Author Topic: wrw's equipment (Read 1993 times)

stopncrank · « **on:** March 19, 2006, 11:59:28 AM »

man where do i start. let me start by saying that i like wrw a great deal. i think what he has accomplished is unreal for our time. let me also say from the start that he could whip my a-- any time any where. but it is difficult to watch what is happening to him for me! whether he admits it or not, i think it's getting to him. how could it not? but my point is, do any of you think that the morich equipment puts him at a disadvantage for the particular lines he likes to play? i can't understand why he doesn't use brunswick. he won the majority of his titles with big b. is it pride in not using big b? i know he has said that he won't sign with any company because he says they won't pay him what he thinks he's worth. doesn't that sound a little big headed to you guys? don't get me wrong, wrw is a great bowler and all, but how much does he think he's worth? it seems to me that ball staffers generally have an advantage by having ball reps at the disposal. don't you think he may match up better with certain companys besides morich? what are your thoughts?
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stanski · « **Reply #1 on:** March 19, 2006, 08:07:48 PM »

You saw him for one game on two seperate occasions... anything can happen in one game, its not a good indicator of how he has been bowling. Just look at his average and see how well whatever he's been doing has worked (just not doing well in the current format).
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StormRoto · « **Reply #2 on:** March 19, 2006, 08:16:04 PM »

The morich equipment does not put him a disadvantage at all. I mean it did get him to 2 shows since he primarily used Morich. He made 1 bad shot today and it cost him against Duke. Morich balls do roll different than other companies. When he totally figures them out, watch out.

stopncrank · « **Reply #3 on:** March 19, 2006, 08:18:17 PM »

my purpose in posting was to compare how he matches up now with morich as opposed to when he was on tv 6-8 times a year with brunswick. do you really think he's been bowling up to his standards? i think not. even rick benoit on brunswick insiders, as well as chris schemmler on stormbowling.com said on two seperate occasions that untill he(wrw) quits trying to use strong equipment on the outside of the lane, he won't win again. it seems to me he doesn't have quite the margin for error that he used too. don't know if the weight loss is bothering him either.
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StormRoto · « **Reply #4 on:** March 19, 2006, 08:28:37 PM »

I agree with the Oil patterns that they are using on tour these days, you just cant use strong bowling balls outside all the time like when he was so dominant in years past. His margin of error is less when he trys to play the outside. We watched the Telecast with Mo Pinel he agreed that the layout on the Awesome Flip was too strong of a reaction to play outside where he was wanting to play.

mab · « **Reply #5 on:** March 19, 2006, 08:30:22 PM »

I do not believe that to a pro bowler that what equipment they throw makes a whole lot of difference they are just that good. And when you have the skills they have you can get any ball to react as you want it to. I believe that it is what the individuals mind set is and how they react to the mental process that they go thru week in and week out, it has got to be incredibly exhausting working your way thru the pack each week to make a T.V. telecast and then add that pressure. I would not even be able to relate to that, we the fans expect way to much of these people and that is exactly what they are people. Nobody is perfect nor can you win every time out. WRW and ND are the best bowlres of our generation thier accomplishments speak for themselfs. And we are very fortunate to have been able to witness it happen.
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hallofamer · « **Reply #6 on:** March 19, 2006, 08:32:44 PM »

In my opinion it's not the equipment as much as the reaction he's playing. Prior to using the Morich balls WRW was using Track, Exception primarily. He's played the same reaction at least the last 8 times he's been on TV, straight up the lane, a fairly qiuck, short arc phase and roll out. With this reaction there is little to no room for error. Miss with speed, lift, loft or target, especially in, and no good. I've said this to myself every one of the last few shows. Duke played same line with a softer hand and different layout and had some room for error. On TV WRW looks like he can only play one shot which I know isn't true. I hate to see it 'cause he's one of my favorites and was always much more versatile. Even WRW can't be perfect every time.

stopncrank · « **Reply #7 on:** March 19, 2006, 08:36:58 PM »

my intent is not to knock morich equipment. they make high quality equipment. mo pinel is one of if not the most knowlegable people in our sport. i have not thrown any morich stuff. what i can say is everyone i've seen throw morich gets a VERY strong reaction. almost like some of the old hammers(ha ha!) do you think he uses morich because they have one of the highest payouts for non-staffers? what if he used storm for example? what about hammer? he won quite a bit with them when he left big b.
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stanski · « **Reply #8 on:** March 19, 2006, 10:23:57 PM »

http://pba.com/stats/ytdstats.asp?Tour=1&Stype=Average

4th in average ain't too shabby when you've only made 2 shows. Especially considering tommy jones is 6th.
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LuckyLefty · « **Reply #9 on:** March 19, 2006, 10:43:52 PM »

I remember a few years ago he was looking awesome with the Icon and Icon2.

Then for a while he looked awesome and was winning and unstoppable with teh Phenom Unleashed show after show!

Clearly Brunswick is not the only thing he has won with!

REgards,

Lukcylefty
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LuckyLefty · « **Reply #10 on:** March 20, 2006, 07:17:09 AM »

After watching the rerun I can just say...he looked almost human!!

Too many shots left of his breakpoint...down lane!

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clintdaley · « **Reply #11 on:** March 20, 2006, 11:48:59 AM »

This is unusual for me to say...however, here we go.

What I really think needs said is how last year everyone was on his back for switching to Track after throwing mainly MoRich during the week and then losing on the show and how he may have won or had a better chance to if he would have stuck with what he had thrown.....a year later, he sticks with what he was using, and no better of a result yet....

And...while on the subject, where is everyone who bashed Track again for Scroggins performance and how he should have stuck with Brunswick....I think yesterday proved it was the bowler, not the equipment. I saw one of his patented washouts with the Scorchin on the left lane if I remember right...same exact thing he did with the Delta and Robo in his hands...people said how he does not match with Track, etc...well...does he not match with Brunswick now? NOPE....he just has problems when the lights come on.....

Moral of the story.......I don't bash anyones stuff as there is surely a matchup with something with the right drill in the correct hands...look how many people bash Lane 1 for Rudy....but Chris L threw them good yesterday and ok the first time he was on TV earlier this year....its just a matter of getting that ball in your hands at the right time and make the shots with it!

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djones · « **Reply #12 on:** March 20, 2006, 02:46:44 PM »

First off, I would not agree that WRW won the majority of his titles using Brunswick. I would guess that he used Ebonite for more of his wins than any brand since he was under contract to them from the beginning through mid-1994 (which includes his best year of 1993). That being said, I have noticed one thing about WRW, it was well known that he did not renew his contract with Ebonite in 1994 due to him wanting more $ than what E was willing to shell out. Then later when he was under contract to Brunswick, Big B basically dropped him in a financial move. I do not think that he has used either Ebonite or Brunswick since either of these happenings. I would think that Brunswick equipment would fit his game well, but I wonder if he carries a grudge and refused to use either of these manufacturers equipment.

Now, think about this, I would guess that over the past 5-6 years, more PBA titles have been won with Ebonite and Brunswick balls than the rest combined.

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djones · « **Reply #13 on:** March 20, 2006, 02:59:07 PM »

One other thing about WRW, this current slump he is in does not even come close to the troubles he had between 1988-1992. He was BOY in 1986 and had a very good year in 1987. Starting in 1988, he was in TV many times, including several that he was tournament leader. This includes leading the US Open one year and the TOC another. His loss to Del Ballard in the TOC was heartbreaking as he had lead the tournament going into the finals by several hundred pins. He did not win one title on TV during this period. (If memory serves me right, I think he won the Japan Cup in 1992, but that was not on TV.) He broke out with 7 titles in 1993.

Look at it this way, WRW was the dominate bowler in the world for approximately 10-12 years starting in 1993. Not a bad resume, if I may say so.

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