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Title: PBA on TV - 1/1/2012
Post by: bowlinmoe on January 01, 2012, 12:57:34 AM
Anyone know who is on today's show at 1:00 PM EST?
Thanks.
Title: Re: PBA on TV - 1/1/2012
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on January 01, 2012, 09:02:28 AM
Sean Rash, Pete Weber, Ryan Ciminelli, and Nathan Bohr.
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Title: Re: PBA on TV - 1/1/2012
Post by: stc067 on January 01, 2012, 01:26:54 PM
Just finished watching the show, I thought it was much more enjoyable this week.It's always more interesting when you have combustable personalities like Weber and Rash.
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Title: Re: PBA on TV - 1/1/2012
Post by: Nails on January 01, 2012, 01:51:38 PM
Two things I thought were interesting.
One: Rash grabbed his plastic water bottle and took a drink during the first match's 10th frame while Weber was on the approach getting ready to deliver his shot. Obviously there was no crinkle, but with all the drama lately with Rash/Belmo, you'd think he'd be extra careful not to even potentially make a noise.
Two: Is there any bowler in the game who gets better count on bad balls than Rash? His nose shots get 9, his Brooklyns seem to carry when they matter most (like part of a turkey), and his terrible shots like his first in the 10th of the last match actually strike. His mechanics looked much more in control than his recent past, but he still gets over amped and throws it bad when he need it most.
Telling it like it is.
Title: Re: PBA on TV - 1/1/2012
Post by: Gene J Kanak on January 01, 2012, 05:36:14 PM
One of the benefits of being a high-rev player is pin action. Rash's first ball in the 10th was super light, but his ball has so much power, it gives him a chance to splash pins around. That was the break he needed, and he got it. Anyone who bowls for any length of time knows that breaks tend to even out over time. I have to say, I love PDW, but I didn't really think he needed to throw in that "at least hit the pocket when you need it" line. All that's going to do is keep him saddled with that "black hat," bad boy image they said he wants to shed.
Title: Re: PBA on TV - 1/1/2012
Post by: Nails on January 01, 2012, 05:50:44 PM
It may have been frustration on Pete's part, but they mentioned that he and Sean are good friends off the lanes. He might have just been giving him a hard time. After the commercial they showed a much more pleasant, and honest looking, congratulatory hand shake.
I understand the high rev high speed stuff as far as pin action goes, but the first ball in the 10th wasn't even trying to read the lane. If a guy gets a late slow messenger, or trips out a 4-9 it's one thing, but to lose to 2 really poor shots has to hurt. Everyone knows that the breaks even out over time, but I've said things like that (under my breath) when I've lost to poor performances. He looked kind of like he said it in jest, hopefully that is the case.
Telling it like it is.
Title: Re: PBA on TV - 1/1/2012
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on January 01, 2012, 06:52:27 PM
And before we crown Rash as the PBA's luckiest player, let's not forget he left a stone 9-pin to lose $45,000 about a month ago to Tommy Jones in the All-In showdown.
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Title: Re: PBA on TV - 1/1/2012
Post by: JOE FALCO on January 01, 2012, 06:58:38 PM
I had company today and missed the show (did not tape it) .. just checked PBA site looking for a rebroadcast .. didn't find any info on it .. does anyone know if today's show will be on TV again??
Title: Re: PBA on TV - 1/1/2012
Post by: Goof1073 on January 01, 2012, 07:19:50 PM
While not the best...it's already on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiyAgbkxV30
I'm sure a more quality version will be up tomorrow.
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Title: Re: PBA on TV - 1/1/2012
Post by: Nails on January 01, 2012, 07:34:34 PM
Was that event televised? I don't remember seeing it. My DVR is set to record anything bowling related. Maybe I'll have to look on Youtube to see if it's there.
BTW, I wasn't trying to rag on Rash. Like I said everyone gets breaks, good and bad, on good and bad shots. It just seems like when he throws one really bad he kind of gets bailed out when it can really help him. The other guy that had that kind of "luck" was Parker Bohn. He didn't throw many bad, but I remember him throwing a few 3-7-9's that ended up striking. A good break would be getting the 9 to fall leaving a make able split, a really good break would be getting the 7 to fall leaving a not very hard spare. Collapsing the whole thing for a strike...
Telling it like it is.
Title: Re: PBA on TV - 1/1/2012
Post by: batbowler on January 01, 2012, 08:46:57 PM
I used my dvr and it recorded it! I liked the comment that Rob made about Nathan Bohr being a Storm staffer and they listed an Ebonite 250k as one of his balls he was using and he used a black/silver Brunswick Slingshot for spares!!!
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Title: Re: PBA on TV - 1/1/2012
Post by: JOE FALCO on January 01, 2012, 08:48:12 PM
GOOF.. Thanks a million .. watched every minute of it .. great bowling!!!
Title: Re: PBA on TV - 1/1/2012
Post by: LuckyLefty on January 02, 2012, 07:10:42 AM
I thought Pete looked great, really thought he got out of sync with something on his shoes for a few frames in the last game.
Without that sticking happening they were all toast. The legs go first, do you think his kneebend is getting shallower? His conditioning for that condition?
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Title: Re: PBA on TV - 1/1/2012
Post by: JOE FALCO on January 02, 2012, 08:18:54 AM
Lucky .. agree with you .. thought Weber was going great to the last game .. I thought his ball reaction changed more then a footing problem .. once he lined up with the new ball he was on his way!
So much talk about adjusting the shot .. seems Weber (a successful Pro for many years) went for a ball change .. that makes more sense to me!!
Title: Re: PBA on TV - 1/1/2012
Post by: Dave81644 on January 02, 2012, 10:04:49 AM
ALL in shootout
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE7EBdORC_4
you have to fast forward to about 9:15 before it starts
Title: Re: PBA on TV - 1/1/2012
Post by: Nails on January 02, 2012, 11:40:13 AM
Thanks, Dave, I'll check it out.
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Title: Re: PBA on TV - 1/1/2012
Post by: ccrider on January 02, 2012, 01:11:10 PM
Pete's response was appropriate. Pete bowled well enough to win. Sometimes you just don't get the breaks or your opponent does. Pete just stated what was painfully obvious.
Weber, Rash and Cimanelli all bowled impressively. Rash had the best look and carry.
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Title: Re: PBA on TV - 1/1/2012
Post by: ccrider on January 02, 2012, 01:11:14 PM
Pete's response was appropriate. Pete bowled well enough to win. Sometimes you just don't get the breaks or your opponent does. Pete just stated what was painfully obvious.
Weber, Rash and Cimanelli all bowled impressively. Rash had the best look and carry.
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Title: Re: PBA on TV - 1/1/2012
Post by: on January 02, 2012, 01:35:36 PM
It was obvious, but any bowler who doesn't think he gets his share of good breaks suffers from short term memory loss. When Pete lost his reaction temporarily, did he leave the "big 4" or some other un-makeable split? No.
I am not just talking about Pete, either. Any of us who bowls enough needs to realize that good and bad breaks happen to ALL of us. The difference between a horrendous split and a realistic spare shot is sometimes one board, or less than an inch from 60 feet away.
PDW still has more talent than many of the young guns on tour, even at age 49. Perhaps he's trying to re-gain respect after a tough year last year. I say, Pete, quit the crotch chopping and "flexing" and let your game speak for itself. It really is good enough, in my opinion.
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Edited by notclay on 1/2/2012 at 2:37 PM
Title: Re: PBA on TV - 1/1/2012
Post by: Sunshine n Lollipops on January 02, 2012, 04:10:49 PM
Pretty sure that Weber could say that to Rash because they are buddies. At least that is what Rash intimated in his post-win interview and Pedersen seconded it.
Show had a different look to it which was a lot better than first weeks. Not that happy with the "shooting fish in a barrel" strike percentage but you had four different style bowlers which was cool.
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Title: Re: PBA on TV - 1/1/2012
Post by: JOE FALCO on January 02, 2012, 09:09:43 PM
Dave ... Thanks for the SHOOT OUT file.. great bowling but I not terrible happy with the coverage .. I don't think they showed the scores often enough .. also think during the second game they should be showing the progressive totals as the game went on .. great bowling though .. Thanks ..
Title: Re: PBA on TV - 1/1/2012
Post by: tburky on January 03, 2012, 04:27:00 AM
i believe bohr is an independent
Title: Re: PBA on TV - 1/1/2012
Post by: Nails on January 04, 2012, 08:57:46 AM
Finally watched it. Thanks again Dave.
My point still stands though. I said Rash got good breaks on the really bad balls. In the final game Rash did leave a 9 when he needed it. So what? Jones left a 4-9 and a 4 pin on balls that looked pretty darn similar. Those are still good shots, maybe just a bit inside or slow or hit the ball just a touch too much. When Jones missed the ball at the bottom of his swing in the 3rd? frame, he left a 2-4-8-10. That's getting the count you'd expect on a bad delivery. Rash got a strike on the TV match on a ball basically as bad.
Rash actually threw it really good on the All In special. Normally when the pressure is on he rushes his delivery and his mechanics go to hell. He gets off balance and falls off the shot. Like he did on TV during the 10th frame. You see it a little as time went on during the All In show when he shot spares. He always throws hard at them, but he gets more and more off balance as the show progressed. Anyway, he looks like the coaching sessions he's been getting look like they're paying off. Once he keeps his tempo the same shot after shot, he's going to be really dangerous again.
Telling it like it is.
Title: Re: PBA on TV - 1/1/2012
Post by: fishbowler on January 04, 2012, 01:01:25 PM
Luck in bowling??? tell me it isn't so...
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