, playing where? Outside of 5 or 10.

The whole thing reminds me of golf announcers. When a pro hits a bad shot they always make some comment about the poor lie. An amateur hits the same shot and they just comment on the difference in skill set.
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« **Reply #39 on:** November 24, 2008, 11:16:05 AM »

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Nice marketing plan boys! Instead of the "Let's grow our sport attitude" let's go with "We're so much better than you, you can't even contemplate it." I understand why they didn't use the joe bowler ths. They wouldn't have any excuse for the pro's joe house bowler scores. Instead, they're were the constant reminders that this is much more difficult than you're regular house shot. Only a little bit easier than the regular patterns.
The best part was the interviews, Parker Bohn III, to be exact. He say's "On our patterns, you can't just play outside 5 or 10." Cut to video, PBIII striking, playing where? Outside of 5 or 10.

The whole thing reminds me of golf announcers. When a pro hits a bad shot they always make some comment about the poor lie. An amateur hits the same shot and they just comment on the difference in skill set.
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Monster Pike · « **Reply #40 on:** November 24, 2008, 12:08:48 PM »

Yeah, I just didn't get it either. If anything they put foot in mouth more times than not. None of what they said was needed at all. I am on the side that agrees that PBA bowlers are better, but that show was stupid. It overshadows Mike Wolfe's accomplishment in my opinion. They should have just left well enough alone & just bowled the dang tourney. This actually loses a little respect for some of the pros that commented, not for their bowling, but for their attitudes toward us league/joe bowlers.
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tdub36tjt · « **Reply #41 on:** November 24, 2008, 12:52:44 PM »

If it was all the best bowlers in the home house bowling that many games there would be near that many 300's. The reason these people are the best in the world is cause they are so good at adjusting to lane conditions and repeating shots and making difficult spares look easy.

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If you saw the show today you would have heard that they had 18 300 games this week , one guy had 3 and several had 2 , how long does it take for your house to get 18 300 games?
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BowlingWolf · « **Reply #42 on:** November 24, 2008, 01:22:18 PM »

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a suggestion going forward- how about showing the hour before the pba sport shot tournaments start, when bowlers are throwing 40 grit to kill the oil. better yet, why not throw 2 balls on the pair like college bowling and actually bowl on the pattern being advertised. that would bring some credibility to what we are watching and to the sport in general.

Great idea, but one that will never happen. This would show/prove that some pros have the skill to master fresh pba patterns, not pba patterns that have holes purposely burnt into them, making them considerably easier to shoot on.
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JS · « **Reply #43 on:** November 24, 2008, 01:31:50 PM »

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a suggestion going forward- how about showing the hour before the pba sport shot tournaments start, when bowlers are throwing 40 grit to kill the oil. better yet, why not throw 2 balls on the pair like college bowling and actually bowl on the pattern being advertised. that would bring some credibility to what we are watching and to the sport in general.

Great idea, but one that will never happen. This would show/prove that some pros have the skill to master fresh pba patterns, not pba patterns that have holes purposely burnt into them, making them considerably easier to shoot on.
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I have been at the last 2 US Open shows and they oiled the lanes about 30 minutes prior to the show starting. I don't think there was even 15 minutes of practice on them before the lights came on.

BowlingWolf · « **Reply #44 on:** November 24, 2008, 01:37:16 PM »

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a suggestion going forward- how about showing the hour before the pba sport shot tournaments start, when bowlers are throwing 40 grit to kill the oil. better yet, why not throw 2 balls on the pair like college bowling and actually bowl on the pattern being advertised. that would bring some credibility to what we are watching and to the sport in general.

Great idea, but one that will never happen. This would show/prove that some pros have the skill to master fresh pba patterns, not pba patterns that have holes purposely burnt into them, making them considerably easier to shoot on.
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I have been at the last 2 US Open shows and they oiled the lanes about 30 minutes prior to the show starting. I don't think there was even 15 minutes of practice on them before the lights came on.

I'm not suggesting that the pros would not be able to figure out the lanes, even instantly, but for the most part they would not come out of the chute and start stringing strikes at will, if all competitors were only allowed 2 throws on each lane, without the usual at least 15 minutes of practice (even if it's 4 bowlers shooting for 15 minutes, which is at least one game's worth) as you've indicated above.
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Necromancer · « **Reply #45 on:** November 24, 2008, 01:53:17 PM »

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I was hoping to see a walled-up strike fest. Why didn't they give them the lights out 10/10 bumper shot? It looked like it was over/under hell on TV.
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Agreed. Another disaster for the PBA. If they are going to be legit and say it is a High Scoring Championship THS pattern, then put up a walled shot. That shot they were playing was obviously not walled since nearly no one played coast-to-coast - like one would if it was walled. I don't understand the PBA anymore.

I bet the plastic ball championship will be something else. I can't even predict how it will be messed up, but if I see teh averages are at the 220-230's, then something will be fishy.
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