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c-hop

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PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« on: August 02, 2007, 05:30:56 AM »
First ppl comes to mind is
Tommy Jones
Jason Couch
Robert Smith
Sean Rash ( i say he is a cranker even though he stays behind the ball more thne anyone else on the list)
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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2007, 12:02:44 PM »
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First off, for those that do not know, Ryan Shafer's rev rate is at 435.  That is high for a spinner.  I saw this at the CATS location in Reno at the stadium.  I was pretty shocked at the number.  But, both Barnes and Shafer are around the same rev rate according to what they had.
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Keep in mind though, the more tilt someone has, the higher their rev rate will be automatically.  If Barnes and Shafer have the same rpm rate, Barnes still puts more rotational velocity on the ball because he doesn't have near as much tilt as Shafer, and the ball has to rotate a longer distance for one revolution for Barnes.  Easy way to see that is when someone puts a ball on the ground and spins it like a top, it rotates incredibly fast because it has incredibly little area to travel to complete a revolution.  I feel silly talking down to a former driller, but I thought I would just explain it for anyone who may be reading otherwise.
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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2007, 12:26:37 PM »
I wouldn't consider Wes to be a cranker because he doesn't barely use any effort although he can get ALOT on the ball when we wants/needs to. I also wouldn't consider Chris Barnes to be a cranker.

Crankers:

Robert Smith
Eugene McCune
Sean Rash
Jason Couch
Mike DeVaney
Brian Himmler
Chris Warren (I haven't seen him bowl lately, but he was the last time I saw him bowl)
Rudy Kasimakis
I also think that Chris Johnson might be considered a cranker.


Those are just some. There are alot of players that get alot on the ball, but it doesn't require effort and I think a cranker is someone that really tries to put alot on the ball. Also, how can we forget Mark Roth in this category? He was the very first cranker!
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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2007, 12:57:03 PM »
Old School:

Mark Roth
Bob Hadley
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BrianCRX90

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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2007, 04:54:11 PM »
In a interview years ago, Ryan Shafer said he didn't compare himself to a cranker like Kelly Coffman anymore. I still think he is. He still has a ton of wrist and revs it hard.
Nothing compared to him pre resin. He really ripped the tar out of the ball to the point it was ridiculous.
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NJStroker

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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2007, 06:51:11 PM »
Wut about Michael Fagan, I would consider him a cranker.
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pate08

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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2007, 07:12:48 PM »
Fagan's swing is REALLY loose. His rev rate is around 500 rpms, but he uses very little effort with his swing. Fagan is probably a power stroker.

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Wut about Michael Fagan, I would consider him a cranker.

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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2007, 08:09:38 PM »
Wrist action wise...no one compares currently to Eugene McCune. It's unreal how he throws the ball, you have to watch him in person. He has some of the loudest strikes. The volume of his strikes is right up there with David Traber and the late Jimmy Keeth.
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NJStroker

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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #38 on: August 10, 2007, 10:03:30 PM »
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Fagan's swing is REALLY loose. His rev rate is around 500 rpms, but he uses very little effort with his swing. Fagan is probably a power stroker.

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Wut about Michael Fagan, I would consider him a cranker.

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Yea i guess so now that i think about it, he's like a super power tweener.
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JessN16

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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #39 on: August 11, 2007, 03:05:34 PM »
I just don't buy McCune as a cranker. I'm not saying he can't do it when he needs to, but every time I've seen him bowl his preferred shot is 9,000 miles per hour somewhere up the right half of the lane.

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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2007, 04:35:10 PM »
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The typical "cranker" doesnt exist on Tour today. Just because somebody has a high rev-rate, that doesnt make them a cranker. Todays sport is based on balance and leverage, not power and force. Even the highest rev-rate player on tour ( Robert ) generates a lot of leverage from his legs. Without a solid base under you, that high rev-rate wont get you anywhere !
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Reading all of these posts, I thought I was crazy until I read yours. I agree with your definition of cranker, or what a cranker is not. Most of these young power players today have that release that creates mega revs, but don't think they can be defined as crankers.
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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2007, 07:13:49 AM »
I guess the cranker still exists on tour if you look at just on rev rate alone, they just dont 'look' like a Vespi, Coffman, Spaulding or Palombi anymore. Remember straighter(but still powerful!!) guys like Voss and Pedersen didnt 'get on it' with reactives the same way they could with Urethane either.
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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2007, 10:11:24 AM »
The proper term should actually be "power player" now. The term "cranker" would be used to describe somebody that uses an excessive amount of force to deliver the bowling ball ( for example: Mark Roth, Bob Handley, Rudy Kasimakis ). If you run down the list of bowlers that you consider crankers, virtually none of them bowl with sheer force. Todays sport has evolved into timing, leverage and balance. More guys are cutting their rev-rates down than trying to increase them
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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2007, 10:41:47 AM »
A cranker in my book, is a player that use the elebow to stay longer under the ball and gain more revs. http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/kennmelvin/VCranker.Htm
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Re: PBA Crankers cant leave them out
« Reply #44 on: August 26, 2007, 09:08:58 AM »
Definition Of A Raw Power Cranker- Mark Roth most powerful bowler I ever witnessed throw a ball.
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