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strikecing

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PBA gets Attacked
« on: March 31, 2010, 05:49:37 PM »
Here in Indy there is a bowing radio show that can be heard on blogtalkradio.com.  Last week they got PBA player Dereck Sapp as special guest.  This just happen to be after the players meeting where next years "tour" was talked about.  This is great talk about the PBA and what they should be doing or ideas they need to do.  To get to the good stuff fast forward to the 18 min mark!!  This is when Dereck joins Joe Barton and Chris Curry on air and they start throwing bombs!  This has done some shaking and now Tom Clark himself will call into the show to talk about this episode!  The Thirteenth show plays every wednesday on Blogtalkradio. click the link below


http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the13thframe/2010/03/18/the-13th-frame-show

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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2010, 01:43:49 PM »
Derek made alot of accurate claims that the pba needs to work smarter on getting sponsors and getting money from anywhere they can. Full Tilt Poker and Ultimate Bet which are multi million dollar poker sites that are sponsoring bowlers by putting their logo on bowlers shirts so people want to invest money in the PBA just gotta go out and find it
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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2010, 03:13:03 PM »
Yea I think he maybe right! They are so worried about getting huge title sponser when the just need to go after anything they can get....
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ImakeA2srun

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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2010, 01:47:22 PM »
The PBA has no idea how to market itself.  The TV spots alone make me think the PBA is run by morons.   Why are the telecasts on on sundays during football season?  Why would you want to try and compete with football?  Plus the fact they were not even live!!   Why are there telecasts on during the biggest college basketball sunday of the year?  Why would you want to compete with the NCAA tourney?  Thats why the PBA ratings suck.
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TWOHAND834

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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2010, 02:05:31 PM »
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The PBA has no idea how to market itself.  The TV spots alone make me think the PBA is run by morons.   Why are the telecasts on on sundays during football season?  Why would you want to try and compete with football?  Plus the fact they were not even live!!   Why are there telecasts on during the biggest college basketball sunday of the year?  Why would you want to compete with the NCAA tourney?  Thats why the PBA ratings suck.


I almost have to disagree.  If the bowling fan really wants to watch the show, it wont matter when the show is televised.  Even if the show was televised during a time where there arent any "better" games on, doesnt necessarily mean the ratings will go up.  If it does, the increase would be pretty small.  Plus, with better technology, you can just TiVo anything to watch it later.
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2010, 02:21:12 PM »
The true bowling fan will always watch.  The purpose of marketing is to turn non fans on to bowling.  Wow, I guess the PBA isnt the only one who doesnt understand marketing.
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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2010, 03:29:24 PM »
No one cares????????????

Some of us house hacks wannabes that should be fired from our jobs for being on this website all day care!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2010, 04:08:07 PM »
TCP sighting?
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TWOHAND834

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« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2010, 04:30:42 PM »
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I TOTALLY disagree with the last two posts. In my opinion, that is one of the FIRST things I would have done is change either the telecast time or day to get it away from the NFL season. I WOULD watch bowling live if not for football, but football will trump bowling every time and I love watching the PBA shows.

If it doesnt matter then why do shows compete for ratings if you can just TIVO everything. Also, not everyone has a DVR. I know plenty of people that do not have one, especially the older crowd ( No offense to anyone older that has one ).

I do agree that turning non fans into fans is the objective, but to get fans you need to have exposure to the general public and being on the same time as football drastically reduces that exposure in my eyes. People will become fans by watching the shows and they cannot do that if they are tuned into football which is I believe probably in the top 5 programs to watch throughout the whole year.

How do you become a fan of any show? You watch it right? You gain initial interest either by word of mouth or just by catching it on TV when there might be nothing else on and giving it a chance. I can tell you right now that any show on during that time would suffer, regardless of genre ect. because the NFL on sundays is going to beat out pretty much any program you put up against it. Imagine if you took a really popular show like LOST or Heroes or American Idol and placed it in the PBA timeslot. How many people that have an interest in football ( which is quiet a bit ) would be watching that live over watching the NFL live? Not very many if you ask me.



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So when exactly do you televise it?  Over the Summer, you have MLB, so you go against the MLB Game of the week.  Fall, you have football.  Winter, there is hockey and basketball.  There is always going to be something on to compete against it.  Unfortunately, it becomes a pick your poison.  Which sport/sports do you want to go up against?  Or, do you keep it on Sundays and just pick a different time of year?
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Re: PBA gets Attacked
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2010, 04:37:28 PM »
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No one cares about the PBA any more except for ********** little ******* like yourselves who sit on a forum all day talking about what you would do if you owned the tour.

Reality Check!
You do not own it, and half of you ******* donkeys do not even help fund it. So you have NO RIGHT to talk.

The bowling world would be a much more intelligent place without you all.


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dechrist

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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2010, 05:35:37 PM »
Admin, please - PAE is a piece of work...
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kidlost2000

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« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2010, 05:51:08 PM »
If you want to find a time that doesn't compete with other major sports you can't.

You can try and work around the other sports. Sunday isn't a good idea. Saturday morning was the spot for years before being cast aside.

It would really throw the week off for a tour player, but thursday nights wouldn't be so bad. NFL doesn't have games till late in the season, and most of the college games on then are lower tear schools and games. Plus coming on in the evening like 7 or 8p would be much easier to catch then on a Sunday after noon or morning where people have church, family events and everything else imaginable to cram in on your two days off.

Plus with fantasy sports and everything else you don't want to go to work after missing something great in football and say "man did you see Walter Ray in the tenth frame yesterday?". Yes true bowlers will watch sometimes. Any more most of the people I talk with miss the show, or only catch a few minutes of it.

I really use to enjoy watching bowling. Any more I forget to record it and when I do see it I only watch for a few because the format always changes and it isn't enjoyable to watch.
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Re: PBA gets Attacked
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2010, 07:01:56 PM »
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So when exactly do you televise it?  Over the Summer, you have MLB, so you go against the MLB Game of the week.  Fall, you have football.  Winter, there is hockey and basketball.  There is always going to be something on to compete against it.  Unfortunately, it becomes a pick your poison.  Which sport/sports do you want to go up against?  Or, do you keep it on Sundays and just pick a different time of year?
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I would start the PBA season the week after the Superbowl and run through the 4th of July. Take a short break 6-7 weeks into the season to avoid the first two weekends of the NCAA tourney. Baseball really doesn't get interesting until September anyway, so I don't think that you have to worry too much about that conflict.
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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2010, 10:32:07 PM »
The pba needs a major overhaul but unless someone comes up with some major money and personel who know what they are doing i'm afraid we'll continue to see the same old same old.
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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2010, 09:33:55 AM »
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So when exactly do you televise it?  Over the Summer, you have MLB, so you go against the MLB Game of the week.  Fall, you have football.  Winter, there is hockey and basketball.  There is always going to be something on to compete against it.  Unfortunately, it becomes a pick your poison.  Which sport/sports do you want to go up against?  Or, do you keep it on Sundays and just pick a different time of year?
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If anyone out there is worried about the scores being too high, try duckpin!!

I would start the PBA season the week after the Superbowl and run through the 4th of July. Take a short break 6-7 weeks into the season to avoid the first two weekends of the NCAA tourney. Baseball really doesn't get interesting until September anyway, so I don't think that you have to worry too much about that conflict.


Yeah, if you started the season after the Superbowl you'd have nothing to compete against at all.
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