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PBA old and new
« on: November 25, 2008, 07:41:18 AM »
I think Earl Anthony, Dick Weber and some of the older guys are turning in their graves seeing what the PBA is doing. Making stupid decisiions on lane condition, Jason Belmonte's exemptions all of that crap.

It they say this is going to be a THS this week then that is what it should be nothing more or less.

Also Belmo's exemptions gimmie a break if he wants to bowl make him earn it. I really don't think he is any better than any of the rest of the bowlers out their as a matter of fact Belmo vs Barnes give me Barnes any day, Belmo Vs. WRW it would be WRW any day to.

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Re: PBA old and new
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2008, 05:00:25 PM »
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I think Earl Anthony, Dick Weber and some of the older guys are turning in their graves seeing what the PBA is doing. Making stupid decisiions on lane condition, Jason Belmonte's exemptions all of that crap.

It they say this is going to be a THS this week then that is what it should be nothing more or less.

Also Belmo's exemptions gimmie a break if he wants to bowl make him earn it. I really don't think he is any better than any of the rest of the bowlers out their as a matter of fact Belmo vs Barnes give me Barnes any day, Belmo Vs. WRW it would be WRW any day to.

Just my opinion on the matters at hand
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Agreed, I actually prefer watching ESPN classic with old PBA shows than the current ones.  Back then, the show was much more interesting to watch.  Now it looks like Rocky V over and over again.
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Re: PBA old and new
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2008, 05:19:16 PM »
i agree. with belmonte. i mean if i was a paying pba memeber and hes not earned the exemption then why is he getting it ?? i know id not be happy for sure!
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Re: PBA old and new
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2008, 09:57:11 PM »
this is the first year in a long time where i don't really look forward to pba telecasts like i used to. i don't like the direction they are going as an organization. this is a major reason i gave up my membership.

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Re: PBA old and new
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2008, 10:10:39 PM »
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I think Earl Anthony, Dick Weber and some of the older guys are turning in their graves seeing what the PBA is doing. Making stupid decisiions on lane condition, Jason Belmonte's exemptions all of that crap.

It they say this is going to be a THS this week then that is what it should be nothing more or less.

Also Belmo's exemptions gimmie a break if he wants to bowl make him earn it. I really don't think he is any better than any of the rest of the bowlers out their as a matter of fact Belmo vs Barnes give me Barnes any day, Belmo Vs. WRW it would be WRW any day to.

Just my opinion on the matters at hand
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Agreed, I actually prefer watching ESPN classic with old PBA shows than the current ones.  Back then, the show was much more interesting to watch.  Now it looks like Rocky V over and over again.
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Necro,

I would think you would be salivating at the thought of seeing a monster power player perhaps making the telecast, should he plow through the field, which he is definitely very capable of doing.

Why not give Belmo an exemption?  The guy is a worldwide phenomenon as far as bowling is concerned, and he has garnered the respect of the top PBA players.  So, if Walter Ray, Chris Barnes, et al, don't object to his exemption, why should we?  After all, they are the ones that will have to contend with his imminent opportunity at possible stardom here in the U.S.  

Should he be able to compete, dominate and win at this high level, I will point out that many here will then be singing praise instead of bemoaning his opportunity, which is nothing but envy and sour grapes.

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Re: PBA old and new
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2008, 10:19:14 PM »
Bowlingwolf,

I have talked with 2 different established exempt pros on this matter, and they say the same thing. He is plenty good enough to be on the PBA tour and he should be...but he should have to earn his way like everybody else!

Nevermind the PBA broke 1 of it's own rules in giving Belmo these exemptions!
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Re: PBA old and new
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2008, 08:23:56 AM »
You guys should all be hoping he makes he makes a show so people will watch instead of whining about him not bowling in the TQR.

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Re: PBA old and new
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2008, 10:05:42 AM »
The new shows suck. A prime example is that play by play nonsense after the first shot and you hear Marv Albert in the backround saying, 2-8-10... and the music in between shots. They should spend less time trying to make a lame sport "cool and hip" and more time producing a quality product. No wonder they're broke.

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Re: PBA old and new
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2008, 10:44:39 AM »
I'm 100% against Belmonte's exemptions but please tell me how are foreign bowlers realistically supposed to make the PBA tour? I miss foreign players on tour and now we have none. Mika doesn't count because he was bowling well during the start of the exempt tour and lives in Michigan anyways.

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Re: PBA old and new
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2008, 01:28:22 PM »
dont like it? suck it! cuz PBA isnt going to listen to u

all of that crap? what happens if it makes it more interesting? u gonna suck it back?

dont like it, turn off ur tv

and for those with the american pride, talkin crap about foreigners, i would pay to see ur faces when some foreigner defeat ur local pros
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Re: PBA old and new
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2008, 01:54:15 PM »
What a Joke The tour was much better without exemptions. I also am against the free exemption 100% Everyone else has to earn it he should too. I think the tour would be better without exemptions. I think their would be more bowlers and we wouldn't lose bowlers like Brian Voss and many other well known names. Just my 2 cents
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Re: PBA old and new
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2008, 09:06:07 AM »
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No exemptions means 162 in the field like it used to be, and more prize money. Run your PTQ and allow 10-15 whatever and let them join the field for 150-175 players. Men and Women.

I like bowling to have class and intelligence. I don't like the way it is going. The "new" PBA turned me off with the skills challenge when they could have the old stepladder finals and have 4 matches.

The PBA's, and USBC's for that matter, believes bowling should be an entertainment product, and I don't think it should. The PBA should run like the PGA. Dignity, grace, and professionalism.

If you want entertainment, watch the WWE, RAW, NFL, NHL, NBA. Contact sports are for entertainment and sanctioned war if you will. NASCAR, MLS, ATP Tennis,  and MLB are somewhere in between. (I always like the psychology in the pitching game.)

Bowling, Golf, Billiards are for enjoying the game for shot making and mental decision making.

No holds barred contact sports are for letting out aggression and sanctioned war.
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Re: PBA old and new
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2008, 03:33:05 PM »
I have no issue with the commissioner's exemption. The first couple of years they had it, they gave one out every tournament - once to a baseball player, and several times to people completely undeserving of it.

A couple of years ago CDB got one. I thought that was stretching it a bit...

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Re: PBA old and new
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2008, 02:20:45 PM »
Your referring to John Burkett, former Ranger pitcher. That was ridiculous. How many PBA titles did he win? The same amount as Belmonte which is 0. How many PBA titles did Carlyn Dorin Ballard win? Again, 0. Yet when the PBA came to Dallas area they never considered players like Ron Williams Jr., Robert Lawrence or Mark Williams. People that actually have credentials in the PBA.

There should be a requirement for these free exemptions such as having to win a PBA title in the past.

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Re: PBA old and new
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2008, 03:10:29 PM »
There is a requirement, you have to get the approval of the commissioner