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c-hop

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PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« on: August 02, 2007, 05:30:56 AM »
First ppl comes to mind is
Tommy Jones
Jason Couch
Robert Smith
Sean Rash ( i say he is a cranker even though he stays behind the ball more thne anyone else on the list)
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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2007, 03:27:17 AM »

Im sorry but i dont think Brian Himmler is a crancker a power player yea but not a cranker. Plus if u get to ranking jason cough actually is almost as powerful as robert smith but he dont use it so he can be more versitile but he to can get to the 700+ range

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Currently on tour that I know of and my opinion, crankers:

Tommy Jones
Chad Kloss
Steve Weber
Sean Rash
Jason Couch
Ryan Shafer
Wes Malott
Jeff Carter
Brian Himmler
Mike DeVaney
Robert Smith
Eugene McCune
Chris Warren
Brad Angelo

Other players new to tour I don't know enough about them

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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2007, 04:58:39 AM »
Add Chris Barnes, Todd Book, Joe Ciccone, Dino Castillio, Dave D'Entremont, Steve Harman, Ronnie Russell, Jim Tomek Jr., Mike Wolfe, and Troy Wollenbecker to the mix. I don't think Ryan Shafer or Brad Angelo as crankers, they are spinners in my book. I've seen Tommy Delutz Jr. get a pretty good amount on the ball. Same as Mike Edwards and Tim Criss (even though Criss doesn't have the highest speed, he still can get on the ball). Bob Learn can rev the ball in the 420 to 450 range, so he is a power player. Chris Loschetter can get a good amount on the ball. I don't think I missed anyone haha.

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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2007, 08:53:56 AM »
Big revs dosent equal a cranker. The vast majority of the guys listed all have high rev rates but, they are power players or power strokers, not crankers. A cranker is a style, not a measure of rev rate. A Cranker is a, walk up to the line, plant, and let it all go type of player. Those guys have way too much finesse IMO to be considered a cranker by any means.

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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2007, 08:56:43 AM »
Revrate does not make someone a cranker..it is the armswing.....

Joe Ciccone, Brad Angelo, Ryan Shafer, Dave D'Entremont, Dino Castillo, Chris Barnes, and Ronnie Russell are NOT crankers....these are tweeners.
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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2007, 03:28:35 PM »
Ronnie Russell a TWEENER?!!! Your kidding. That guy really gets on the ball. Have you seen him bowling recently because wow. Then if you want to say those players are just power players, then there really isn't too many real "crankers" out on tour. How bout this post being changed to power player? Have you noticed that most ball companies that use a multi-scale way of telling what the customer does what, i.e. Roto Grip, they use the term "cranker" when someone gets more than 350 rpms on the ball. That is what I was going off of.

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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2007, 03:54:10 PM »
Blast from the past.
Ron Palumbi jr.(sp)

Mike Nape used to stand on it.

Bobby"Jackonit" Jakel was no lightweight either.
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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2007, 04:05:26 PM »
Everyone is forgetting the original, Mark Roth

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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2007, 04:52:51 PM »
Brian Himmler most definitly is a cranker. Definition of a cranker it not all about revs on the ball, but wrist action and ball reaction. Brian can play straight down the boards or hook coast to coast. Watch him on his first title win in Albuqurque hooking the hole lane throwing pins everwhere.

No way Joe Ciccone is a cranker. He doesn't fit the description to me. I would concider him a tweener.

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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2007, 05:06:30 PM »
The typical "cranker" doesnt exist on Tour today. Just because somebody has a high rev-rate, that doesnt make them a cranker. Todays sport is based on balance and leverage, not power and force. Even the highest rev-rate player on tour ( Robert ) generates a lot of leverage from his legs. Without a solid base under you, that high rev-rate wont get you anywhere !
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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2007, 07:36:55 PM »
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Currently on tour that I know of and my opinion, crankers:

Tommy Jones
Chad Kloss
Steve Weber
Sean Rash
Jason Couch
Ryan Shafer
Wes Malott
Jeff Carter
Brian Himmler
Mike DeVaney
Robert Smith
Eugene McCune
Chris Warren
Brad Angelo

Other players new to tour I don't know enough about them

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ryan shafer? lol

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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2007, 08:39:57 PM »
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Currently on tour that I know of and my opinion, crankers:

Tommy Jones
Chad Kloss
Steve Weber
Sean Rash
Jason Couch
Ryan Shafer
Wes Malott
Jeff Carter
Brian Himmler
Mike DeVaney
Robert Smith
Eugene McCune
Chris Warren
Brad Angelo

Other players new to tour I don't know enough about them

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ryan shafer? lol


Eugene McCune? Wow.

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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2007, 08:58:26 PM »
Jimmy Keeth and John Gant were the first to twist the cover off the ball.  Roth's style bridged the way to their styles.
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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2007, 09:08:40 PM »
First off, for those that do not know, Ryan Shafer's rev rate is at 435.  That is high for a spinner.  I saw this at the CATS location in Reno at the stadium.  I was pretty shocked at the number.  But, both Barnes and Shafer are around the same rev rate according to what they had.
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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2007, 09:11:47 PM »
BTW.......Ronnie Russell is not a cranker.  His rev rate, from what I have seen, can't be higher than 375-400.  Ronnie is a tweener.  I watched Ronnie at the Super Hoinke last year when I was there.  Brian Waliczek was next to him and got on it alot more than Ronnie did.  Tood Book is also not a true cranker.  His rev rate also is not near high enough to be considered.
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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2007, 09:40:28 PM »


Amleto Monacelli!!!!! He was a huge cranker in his day that could make balls move. He had so much wrist.  




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